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RAF120

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March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Friday, July 23, 2004 9:33 PM

edog- I was going through your "short" list and checking it with what little refrence I have of F1s. My question is you said that the turret vision slits need to be filled, but from what I saw only the slit on the left side needs to be filled. Now I think I only have 1 or 2 pic of the right side and I think they 're both of the same tank, so I look to you to confirm or deny what I've seen. ( sorry, anyone else feel free to chime in too.)

I'm planing on painting in panzer gray, what color should I use. I normally use MM or Tamiya.

thanks for the help.

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:49 AM

RAF, you are correct about the vision slits. Sorry about all the confusion, but most of the diagrams I have show the vision slit filled, while all the photos show that the right one is not filled. Good job picking up my mistake!! Black Eye [B)]

As far as a color, Tamiya makes German Gray. As I understand it, Tamiya has very accurate colors.

Here is a quick preview of how I am painting mine. The base is MM medium gray, but it is a little too blue for my taste. If I had it to do over again I would go with light ghost gray for the base. Then I post shaded with Tamiya German Grey and ran streaks up and down till I achieved the desired effect. I really think this can give a lot of depth to an otherwise boring paint job.

Good luck with your build and keep us updated! Big Smile [:D]

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rebelreenactor

Member since
October 2003
From: Clovis, Calif

Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, July 24, 2004 9:27 AM

WOW! As soon as my new airbrush comes, I am going to try some of that, Post shadeing or preshadeing. It really gives it a nice effect. Good loooking build edog.

John

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:02 PM

Edog,,, Looking good so far. That shading is great.

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RAF120

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March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:18 PM

edog thanks for the confimation and the help with the colors. I'm a long way off from paint but I needed to check my colors and see if I need to get to the LHS.

Your paint job looks great gives me somthing to shoot for.

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:35 AM

Mike great use of PE, really enhances your kit.

Eric, I also like the streaky look. Good idea.

Eric

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RAF120

Member since
March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:32 PM

Is it just me or is there no part numbers on the sprues of this
Italeri kit. Confused [%-)]

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:48 PM

RAF,
yes, you are right. The part numbers are outlined on the instruction sheet with a mockup of the spurs. I found it annoying myself.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:49 PM

Renarts and Edog your builds are looking very nice,can't wait to see them finished..
I've been making steady progres on my Flakpanzer 1V,still no pics yet,no excuses iv'e just been a little slack lately....
Anyway since i started modeling again at the begining of the year i've tried to experiment with new techniqes pulled from the pages of FSM magazine and the Panzer 1V flakpanzer will be painted useing the weathering with salt technique from a previous issue of FSM(Hope it works).............J.S

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tigerman

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March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Monday, July 26, 2004 3:23 PM

Good luck on the salt technique for the Flakpanzer J.S. I'm curious to see how it looks.

Eric

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rebelreenactor

Member since
October 2003
From: Clovis, Calif

Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:08 PM

My build is completed! I am getting the pics right now.

John

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rebelreenactor

Member since
October 2003
From: Clovis, Calif

Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:36 PM

Here are a few pics. I will get more tommorrow.

and a before wash, pastels and decals.

Comments please! Smile [:)]

John

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:10 AM

very nice!! Thumbs Up [tup]

I cant wait to see the rest of the pics. The decals are very well done, and I like how you have "dusted" the lower hull. One suggestion, it looks like the dust did not get behind the road wheels. I always try to put the road wheels and tracks on last, so the entire lower hull gets the same treatment. Like I said though... great job!!! Big Smile [:D]

ok, since rebelreenactor has finished first, he has decided that the patch with the solid silhouette will bee the group badge. Here it is just in case you guys forgot:

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rebelreenactor

Member since
October 2003
From: Clovis, Calif

Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:56 AM

Thanks edog. I am always finding new ways to do things by trial and error. The dust is pastes and tamiya buff highly diluted. I get the rest of theose pics.

John

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:26 PM

Hey rebel...not too shabby at all! A little rough around the edges, but pretty darn good overall.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:37 PM

Greetings fellow build-alongers...

Well, my Dragon Ausf G is coming along slowly, but surely! Big Smile [:D]

I've just finished putting the base colors on everything and figured I'd post a few more in-progress photos for your perusal.

Overall:

A close-up of the left fender tools:

The right fender tools:

And a close-up of the decals, which I thought went down pretty nicely:

Now it's time for washes, weathering, paint chipping, pastels, etc...

Just to let you know, the look I'm going for with this OTB build is of a tank painted at the factory, with nice clean tools attached, then sent to the front and not repainted by the field unit at all. It will have between 4 and 7 months worth of weathering added to this factory finish and at least a minimal amount of battle damage and general wear-and-tear added as well.

Hope you enjoy it and as usual all comments, suggestions, and ideas are more than welcome.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:53 PM

Can I still join in, if so would a Hummel count towards this build? If not I'll go and get a Pz IV

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:32 PM

Foster, she is looking good, a little too clean for my taste, but very good!! I cant wait to see some dirt on it!! Overall, a very clean looking build! Thumbs Up [tup]

ddayomaha, the Hummel was on a Pz IV chassis... yes, but it was a very modified chassis. I think it would be a stretch to call it a Pz IV, but if you read the rules on the first page I think you will find that it is up to you. I will put you on the list. Big Smile [:D]

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:47 PM

edog,

It's very much "too clean" to my liking as well. That's why, as I said above, these are in-progress pictures of the tank as it would have looked rolling out of the factory. It's no where near done.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:38 PM

Edog, I think I'll build the Hummel for this build and hopefully finsh another Pz IV for the build too.

When does the build end?

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:30 AM

Robert, that Dragon kit sure looks nice.

Eric

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:13 AM

ddayomaha, there is not set end date.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:07 AM

Robert and Rebel very nicely done fellas......
I better get a move along with mine,when i reach the airbrushing stage things slow to sloth speed...........J.S

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rebelreenactor

Member since
October 2003
From: Clovis, Calif

Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:34 PM

Sorry guys, I might not be able to post the pics this week. I am not really at home.

Hey robert, blew me out of the competition! Not fair!

John

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:13 PM

Been on limited net time, so I needed to catch up on a few pages. Wow guys, they all look great so far. Nice to see a variety of versions and schemes.

Sorry to say I have done little modelling at all these past few weeks, with my boys both having jobs after school, I have been running them around a lot and also running an exchange student around. I'm glad this GB has 'no end date!' 'cause I'm way behind on the Small afv GB too. Some serious building now required.

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RAF120

Member since
March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:04 PM

rebel you got a nice well worn Panzer there

Robert your Ausf G looks good

I go a slow start on my Italeri F1 but things are looking good, most of the lower hull is done.

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:48 AM

Just got finished with the Dragon Pz IV F2 and here she is:

The Italeri Pz IV F1 is waiting on a thick coat of mud for the lower hull:

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:01 PM

WOW! great build edog!

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:50 PM

Couple of good looking builds there, edog.

Are you planning on doing any additional work to the lower hull on the F1?

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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RAF120

Member since
March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Saturday, July 31, 2004 8:36 PM

I like how you did the muffler, looks good

How did you do it?

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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