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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 12:50 PM

See, THIS is why I avoid ship models - the rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper, until you black out from lack of oxygen due to the weight of the aftermarket pressing down on you.  Your wallet is screaming in agony because it is suffering from the bends (it's decompressing at an alrming rate), all the while hallucinations make you want to add even more detail to your model.  Stick out tongue

That is some crazy modeling Modelcrazy!  Big Smile  Switch to an oxygen-helium mix and dive deeper!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:29 AM

Yeah, that much PE just makes my poor head hurt. 

Great show again Steve! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 12:26 PM
Mind if I join up with a Tamiya 1/35 Type 61? Should be getting one in the mail today and planning to start on it this week.
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 12:37 PM

GreySnake
Mind if I join up with a Tamiya 1/35 Type 61? Should be getting one in the mail today and planning to start on it this week.
 

Sure! It's one of those kits I've looked at so many times but never picked one up. I'd love to see how yours goes. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:55 AM
Thank you for adding me.
 
The Type 61 is defiantly a model you don’t see that often. I’ve been trying to get my hands on one for about two years now.
 
Anyway here’s my entry.

Not a lot of sprues to this kit. The original kit came out in 1970 and Tamiya then added a new sprue to it in 1993.
 
The lower hull doesn’t look very happy. Of course like most Tamiya armor kits back then it was motorized.
 
The new sprue Tamiya added in 1993.
 
The upper hull has the engine deck handles molded in and those will need replaced.
 
Decals still look pretty good, it’s going to be hard to decide what marking to put on the turret.
 
The most disappointing part of the kit the tracks. I really wish they would have added better tracks like they did with Type 74 Winter Version that came out in the same year.  
It’s going to be an easy build and pretty much straight from the box. I’ll probably replace the .50 cal as the kit one is pretty soft in detail.
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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:42 AM

Oh that's cool! I like the green and tan camo scheme- are you going to do that? It's more interesting than the bland OD green. And some cool looking markings for the turret, dragons, tigers, lions! 

Are you going to replace the kit tracks? I don't normally do so but in that case I'd be sorely tempted. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:41 PM
Gamera, I will be going the two tone camouflage. Give my cold war armor shelf a little variety since it will be among green Soviet tanks.
 
 
Unfortunately I’m stuck with the kit tracks. Modelkasten made a replacement set but I can’t find them available anywhere at all. I’ll keep looking on eBay and maybe one will show up. Otherwise I’ll mud up the lower hull or not worry about it all. I really just want to have fun with this kit and finally get one built.
 
 
Going to fill in the holes on the bottom of the hull this evening and start building tomorrow.  
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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 3, 2020 8:42 AM

Sounds good! Always nice to do a good 'decompression' build and not worry too much about getting detail happy. Did the same on my Tamiya Type 74 a couple years ago.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waikong on Monday, July 6, 2020 4:11 PM
I've been watching this one for months, and can no longer resist in joining now that this pandemic thing has given me more bench time. Please put me down for a Tamiya 1/48 hyakushiki shitei III recon aircraft.
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:26 AM

Sure Waikong, good to have you aboard! I'll go put her down now. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, July 10, 2020 12:36 PM

Finally getting back to the Myrt.....got my Eduard canopy masks and spent three evenings doing the massive greenhouse.

Now ready to spray the interior Nakajima Green inside and on the canopy frames.  Pics coming after I get the ofice painted up and ready to install.

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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, July 13, 2020 5:18 PM
Been pretty busy lately and finally got done fighting a sinus infection. Finally sat down Friday and started working on the Type 61. This is by far my least favorite kit from Tamiya that I’ve built. Granted the kit was first molded in 1970 and can’t be expected to be top of the line.
 
The motorization holes on the bottom of the hull were filled with putty and rather than using a lot of putty to fill a few of the bigger holes I cut some styrene to look like panels. Not accurate but it gets the job done.
The turret fitted together rather badly and needed some putty.
After sanding it came out much better. There were also some welds on the rear that needed replaced that were lost in sanding.
 
The wheels, sprocket and idler didn’t give me any trouble just some bad seams. The tracks can be glued and with a quick test fit everything looks good.
 
The Type 61 has a lot of welds and the welds at least on the bottom of the hull weren’t great. A #11 blade and Tamiya Extra thin cement fixed the problem. At this point I realized I placed the two front tow hooks upside down, they have been cut off and need placed back correctly.
 
Test fit of the upper and lower hull and it fits fine with no need for filling. Without the turret the tank looks like an APC

The tool box of the rear of the turret is hollow on the inside. You can’t really tell without looking closely however I went ahead and cover it up with sheet styrene. Didn’t worry about making it look pretty as you can hardly see it once glued to the back of the turret. I’ll spray some black on the inside of it and the rear of the turret before gluing it in; rather than trying to airbrush it glued on.
 
 
The model doesn’t have sponsons and more styrene was used.
 
 
That is all for me right now. Unless you really want a Type 61 I can’t recommend this model it’s really rough all around.  
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Posted by GreySnake on Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:34 AM
This model is not the easy build that was planned. Still working away at it and getting closer to the finish line as far as building. The molds are just so old almost every part has a noticeable seam line that needs cleaned apart from the sprue from 1993.
 
 
The kit gives you the choice of either a covered or uncovered mantlet. The covered one is from the newer sprue and looks better than the original one so I’m going with that, I’ll attach the mantlet later on once the tank has been painted rather than going through the hastle of masking out the tank.
  
 
The hull is almost finished other then the headlight guards. The seams are pretty pronounced and still need need cleaned up.
  
  
 
Turret has been taking a fair amount of work to look adequate. The rails on the side of took a lot of cleanup to knock down seams and the smoke grenade dischargers were a pain to line up. Still have a few more parts here and there to add such as one lifting hook I snapped while sanding that needs glued back together.
  
  
Here’s what it looks like right now and it’s not too bad. From reading about the Type 61 the Japanese based it on the M36 Jackson and you can see it in the profile.  
  
They also went with a 90mm main gun as it was decided this was the upper limit of what an average Japanese soldier could handle. Compared to Soviet tanks at the time that it would likely face in the event of a war such as the T-54/55 with a 100mm gun it was at a disadvantage at long range.  However it was decided that the 90mm was adequate due to the mountainous terrain of Japan and long range engagements were unlikely.
GAF
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Posted by GAF on Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:56 PM

Greysnake>  She's coming along nicely!  You can see the resemblance to the M36 once its all put together.

Gary

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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, July 20, 2020 6:33 AM
Thank you, Gary. Maybe I’ll finally get to the painting stage this week at last.
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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 24, 2020 7:49 AM

Hello this is Gamera. Guys, sorry I haven't been around. But I've been locked out of my account for the last two weeks. I've contacted tech support four times and they're unable to get me back onto my original account. So I've created a new one here. Of course I can't edit the front page with this new one. But at least I'm on. 

BTW: Great job there Greysnake, you're doing a great job on her. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:03 PM
Gamera, I was wondering what happened glad to have you back. Sorry about getting locked out of the account.
 
I haven’t done any work on the Type 61 other then shooting it with primer and cleaning up some areas that needed attention. My airbrush setup is in my garage and right now it’s been way too hot to paint most of the time. I have a narrow window in the morning that I can do some painting but I have a commission build I’m working on that needs to get painted and finished pretty quickly. I also have to replace the roof on my garage next week so it’s going to be another week or so before I can finally get some paint on this tank.
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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 30, 2020 8:03 AM

Good to have you back boss Big Smile

I arrived at the place I wanted to stop and take a break on the big ole Akagi. I ordered some ladder rungs to replace the pi#@ poor plastic lines that were molded on however, until that time arrives.....I'm putting hes asside and working on something else in the que....not Japanese.

BTW cliff, did you see that groovy Betty I got? Sorry for the 70's throw back but that's when it was molded. Hase just changed the color of the plastic and printed new decals and called it new kit Huh?. Now I have 2 old Base Bettys Sleep At least now I can make one in 1941 markings and the other the surrender plane "Bataan 2", Oh and I can keep the baca bomb as a bonus prize!

Heres the Akagi. Ignore any missing ladders and such. They were removed to easily facilitate the removal of the plastic handholds and instalation of the new PE. Those will all be taken care of once I get the rungs in.

I know it doesn't look like much but it constitutes many hours of magnyfying light work

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:03 AM

Again that looks fantastic Steve!!! 

Sucks that I won't be able to post you, Greysnake, or anyone else to the front page though unless I can get back into my old account though... Bang Head

 

Love that Betty, sorry I saw her but Real G's giant mach distracted me... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Zvezda1980 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:52 AM

Sensei Gamera

I would like to also have a place under the rising sun, with this (scale 1 /48).

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 31, 2020 8:29 AM

Zvezda: Sure! I'd love to see you build her. 

But as I said I can't edit the front page with this new account so I can't add you to the roster there or post a photo of your finished build. 

But still I'd love to have you add her. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GAF on Friday, July 31, 2020 6:17 PM

Gamera977

Zvezda: Sure! I'd love to see you build her. 

But as I said I can't edit the front page with this new account so I can't add you to the roster there or post a photo of your finished build. 

But still I'd love to have you add her. 

Glad to see you back, Gamera (sort of)!  I would suggest just making a new GB thread (Japanese Group Build IX-A or something like that) and transferring pictures and text over to the new thread, with a link back to this one.  No one will object, I'm sure.

Anyway, hope you can recover your old profile soon.

Gary

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 31, 2020 6:43 PM

GAF
I would suggest just making a new GB thread (Japanese Group Build IX-A or something like that) and transferring pictures and text over to the new thread, with a link back to this one.  No one will object, I'm sure.

I had to do that once to continue the ground attack GB a few years ago when Matt Joachim disappeared off the forums.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Friday, July 31, 2020 7:31 PM

Make it so.

 

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Posted by Zvezda1980 on Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:00 AM

Gamera977

Zvezda: Sure! I'd love to see you build her. 

But as I said I can't edit the front page with this new account so I can't add you to the roster there or post a photo of your finished build. 

But still I'd love to have you add her. 

 

No worries boss, I roll up my sleeves and build it no matter what.

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Posted by Zvezda1980 on Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:23 AM

construction started yesterday.

I had this PE set in the stash. Some parts will be used and some not (such as the IP, radio, etc which to my eye is better covered by the kit's decals

The relief details of the IP were sanded down. Detail was excellent and I felt some remorse when I obliterated all. If I get another Kate, I will proceed straight to painting the IP.

The numerous ejection marks on the cockpit sidewalls and crew seats were covered with tamiya tape, cut in each panel's dimensions. First PE parts were also added.

After the phase 1 of the assembly, everything was sprayed with a 50:50 mix of Tamiya XF-71 and a random light grey, in order to reach the Nakajima cockpit green. Various details were brush painted.

Decals and PE instruments were applied.

After that, a seal with floor finish and a black wash.

Seat belts were included in the PE set, placed and painted a random tan color.

And finally some paint chipping. The contrast will be toned down with a flat coat and some slight dry pastels.

I apologize for the long post, but the hellish heat that prevails here for the last week, had the positive effect of reducing drying times to a phenomenal rate, thus all the above were done within a day.

 

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Sunday, August 2, 2020 7:27 AM
Steve, that’s amazing work on the Akagi.
 
 
Zvezda, the Kate is coming along nicely. Both of us seem to be dealing with very hot environments. I haven’t been able to airbrush for almost three months now because of the heat. It’s still going to be around 103 degrees or 39 Celsius during the day for the next two weeks.   
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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, August 2, 2020 12:33 PM

Thanks GS, I'm taking a break while waiting for more AM

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, August 2, 2020 11:42 PM

Steve,

Everytime I look at the work on the Akagi I have to wonder about your mental health!  I know that sailing ship builders are certifiable, but this...  Wink

Zvezda> That is great work on the cockpit!  Wish mine had turned out so good.

Gary

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 3, 2020 2:40 PM

GAF
Steve, Everytime I look at the work on the Akagi I have to wonder about your mental health!  I know that sailing ship builders are certifiable, but this... 

Thanks Gary.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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