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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, January 2, 2021 6:31 PM

Thank you Lewbud-sign me up for a 1/48 Hasegawa bf109E-4/7 Jabo.

Bob

 

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, January 2, 2021 12:13 PM

bobbaily

Lewbud-would a bf-109e Jabo qualify as Close Air Support?  I'm thinking something from the Russian front?  If not, no problem-I've got plenty of kits that would qualify if not.

Thanks

 

 

Absolutely. Go for it.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:19 AM

Got the test fit done for all of the major structures this morning.  The fit is surprisingly good so far for a Trumpeter kit, but the panel line alignment of the fuselage halves is staggered.  Most are dead on, but a few are offset one direction, and a few the opposite direction.  They're close enough though that I think I can make an acceptable correction just by making those panel lines a little wider.  Almost 900 pieces in this box!!!  YIKES!  Most of that is ordnance and ordnance-carrying structures.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by oortiz10 on Friday, January 1, 2021 4:46 PM

OK CAS fiends, I have made a decision and...um...decided on what I'm going to build. I'm going to jump in with 2 helos. I'm going to build a AH-1G and a -J. The -J will be a crossover from the First Gulf War 30th Anniversary GB going on at the same time.

I have kitbashed Fujimi's -J and -S into a USMC -G before.

This time, the kitbash will create an Army -G from the Vietnam era. I haven't decided on markings yet, but it will probably be a boring OD bird. The -J will most likely be built up as a gray camo bird, like one from either HMA-773 or 775.

I have been planning on building all the USMC Cobra variants. So far I have the -G and the AH-1Z demonstrator (AH-1(4B)W) done. After this, I'll still need a -T, -W, and -Z, which I happen to already have in the stash.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting started.

Happy modeling!

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, January 1, 2021 3:21 PM

Lewbud-would a bf-109e Jabo qualify as Close Air Support?  I'm thinking something from the Russian front?  If not, no problem-I've got plenty of kits that would qualify if not.

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by fotofrank on Friday, January 1, 2021 3:12 PM

The plastic on this old Monogram F9F (1990) is kinda brittle. Hafta be careful. Already lost one part to breakage and the Carpet Monster.

OK. In the stash: Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Friday, January 1, 2021 11:58 AM

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, January 1, 2021 10:54 AM

So I mentioned the Academy A-10.

I also have this Ju87A conversion that's been looking at me for a while. It's an older Airfix 1/72 kit and the conversion has vacuum formed parts and is by Airframe.  Looks quite old.

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by fotofrank on Thursday, December 31, 2020 2:17 PM

Here's where I start tomorrow. The old Monogram F9F kit. All the supplies are on hand. Just need to see the green flag. Haven't built a jet in a while so this should be fun. A Panther of VMF-311. I have an Aurora display stand so I'll probably pose it in flight. Jets just look better in flight instead of parked. BTW: I have "Men of the Fighting Lady" on DVR, so I'll watch the movie while I do this build.

OK. In the stash: Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 2:31 PM

The A-6 Intruder gets my vote for this GB, and the A-10 for the sand box build.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:53 PM

Drums,

Really looking forward to watching this build.

JustinRyan,

You could always do both.Whistling

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:46 PM

I know it does not begin for a couple more days, but I am posting data on my build now in anticipation of hitting the ground running. I am also building this on the aircraft forum and the Vietnam GB too. I suppose you could call that multi purpose building (?). Here goes.....


HISTORY: FAIRCHILD AC-119: (From Wikipedia)

The Fairchild AC-119G Shadow and AC-119K Stinger were twin-engine piston-powered gunships developed by the United States during the Vietnam War. They replaced the Douglas AC-47 Spooky and operated alongside the early versions of the AC-130 Spectre gunship. In February 1968, under the USAF program Project Gunship III, 26 C-119Gs were converted to AC-119G standard, initially taking on the name "Creep", but later assigned the callsign "Shadow".

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In addition, Fairchild-Hiller, which was contracted for all the conversions, converted another 26 C-119Gs into AC-119Ks, primarily for the "truck hunter" role over the Ho Chi Minh Trail. These aircraft were called "Stingers" primarily in reference to the two M61 Vulcan 20-mm cannons they carried in addition to the AC-119G's four GAU-2/A miniguns. The AC-119K could be visually distinguished by the addition of two General Electric J85 turbojet engines in underwing pods. 

Project Gunship III, being a follow-on to the success of the AC-130 series, meant that the AC-119 was a more advanced aircraft in both its iterations than the AC-47. Even the TIC AC-119G featured some of the most up-to-date electronic countermeasures and radar equipment, as well as more basic technology, including an AVQ-8 xenon light, a night observation sight, and an LAU-74/A flare launcher. The AC-119K, designed to hit trucks on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, was even more advanced. Included in the conversion was the AN/APN-147 Doppler navigation radar, AN/AAD-4 forward looking infrared, AN/APQ-133 side-looking beacon tracking radar and AN/APQ-136 search radar.

Actual aircraft photos:
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The photo below shows the guns in a AC-47, but they are very similar.

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General Characteristics:

Crew: 6 (day), 8 (night)
Length: 86 ft 5.75 in (26.3589 m)
Wingspan: 109 ft 3.25 in (33.3058 m)
Height: 26 ft 7.75 in (8.1217 m)
Wing area: 1,400 sq ft (130 m2)
Airfoil: root: NACA 2418; tip: NACA 4409[4]
Empty weight: 40,125 lb (18,200 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 62,000 lb (28,123 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Wright R-3350-85 Duplex-Cyclone 18-cylinder air-cooled radial piston engines, 2,500 hp (1,900 kW) each for take-off
Propellers: 4-bladed constant-speed fully-feathering reversible-pitch propellers

Performance:

Maximum speed: 180 kn (210 mph, 330 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kn (150 mph, 240 km/h)
Range: 1,680 nmi (1,930 mi, 3,110 km)
Service ceiling: 23,300 ft (7,100 m)

Armament:

4× GAU-2/A 7.62 mm (0.30 in) miniguns, 1,500 rounds/gun
2× M61 Vulcan 20 mm (0.787 in) 6-barreled Gatling cannon (AC-119K variant only)
60× Mk 24 flares in a LAU-74/A flare launcher

SCALE MODEL:

This kit was originally produced in 1985 as a 1/72 transport version by Italeri. To extend the life of the product, the kit was reboxed with some added parts to make the gunship variant and sold in 1987. Later in the models life it was repackaged under the Testers brand. 

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Molded in black styrene, this kit is presented on five parts trees plus a single tree of clear parts. At its time of molding it was considered a highly detailed model featuring fine raised surface detailing. It also has the regular ejection pin marks throughout the kit that was found during that era. While some parts feature crisp separations and angles, other parts show flash, dimples, and pour over from the mold. All of the wing and tail control surfaces are molded with the main assemblies in the neutral (straight position). The main parts have male and female locator pins to ensure proper alignment. The majority of the detail are in the cockpit and internal fuselage gun area. Unfortunately, most of that detail will not be seen once the airframe is closed up. The rear clamshell doors can be positioned in the open or closed position. Detail on the two Wright R-3350-85 Duplex-Cyclone 18-cylinder air-cooled radial piston engines is very minimal and includes a half molded image of the rear cylinder bank on the bulkhead a prop shaft and the front bank of the pistons showing minimal shape or detail. 

The added parts of the "Stinger" gunship conversion include the Forward Look Infra-red sensor (lower left front of the fuselage), An/APQ-133 Beacon Tracking Radar (left rear of fuselage), smoke evacuation scoops in the close position (just behind the front door), the Night Observation Sight (NOS) (in the front door), the Illumanator (left rear clamshell), the Flare Launcher (right clamshell), 2- 20mm guns, and 4- 7.62mm rotary machine guns.

What it is missing to make the cargo bay complete would be the 7.62 and 20mm ammunition storage bins, auxiliary power unit, illuminator and fir system controls/computers, etc.

Kit instructions are typical for the scale and period. They are shown in the exploded view with an arrow showing the assembly point. Unlike some models of the period, the kit do not have any detailed written instructions but it does call out the part and the suggested paint code with a model master paint ledger on the 1st page.  

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Decals for the kit are:

AC-119K, 53-3154, 18 SOS, Phan Rang AB, 1968, 'Pea-Nut Special'
AC-119K, 52-9982, 18 SOS, Nha Trang AB, 1968, 'The Super Sow'

When looking at this model and checking various sources as to what is available to super detail it, there is really little to nothing out there in the after-market suppliers specific to the AC-119G or K model. I found metal replacement landing gear if you are building it on the ground but that's about it. I should note that there was once a complete decal sheet for the AC-119G/K in 1/72. It was available at one time by AOA decals and had the tail number and graphics for 14 different aircraft. Every source to include the manufacturers site indicate they are sold out. There are a limited supply of the regular boxcar transport decals available at various sources if some of the aircraft stencils would be needed. I also believe a hand full of the 1/72 stencils for an AC-130 could be sourced to fill in the ones not provided in the kit (?). There are some items available for the 1/72 AC-47 or AC-130 that could be used to detail the build such as resin or brass replacement guns, etc.

Here is what comes in the kit:

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Another thing, the kit has no figures. This means if I want to build the gunship in flight I will need to source four seated figures for the cockpit and possibly two to four more for the cargo/gun bay. At one time Hasegawa made a pilot and ground crew set in 1/72 that just might fit the need for figures perfectly (?). And "yes", I am planning on building mine in flight.

For those who really like this aircraft, I also noticed that Roden makes it in 1/144 and some time ago Aurora models made the cargo version with a jeep and howitzer in 1/77 scale.

MODIFICATIONS TO FOLLOW:

INTERNALLY:

Considering the size of the openings and windows, I've decided on adding some extra details within the fuselage but nothing too crazy. My goal it to provide enough details to look credible. 

Some things I have prepared to work on internally are the Auxilliary Power Unit (APU), the 20mm and 7.62 ammunition storage racks, the Fire Control perphials, etc. In the second photo you can also see the fuselage reinforced bracing for the wing assembly just inside the window, I plan on adding that too. 

I also plan on adding ammo intake belts and the shell casing/clip discharge chutes (and possibly catch cans for the brass?). The last items I plan on adding to the gun area will be a few people and perhaps the smoke evacuation lanyard to the top of the cargo bay roof.

(AC-47 photo, but guns are very similar)

As for the 20mm guns, I see partial photos showing a trough below and to the rear of the gun motor/breach assembly. I need to locate more details photos of these guns to see if I need to make those for the discharge tray of the shell casings.

AC-119 gun bay:

EXTERNALLY:

I have started thinking about some details missing on the model such as the small air intakes above the 7.62mm gun windows. They will be added along with the hose inside the fuselage to represent the cooling vents for the gun motor / breach areas.

The kits 7.62 mini-guns, specifically the gun barrels are OK but not well detailed. To solve that I've ordered some resin replacement which provide great depth of detail which I hope can be seen externally. 

The intake and exhaust for the APU will also be added below the right wing on the fuselage. There may be more "things" to add to the external build process, but nothing of note just yet. 

COCKPIT:

The cockpit will be mostly OOB with the exception of the pilots and perhaps the anti-glare blinds for the top fuselage windows. 

ENGINES:

I mentioned in the review that they are very basic. Instead of searching for some after-market replacement, I am going to try to add just a little detail that will be visible in the opening behind the propeller. I noticed that the kit provides the updated props and not like those found on the earlier G or early K's. The kit does not come with any stencils for the props or the external fuselage. I have a limited amount in my spares but have also orders prop stencils. 

And the count down begins.....

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

NEXT PROJECT:

1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, December 28, 2020 11:48 AM

So, I am torn between The 1/48th Revell A-6 Intruder or the 1/48th Revell A10.

I am planning one for this build and the other for the Desert Storm group build.....

 

Tell me which you guys would rather see here!!!

 

lol

 

Justin

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by cbaltrin on Monday, December 28, 2020 7:08 AM

Lewbud,  Reserving the right to change my mind and maintaining plausible deniability, pencil me in for a Monogram Skyraider.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:09 AM

oortiz10,

Welcome aboard!  I've got you on the list and the front page is updated.  Man there are a lot of Devastators being built for this.

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Posted by oortiz10 on Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:47 PM

Hey gang, I think I'll get in on this one. I don't have a subject yet, but since crossovers are allowed, I'm going to see if I have something in the stash that will kill two birds at the same time. I'll let y'all know as soon as I have a subject.

Cheers!

-O

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:23 PM

learmech,

Welcome aboard!

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by learmech64 on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 7:37 AM

Ill give it go. Will be a A-10 of either Tamiya 1/48 or Trumpeter 1/32, i havent decided yet.

 

Doug

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:16 AM

Almost.

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Posted by fotofrank on Monday, December 21, 2020 8:52 AM

Are we there yet?

OK. In the stash: Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, December 20, 2020 1:13 AM

bumpity bump bump bumpity bump look at Frosty go....

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, December 14, 2020 12:32 AM

I apologize for falling down on my leaderly duties by neglecting to update the front page in a timely fashion. 

razor, John, cbaltrin,

Welcome aboard! John and razor's builds definitely fall under the"And now, for something completely different." category.  The stuff of the interwar period where they were trying to figure things out is always interesting to see. cbaltrin, we look forward to your build as well.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by cbaltrin on Sunday, December 13, 2020 7:19 PM

Sign me up. Not sure what im building yet.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, December 11, 2020 9:24 PM

I guess I'll have to join in this one, looks like it's going to very active.  I'm thinking an LF resin Curtiss A-18 in 1/72.

John

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Posted by dwsrazor on Friday, December 11, 2020 9:02 PM

I'll join the fray with something a little different.  Heller's 1/72 Breguet 693.

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:01 AM

Welcome aboard Jasper!

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Jasper on Sunday, December 6, 2020 11:50 AM

I'd like to join! I've got a 1/48 Accurate Miniatures A-36 Apache that is barely started from several years ago (just some paint on an after-market cockpit set). I'm looking to finally spending some time at the work bench.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:43 PM

That Quinta Studios stuff is amazing quality.  Picked up a set for my Su-25 build.  Even the glass in the instruments is faithfully reproduced.

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:26 PM

lostagain,

Got you on the list amigo!

Keavdog,

Made the change.  Should be an interesting build.  If you need any pics of the real deal, there's two at the Lancaster, TX Municipal airport (one's flyable, the other is now a gate guard due to a negligent truck driver).  I've got a bunch of detail pics on my fotki page if you're interested.  Btw, have you seen these?  I almost ordered a set and Zvezda Hind so I could use them, but I figured I only have shelfspace for the two divine scale Hinds I have right now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quinta-QD48026-1-48-Mi-24V-Hind-3D-Printed-coloured-interior-for-Zvezda-kit/164167050386?hash=item26391e6492:g:8ygAAOSwh3xenLxO

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Posted by lostagain on Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:04 PM

Hi Lewbud,

Count me in! Novo Vultee Vengance 1/72 RAAF, built as a cross over with another great GB!

Keavdog, now I really want to see what the close air support Kawasaki will look like...

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