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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:29 PM

MONGOOSE: I know that everyone has thier own ideas with regards to ensuring a round shaft stays round when removing seams. When looking at your photo I would think of cutting the round shaft where it meets the flaired part that blends into the hull. From there I would drill a hole in the flaired part not too deep, perhaps 1mm and then use either brass or alimunim rod for the actual shaft. As long as you match up the diameter of the brass to the plastic it should work perfect and stay in true round, fit through any shaft guides, and into the back of the prop. I know Hobby Lobby has them as do many on-line stores. Heck, even many hardware stores, Lowes, or Home Depot may carry them (?).

If you are set on using the kits plastic shafts, all of the above are good ideas.

PS: Thanks Scott, Steve, and others for viewing my updates and providing the constructive remarks. 

Ben

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:30 PM

TheMongoose
Any good lessons learned for this one?

I would tackle that with an exacto blade in a scraping motion and follow it up as needed with some sand paper folder over and used like a file. An much patience.

And your shading looks amazing. I know the camera only pics up parts of it, so with the naked eye it would be even better.

 

BK

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:39 PM

Brandon: Ohhhh, that looks really good!!!

Mongoose: It looks great to me! And kudos, that much masking and I would have screwed something up somewhere. As to the props can you hold a piece of sandpaper between your fingers to get the right curve to it as you sand?

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:31 PM

Light and angle make a huge difference.  Looks great.  Interesting technique you figured out.  Really impressed.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:28 PM

Well I have to say I've really had trouble getting a picture that shows what this technique really looks like. The iPhone just isn't doing it, even using the app I have to adjust white balance and shutter speed it doesn't pick up the shades of gray well. That said, here is how it has turned out. In person it looks terrific. Not overdone, just shadowed so when you look at it you want to look closer to see what's drawing your eye to it.

Here's the preshading in base color +20% white.

This is probably the best two to show finished look

Then some others.

I think this set is cool. While trying to show highlights of shading I used the 'negative' edit option. This really shows the shading that is done well I think.

And finally this one looks pretty good when you blow it up. In the middle I toned down the preshading because on the real ship the corrosion and staining on the weld lines did not look as pronounced.

As the build continues I'll try to get some better shots. I have all the weathering to do yet so there's another set coming.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:33 PM

I generally will scrape the heavy mold seam with a #11 blade, then a few swipes with a sanding stick, around a 240 grit or medium then a fine.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 4:35 PM

Can you guys give me some help with these shafts? I'm trying to get rid of the flassh without making them square...I stopped because even trying to use the flexifile isn't doing it. Holding it in my hand I can't seem to get enough curve to the sandpaper to do anything but put a flat spot on it. Any good lessons learned for this one?

Chris

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 4:27 PM

WoW love the painted deck. The lines look really crisp. BK it's definitely worth the time to do isn't it! 

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:42 PM

Small update. I have most of the paint work completed. I have had to handpaint some of the smaller bits, but at 18-24 inches away you can't tell. Everything you see in the pic is painted, no decals. I have yet to apply any of those. The deck was a pain to mask and paint, but it looks the part now.

BK

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 1:15 PM

modelcrazy

Wow Scott, nice progress there. I had to look close at both pictures to notice a difference.

 

Steve, thanks,

Hard to tell if these old battlewagons are coming or going.  I had to, on a couple of times, double check which direction I had the bow pointed in fear of placing something on backwards.

 

Gam, thanks man.

 

Chris, the Enterprise is looking fantastic.  

Ben, you look like you are having a lot of fun with those boat kits. They look great. 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:42 AM

That's some sharp work Scott! Yes

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:08 AM

Wow Scott, nice progress there. I had to look close at both pictures to notice a difference.

Steve

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:45 AM

I quick update on the Kansas. All the resin and brass parts are on, now to start rigging.  The size of this model is soo deceiving. 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:32 AM

Mongoose: That is friggin incredible!!! 

Steve: But a ship is generally bigger than a tank or a car! So more work and more time invested! Wink 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:27 AM

Gam, that's waht I feel like building armor or cars.

Chris, I'm going to have to try that.

Ben, it's our pleasure to watch.

Steve

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:25 PM

They are really nice! I am eager to see how they look upon completion.....

Good work my friend.....

And thank you everyone for looking at my work and your motivating remarks.

v/r,

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 4:47 PM

Hey I got all the horizontal lines done today. It's nice to be able to do something like this over lunch rather than just ditting in a cafeteria or at Wendys.

These bow shots give a good perspective on how it looks.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:30 AM

Ben: WOW! Those launches look incredible!

 Mongoose: Good thinking on those hawseholes- they look just like the photo. 

 

And sorry, I just feel like a little league player in a room full of professional athletes... 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:00 AM

"the life ring is a supper nice touch, and painting it Yes.....what did you use, an 0/15 brush?"
Holy crap I didn't even see that. Stupendous detail! Bow Down you are at one with the PE sir.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 8:03 AM

Awesome job guys and thanks for the complements.

Chris, that's a great idea that I wouldn't have though of. I probably would have tried to drill a piece of sprue and ended up applying filler Confused

Gam, don't worry about it. That's what we are here for. You think I do a perfect job? I just know how to take pictures and hide the boo boo's.

GH, I hope you don't give up on the PE, I was looking forward to seeing it as I was seriously considering getting one of those monsters and give it to our local museum.

Ben, I looks like you did a great job on your American flaged ships, which pic do you want on the wall?
Seriously, those little guys are builds in themselves. They must have taken what, a couple of days? I was feeling your pain discribing the railing. I could just see myself tring to get them on with a tiny drop of glue on the legs, the glue getting on the tweezers, then on my fingers, then destroying the rails getting them off both. Eventually saying "no one's going to notice anyway Angry"
My problem is once I get everything just right, I'll ruin it when I move it or try to install it. the life ring is a supper nice touch, and painting it Yes.....what did you use, an 0/15 brush?

Steve

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 7:23 AM

DRUMS01 those are gonna show well on the big ship! Feels good to finish them up as well I bet Big Smile

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Monday, April 20, 2020 11:41 PM

Chris and Steve; I think you have already heard this, but your builds are turing out beautiful. Great build, paint, and PE work.....

Captains motor launch , part # 2.....

Taking my checklist from the previous message, I had already added the wood inner floor, removed the back of the aft cabin and replaced it with shaped PE, added the PE boat deck to the rear, and added a PE top vent to the front. Now that the base paint is on the little boats, I'm having a go at the little parts.

CHECK - add a teakwood inner floor to the boat

CHECK - remove the back half of the aft cabin and replace it with PE

CHECK - add the PE boat deck to the rear

CHECK - add a PE vent over the fore cabin

CHECK - paint NG5 side hull, black bottom, tan deck, white top and interior.

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Here is what is left for the little boats as identified on the Eduard PE instructions:

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- add PE boat deck hand rails to the bow and stern. The bows hand rails were difficult to remove from the PE tree as well as trim any burs simply because of how small and thin they are. They also proved to be a challenge to add to the boat as they have a very small contact point with very little glue. It took several attempts but they finally are posted to each bows port and starboard side. The rear hand rail is suppose to sit on the rear deck but must be bent to a smooth arc before gluing. These suffered the same fate as the front rails due to size but also were difficult to bent into the arc without distorting the little fragile legs. I am very happy that Eduard provides extra, but after several attempts to attach without over gluing, they have managed to stay on the boats.

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- add PE hand rails to top of cabin. This was perhaps the most difficult part of the additions once again due to there size. Eduard also gives you several extras of these and I needed them (several lost because they are so small). None of these went on at the first attempt and only a few on the second try. I could only add super glue to the front and rear leg because I had to use the center one while holding it with tweezers. Because the legs are so short, it is easy to apply too much glue and obscure the open area between the boat and the hand rail. I was lucky and got them attached without any major accident. Three had to be reapplied after they came off while adding the portholes. 

- add PE port holes to cabins. The little rings provided by Eduard are too small you have difficulty finding them on the cutting mat once they are removed from the PE tree. Only by shining a bright light at an angle across the table could I locate several of them. Cutting the nips from these are almost impossible to take your time when removing them from the PE tree. To add them to the cabins I used a small fine wire, dipped the tip in glue, added a micro dot to the cabin, used tweezers to place the port hole as level and straight in a line as possible. Once they dried I added a black dot to the center port hole glass for contrast. I am please with how they turned out. 

- add rope and life rings fore and aft (scratch). Well the life ring is not exactly from scratch but from spare PE. They were painted on the PE tree then removed and added, afterwards touched up with paint. I have not found a way to add any rope that would look proper in scale. 

- add PE rudder. The PE rudders went on without any complaint or hitch.

- add PE ships wheel (from spare parts). Once again, I found some extra small PE that looks very much like a ships wheel and added them to the left rear of the front cabin in the same manner as I added the port holes.

- possible other items (lights, horn, slat drivers water deflector, etc. from scratch). Looking at the Arizona's motor launch I saw that it is slightly different than the USS Mississippi's. One thing I found was an access door is at the right rear of the front cabin, so I painted one there. I also see a horn type vent to the left front of the forward cabin. I bent some wire, drilled a micro hole and added the wire to replicate the vent. 

Overall, I am please with these motor launches as assembled, but I may try a couple other things still. Here they are up to this point (they may be done other than light weathering or shading):

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The size of the boats in this last image is almost exactly the size of the actual model boats:

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It took far longer than I thought it would for these four little boogers. Now I'm looking forward in making oars for the open life boats.... till then.  :cheers2: 

Ben

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, April 20, 2020 8:54 PM

Wow Chris, that is one epic scale you have going there. I want to do one like that of the Mighty Mo, but I don't have the room. I'll get there someday. Nice work with the paint, it looks super good.

Steve, you make that PE work look like it's second nature. Very nice.

BK

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, April 20, 2020 8:21 PM

Gamera

Mongoose: That is friggin' EPIC!!! I am in love! 

Steve: That PE ain't none too shabby either! 

 

I got a little done on my LCT over the weekend but I'm almost embaressed to post it considering what you guys and Ben have been doing... 

 

gamera don't be! 4 years ago i was assembling parts with the ejector pin marks still on them in blatantly visible locations as I just confirmed on this Enterprise build. This forum, especially the GB's where we all share so easily, makes us better modelers!

 

Got disgusted with my attempts on the Gato PE and set it aside for now.  May just go back to kit stuff

Nooooooo goldhammer I need you to set me up for the one I have in the stash! Boo Hoo

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, April 20, 2020 7:16 PM

Nice little trick I'm filing away.  Could be useful elsewhere too.

Great work with the paint and PE guys.

 

Got disgusted with my attempts on the Gato PE and set it aside for now.  May just go back to kit stuff

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, April 20, 2020 4:01 PM

Here's a cool trick you may find handy for something on your models someday. Hope you find it as neat as I did. 

Trying to make the hawsehole surrounds for the front of the BigE since Tamiya for some odd reason didn't put these major items on the model.

I 1st melted the top of some styrene tube so that it curled over

Then I cut it just below the lip and squished it in to make it oval. It takes 3 pieces to make 2 hawsehole surrounds Confused

And the finished product!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 20, 2020 3:14 PM

Thanks guys,

Chris the cables are styrene

Joe, the guns are from the kit.

Steve

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, April 20, 2020 1:43 PM

modelcrazy

Here's some of the PE work I got done on the NC.

The floatplane crane and 5 of the 15 quad mounts.

I'm also working on the cats, small boat cranes and the other 10 quads. Then on the the masts and radars and gun directors.

 

I almost missed your beautiful PE work there Steve. Exquisite work.

Are the 40mm barrels the kit supplied ones mounted to the PE or are they AM also?

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 20, 2020 12:07 PM

Mongoose: That is friggin' EPIC!!! I am in love! 

Steve: That PE ain't none too shabby either! 

 

I got a little done on my LCT over the weekend but I'm almost embaressed to post it considering what you guys and Ben have been doing... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, April 20, 2020 11:25 AM

MC those look great. Do you use thread or fine styrene rod for the crane wires?

Joe thanks a bunch!

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