Mad Fokker Day: 17 October 2004

DJ-
thanks for all the leg-work & suggestions.
i am not sure my gf is ready for that kind of modeling!! [:0]
and probably too ticklish for brush painting!

i think i am going to order Blue Rider's for Jasta 2,
which has the Kempf markings & square crosses (i think).
naturally the decals cost more than the plane!
and if i go for the guns, i will have tripled the cost of the project!
but the total will still be at or under $20 US . . .

but the guns may be a bit ambitious for someone like me.
short time frame, and my PE experience is limited to 1/32 Aircraft & 1/35 armor.

here is a pic i found for square cross bird, but i think these stripes are oblique.

Hmmm... I think i'll follow the K.I.S.S. principal on this (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) and do Manfred von Richtoffen's all red Dr.1. => Though, i do want to get my hands on the dragon Dr.1, because it even comes with Kempf's bust in resin!

Those busts were a cool addition to that series of kits, Shrikes! Good luck in your searches!

Ok, I just got one Dr1 today in Antwerp, I was going to get the Eduard Profipack ; guess what, right out of stock.

But... I've found the Striptea...euh, Strip down model from the same manufacterer.
I think I won't be making this one for the Mad Fokker Day though (I just can't wait that long ).
The reason I tell you this, is that you actually get two kits in this "box" ; the PE parts, and a complete plastic kit, from which you only need a few little parts.
What I'm going to do, is this, I'm going to get the cheap Revell, and use only the parts that I will mis in the Eduard kit (which is offcourse very nicely detailed).

The Revell-parts that I will use are :

- landinggear
- prop
- struts
and engine
all the rest will be Eduard...

Oh, and yes, the thought had crossed my mind of making the V3 prototype, that would have eleminated the need for interwing struts, but that plane is so unknown that you guys would have probably thought that I forgot those useless struts.
Yes, the struts on the Fokker Dr1 were useless, Fokker just added them because pilots didn't trust airplanes without them
(Look who did his homework)

By the way, did somebody allready mention that this is a very small airplane ?

Hey Dan, You seem to know your subject! That strip down model looks very interesting! Let us know how things go if you are building it soon!

Hello everyone,
Count me in with the Revell kit. I will look into picking the etch set from Tom Modelwork's and some decals as well.

Welcome aboard, Balta1. That makes us 20 I think!

Well, usually it takes about 3 to 4 weeks for me to put together a simple subject, such as an Albatros DV... To do a Dr.1 in 24hrs, even with the small amount of rigging work.... its a chalenge... Therefore mine will be OOB, all-red, no thrils...

Now I´m in the process of explanining to SWMBO (she, who must be obeyed) why I'm suppose to start modeling such a tiny little bug at midnight, instead of being in the bed sleeping.... She thinks I'm really going nuts this time....

We all have some explaining to do, afterwards!

It is very interesting to built, not to mention that it really helps building up skills , however I did one mistake, I forgot to wash the PE sheets before starting, I just hope I won't destray the plane when I wash afterwards.

You can see the first pic on
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26469
others will follow soon.

It does look really cool and also quite complicated, Dan..! Great skills!

I've been adding more links and pictures to the 'introductory' message of this thread; those latest additions include yet more reviews of the latest Revell kit, plus pictures and links to yet more decals, in case you were not interested in an overall red machine!

Hope this helps!

Just a question: how do we know what kind of read to use if all the refference pictures of the time were black and white? I suppose any-old red will do... ? Tamiya only makes 2 or 3, so i'll have to be content with that.

Hi Shrikes,

The good thing about WW1 modelling, is that if you are not sure about the tone of red to use, most probably neither all other people are!! The matter of colours is even today, a most subjective one, so by going back almost one century... I did the Roden Dr1 a few years ago (I would post a picture, if i found how to do it...), and then I used Tamyia acrylic flat red. And it looked good to me....

Rafael, try this:

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4462

Thanks djmodel1999! That means I must have an URL. I´ll look into it as soon as I can!

Regards,

The easiest if you do not have a website of your own, is to download your pics onto Ron's site (there's a link on that thread). It's real easy. You need to fill in the two fields on the log-in page: type "newfsm" in the top one and "models" as the password, then go into the uploading gallery (there's a scroll down thingy at the top from where you can select the "add pictures" option).

Thanks again djmodels1999! I think I got it now. Here goes:





Now i'll work on mine URL!!


Regards,

.... didn't work....

where are your pictures? On which site? Ron's? What are their URLs?

Make sure there are no spaces between the url and the image-tags !!!

latest report:
i have been searching 4 the new revell Dr.1 kit online &
in a couple of hobby shops w/ no success...
i mite have 2 either do a special order thru my LHS
and they r really bad about special orders, so i'd rather not.
or else get the eduard kit, the kempf one most likely ...
but while i was looking 4 the Dr.1, i found something else:
a Nieuport 17c kit... it's packaged in a Testor's box,
but the bottom wing says Hawk on it.... it's a basic kit
& it's in 1/48 ( i promised Jeeves & kik36 i'd build a 1/48 plane, lol !)
but it will hopefully make a nice 'warm-up'...
now i just need 2 find decals 4 Nungesser's markings !
sorry 2 b [#offtopic

frosty

Frosty, there are some decals for 1/48 Ni-17:

Aeromaster have 2 sheets, regretably not with the famed Nungesser machine:
Sheet 48504:

Sheet 48521:


Blue Rider have one with 2 French Ni-17 (+other birds): Sheet 48503 (haven't located a pic yet!), plus one for Italian Ni-17 (48504), Russian birds (48507), Belgian ones (48513 - probably the famed 'Comete' Squadron) and yet more Rssian ones (48524)...

Dutch Decals have a sheet with, surprisingly, two Dutch Nieuports..

Illiad have a very neat sheet for various Russian Ni-17;
Sheet 48008:

Sorry for not being able top respond earlier to your message, djmodels1999. i´ve been away. But, yes. Pictures are in Ron´s site. You will easily find 2 pictures of a red/white Dr.1. I´ll try latter to post again.

regards,

Domi:
thanx 4 the info on the Ni-17 decals !
too bad about the Nungesser markings, i was liking the kind of
Goth effect, LOL ...but some of those other birds look pretty neat too.
using a rattle can, i put a base coat of tamiya german grey on the 17,
& will spray some MM german silver over that this weekend, most likely.
still no luck finding the new revell Dr. 1, but there's still time...

frosty

Rafael, here are your pictures (I presume):





Once your pic are on Ron's site, click on the thumbnail, as this brings in the larger, full size image you downloaded; right click on that image and go to 'Properties', and on that new window, Copy the url (in this case):

http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/Fokker_Dr1.sized.jpg

Back on FSM Foerum, open up a 'Reply to Topic' window (not the quick reply one), and above the text fields, there are a few icons, including one that represents a picture. Click on it and you'll see this appear in the text field:
[ img][/img]
Note: you will not see a gap between the [ and the first i ; if I add the tag code without inserting that space, it gives this:


Now Paste the url right between the inside brackets of the image tag code: ][
(do not insert any extra spaces or anything else)

Click on preview to check, then post away!

It sure looks good Rafael! Who was the pilot? Where do the decals come from? How was the kit itself?

Frosty, can't wait to see pics of this Ni-17..

Thanks a lot for your help, djmodels1999!

This is the 1/72 Roden DR.1 representing August Raben machine of Jasta 18 as of Summer 1918. Decals are OOB, and quite good, which is surprising for Roden. Some of their decals simply desintegrate when soaked....
I've made this kit a few years ago, and as far as I can recall, it was a quite streightforward build, as most Roden kits are. Nevertheless, I remenber some pieces to be quite fragile to remove from sprues.

It is tiny....

Regards,

Is it the same Raben who flew a Fokker DVII similarly decorated but blue instead of red??

I'm not sure. I know he flew a DVII with the same red decoration but with a black bird, while in Jasta 18.... I suppose it is possible he had flew a blue one. I´ve seen decals for the blue one, or at least something in my literature. I´ll check that and get back to you.

Regards

I've only found reference of a blue Dr.I, also while in Jasta 18. I´ll continue looking into this.

Regards,