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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, December 15, 2019 1:42 AM

Nice paint work on the NC hull. Water on the Spruance coming along nicely.

 

What has BK in a knot is that there aren't any slots in the bottom of the waterline hull to fit in the tabs on the full hull bottom, hence my suggestion of removing them to eliminate the gap between.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, December 15, 2019 1:22 AM

Yes, GH is correct, it can be built either as a full hull or waterline. The second to last picture looks like you installed the waterline, which would be painted black for the boot top, the black line just above the red anti-fouling paint.

OK the Spruance. The second coat has been applied, now to let it dry for a few days.

Next, the NC. I painted the hull camo and will be installing the deck.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, December 15, 2019 12:36 AM

Judging by the box art, the dark gray halves shown are the hanger deck sides.  If so, then for a full hull you would probably have to cut the tabs off the bottom hull and glue in segments, checking alignment as you go.

This after another look at the pics.

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, December 14, 2019 11:18 PM

That makes sense. The instructions make no mention of building it either way. They show the assembly all as one piece. Looks like I may be doing a water line version now. Rutroh.

BK

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, December 14, 2019 6:32 PM

It can be done as either full hull or waterline.  In the next last pic is the bottom of the hull halves a separate piece?.  If so, you probably would have to leave it off, then put the bottom hull on using the locator tabs for the full hull version.

 

If going full hull, figure out if you are going to mount on pedestals and base.  If so you might want to glue a couple of pieces of wood where your mounts will be for screw anchors before you close up the hull.

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, December 14, 2019 1:03 PM

Ok, gents. Here is my kit. I am already having issues. I will need your ship building expertise on this one, as its my first one.

This is a 1/700 Peleliu by Dragon. I am not impressed thus far. The pin marks, sink marks and standing ejector pins is hideous. I'll have some work ahead of me just fixing that.

Here is where my problem lies. Once I got the hull halves together I find that there are pins on the lower hull that don't go to anything, and I do have it togther correctly. As you can see by the pics this ship would not float. What are these here for? And it appears I just need to remove them to install the hull. Is this something common? I'm a tad puzzled by this.

BK

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, December 14, 2019 1:01 PM

modelcrazy

The next step was to add acrylic gel and wet paper strips. Once this is dry I will work the styrofoam down some to flatten it and add a second coat of gel. The second coat will smooth it out some.

 

 

can't help myself...is that an icebreaker? Big Smile

In the pattern: A 23-Window MicroBus and an F-100 SuperSabre (foiled)!

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, December 13, 2019 11:30 PM

this so good steve , will be saving this thread .

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, December 13, 2019 11:24 PM

The next step was to add acrylic gel and wet paper strips. Once this is dry I will work the styrofoam down some to flatten it and add a second coat of gel. The second coat will smooth it out some.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 13, 2019 9:57 AM

[quote user="modelcrazy"]

 

 
Gamera
Hmmm, my sister's Jack Russell is so fat I'm
modelcrazy

 

 
Gamera
Hmmm, my sister's Jack Russell is so fat I'm surprised he doesn't have a bunch of health issues...

 

LOL, Jack Russel.

Just giving some jaz Gam, Jacks are cool dogs.

 

Oh is it Russel with one L? I think I've spelled it both ways... Sad

He is pretty cool. Their Boston Terrier is a headcase though, he's got mental issues... Dunce

 

Edit: Screwed up the formating somehow- oh well it's readable... Stick out tongue

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, December 13, 2019 9:52 AM

Gamera
Hmmm, my sister's Jack Russell is so fat I'm surprised he doesn't have a bunch of health issues...

LOL, Jack Russel.

Just giving some jaz Gam, Jacks are cool dogs.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 13, 2019 9:40 AM

Oh that looks neat. Looking forward to seeing how the shading works on the NC and more on how you do the bow wave on the Spruance.

 

Hmmm, my sister's Jack Russell is so fat I'm surprised he doesn't have a bunch of health issues... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, December 13, 2019 9:25 AM

I'm amazed that Labs, and others, have this issue. I have never heard of it before and I've had 3 Labs in the past Huh? The lady who watches our dogs said her Lab has had surgery for both her ACL's. 

On the NC, I took a pic of the hull after spraying the black. On to the greys. ,

On the Spruance, after the glue has dried on the styrofoam pieces, it's now ready for the paper strips and clear plastic for the bow splash.

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, December 12, 2019 11:06 AM

My lab is always overweight and the vet said that Labs tend to get acl injuries alot and his weight doesnt help. Still he loves to always play and is very spry and agile for his size. I think he thinks he's a world class athelete. It's funny that Sun Valley would be cheaper than Boise given the folks that live up there.

BK

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:35 AM

Speaking of dogs BK, my new boy, about a 1/1/2 old black Lab/Plott Hound looking fella, tore his ACL! We are going to be taking him to Sunvalley for surgery on Christmas Eve where the price is about $2000 less than here in the valley. Poor guy, he's just a knucklehead and still doesn't realize that he's hurt and wants to play all the time.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:30 AM

I sanded the plates on thw NC last night and besides knocking off a couple during the process, which were replaced right afterward, I think it turned out really well. I will be spraying a black base on the hull and deck tonight. Then comes the hull camo, spray the deck fittings grey, mount the deck and install the wood veneer. Of course, not all in one night.

Pictures will defiantly be coming when that is complete.

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 1:49 PM

When I try to execute ideas I see others pull off with ease.

BK

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:57 AM

Gamera
Hehe, I was thinking she's in the Arctic and cutting her way though a bunch of ice floes! 

LOL, I'd use pieces of plaster for that.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:43 AM

modelcrazy

 

 
goldhammer
Going to be nice to see another technique.....thought you might do the bow spray the same way as the launch splash. 

 

Going to. I will use a transpartent plastic sheet for the bow splash. I'm just adding a little to the swells, not as much as it looks. Now where did I stash that clear plastic  

Of course, this is how my ideas always go.

 

Now, now.....That looks more like my execution of ideas Hmm

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:40 AM

Now there is an evil idea.......Embarrassed

Be a good one for depicting "The Bedford Incident".  Sitting in calm water, among the ice, on passive sonar watch.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:37 AM

modelcrazy

Thanks guys,

OK, here is where it gets ugly and where you think, OMG I've just screwed it up.. I added some scrap foam to the top to add to the swells. Once dry, I'll carve them down some and begin to add the paper strips to make the actual water.

 

Hehe, I was thinking she's in the Arctic and cutting her way though a bunch of ice floes! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:33 AM

goldhammer
Going to be nice to see another technique.....thought you might do the bow spray the same way as the launch splash. 

Going to. I will use a transpartent plastic sheet for the bow splash. I'm just adding a little to the swells, not as much as it looks. Now where did I stash that clear plastic  

Of course, this is how my ideas always go.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:57 AM

Going to be nice to see another technique.....thought you might do the bow spray the same way as the launch splash. 

Always a learning experience for me when you get to doing different water techniques.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:49 AM

Thanks guys,

OK, here is where it gets ugly and where you think, OMG I've just screwed it up.. I added some scrap foam to the top to add to the swells. Once dry, I'll carve them down some and begin to add the paper strips to make the actual water.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 1:59 PM

Looking good Admiral. Yes

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:23 AM

Oh awesome Steve! I want a nice calm sea for my LCT but I'm going to try this with my IJN Shimakaze kit. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:02 AM

The rigging, weathering and slight rusting is complete, I just need to add the small boats......Can't forget that, can't forget that.Whistling

You asked for it, so I'll give you the "making sausage" part of the water base. When I started the build, I purchased the large blue insulation sheet from Lowe's. This is a new material for me so it's new ground. I marked out the hull and cut out it's outline, I then carved out a hole for the hull. This is an extremely messy process regardless of the material used.

I use a BBQ lighter to create the swells, although this is an admittedly easier task with my old standby material, the hard white Styrofoam. During the last part of the build I decided on the type of sea state I wanted. Heavy weather with a large bow crash, I've seen plenty of them in the Bearing, and felt the shock that ran through the ship, very hard on the older electronics BTW.

So onward. I dug out a little more for the bow and plunged the bow further in the material while raising the stern further out of the water. Since this isn't a see through seascape, I used old used paper towel pieces to support the stern. Non of this will be seen and the acrylic gel process will secure the hull to the base.

This is where I ended last night. I will be adding a little material to add to the swells.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 10:03 AM

Terry,

Again, welcome aboard. I'm looking forward to your SS United States.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 9:52 AM

Terry & Brandon: Those sound cool. 

Steve: One of my favorite of your dios! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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