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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 6:53 PM

Thanks Darren. Looking forward to seeing the Spitfire.

Regards, Rick

RICK

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Tankmaster7

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August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:41 PM

OK a brief progress report: the do-17 is almost ready for painting. wow. that was one of my fastest builds ever.

-Tanky

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:53 PM

Fast work Tanky. Looking forward to seeing the model.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 2:22 AM

Newsflash

My Hasa Hurri is out of the box! I just couldn't resist it any longer, that and my other 1/48 project the PZL is complete apart from a quick touch up with matt varnish in a few places, so I figured I could legitimately start on the Hurricane.

So far I've cut the rudder off and removed the hump behind the pilot, both ready for the Ultracast replacements. All the cockpit parts have been cleaned up, including the Ultracast seat and back armour, and test assembled, and they look gorgeous, even without paint.

Game plan is to paint the pit this weekend, along with the wheel bay etc, and hopefully have the fuselage and wings together by the end of next week.

From what little I've done so far, I can see that this kit is going to be a joy.

I'll post some pictures when I get a chance.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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tweety1

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August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 8:30 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Thanks Sean. I've always been partial to the yellow nosed 109's as well. Want to do a white nose sometime as well, but haven't got to it yet.

Regards, Rick

There were white nose 109's??? Question [?]

Well, gonna have to suss that out, had NO idea about that one Dunce [D)]

I know there were some funky red nosed 109's, Jules is planning on building one.
Cheers for that lil' bit of info Rick, might be another 109 build on the way Big Smile [:D]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 8:56 AM

Karl, I have started mine as well. It's a very nice kit so you should enjoy it. The Ultracast parts make a big difference, especially the seat & wheel bay replacements.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 12:47 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1
There were white nose 109's???
Well, gonna have to suss that out, had NO idea about that one

I know there were some funky red nosed 109's, Jules is planning on building one.
Cheers for that lil' bit of info Rick, might be another 109 build on the way

Well, they weren't common, but I have references on several. The most interesting to me is a Bf-109 E-3 of 3./JG 52, Yellow 15 flown by Uffz. Karl Wolff. It was in the RLM 02/71/65 scheme, with a white cowl, rudder, wing & tail plane tips. It also had the distinctive "Running Boar" emblem on both sides of the white cowl. I plan on building that one " Someday".

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 7:30 PM

that does sound nice Rick! let me know if you start it one day as I would be interested to see it finished...

well I took some more pics of my pretty much finished Martlet but they really didn't come out well... tomorrow I *HAVE* to go get that posterboard as that will help reflect the light.. also I realized my modeling room is better lit than at ther kitchen table so I want to try some in here tomorrow... (probably 6 or 7 hundred watts total in here... not counting the flourescent) so I think I will be much better off... plus I notcied a spot of clear parts glue that leacked from under the canopy I need to dull first... may start another BoB build as I am still waiting on pieces for my Typhoon... I'll probably do the 110 I started before the build... I wont count it as official for the build but it would be interesting to see if it builds up as good as it started!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 7:37 PM

I'll let you know Tom, but don't hold your breath Smile [:)]

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Looking forward to the finished Martlett.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 9:12 PM

thanks Rick.... will do it tomorrow... proper lighting and posterboard be damned!! Wink [;)]

---edit---

Darren --- any sign of the future yet? kinda has me worried... I was thinking today that the guy at the mail shop didn't have me fill out a customs form like when I mailed Reggie the Aztek I sent him to Singapore... kinda odd... hope it either makes it or comes back to me one of the two!!! I really want to get that to you guys!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Tankmaster7

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From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 9:24 PM

well, progress on the do-17 is going slowly now. This is because I got sidetracked with my MiG-29. but it will get paint eventually.

-Tanky

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tweety1

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From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 9:40 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1
There were white nose 109's???
Well, gonna have to suss that out, had NO idea about that one

I know there were some funky red nosed 109's, Jules is planning on building one.
Cheers for that lil' bit of info Rick, might be another 109 build on the way

Well, they weren't common, but I have references on several. The most interesting to me is a Bf-109 E-3 of 3./JG 52, Yellow 15 flown by Uffz. Karl Wolff. It was in the RLM 02/71/65 scheme, with a white cowl, rudder, wing & tail plane tips. It also had the distinctive "Running Boar" emblem on both sides of the white cowl. I plan on building that one " Someday".

Regards, Rick

Don't spose you have any links etc with info on these 109's Rick?
And is it a kit that you have, or did you acquire some A/M decals to suit?

I kinda think that the one and only 'clean' 109 I do should be something totally different, and so far a white nose version seems to fit the bill.
Kinda wonder exactly how many variances are out there that noone has investigated yet. Question [?]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 9:50 PM

Sorry Sean, I didn't get them off the internet but from my library. The AC I described is in the excellent Classic Publications' Luftwaffe Colours Book " Battle Of Britain" part 3, Sept-Oct 1040. I'd scan it for you but my Son has my scanner for a project he's working on, leaving dear old Dad scannerless.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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darson

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February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 11:37 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Darren --- any sign of the future yet? kinda has me worried... I was thinking today that the guy at the mail shop didn't have me fill out a customs form like when I mailed Reggie the Aztek I sent him to Singapore... kinda odd... hope it either makes it or comes back to me one of the two!!! I really want to get that to you guys!!!

A big Zip so far Tom, I just rang my wife to check the mail and nothing has arrived yet. Don't worry too much I'm sure it will get here

BTW, I mailed off your care parcel today; there should be enough reference material to keep you going for quite a while. I made sure I included the scans of my Squadron/Signal Typhoon/Tempest in Action for you. Enjoy.

Oh and in case you're wondering, yes I did have to fill out a customs declaration.

Cheers
Darren

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darson

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February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:10 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1
There were white nose 109's???
Well, gonna have to suss that out, had NO idea about that one

I know there were some funky red nosed 109's, Jules is planning on building one.
Cheers for that lil' bit of info Rick, might be another 109 build on the way

Well, they weren't common, but I have references on several. The most interesting to me is a Bf-109 E-3 of 3./JG 52, Yellow 15 flown by Uffz. Karl Wolff. It was in the RLM 02/71/65 scheme, with a white cowl, rudder, wing & tail plane tips. It also had the distinctive "Running Boar" emblem on both sides of the white cowl. I plan on building that one " Someday".

Regards, Rick

Don't spose you have any links etc with info on these 109's Rick?
And is it a kit that you have, or did you acquire some A/M decals to suit?

I kinda think that the one and only 'clean' 109 I do should be something totally different, and so far a white nose version seems to fit the bill.
Kinda wonder exactly how many variances are out there that noone has investigated yet.

Sean I'll check the references tonight and see what I can dig up for you.

Darren

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:29 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

There were white nose 109's???
Well, gonna have to suss that out, had NO idea about that one

I know there were some funky red nosed 109's, Jules is planning on building one.
Cheers for that lil' bit of info Rick, might be another 109 build on the way

Sean i've gone past the planning stage and have already painted the RLM 66 into the interior, I'll probably do the detail work in the pit when i do the Stukas Approve [^]

Hey don't stash that EZ line for a special occasion i have 2 spools of the stuff, more than i'll ever need so if you want some more just drop us a line and i'll send it over Wink [;)]

BTW are you still planning on doing that Sopwith Tri Question [?]

Oh yeah i've never heard or seen of white nosed 109's before either but now you have me intigued so i might have to hit the books too Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:26 AM

OK so i found a white tailed Emil, not just the rudder the whole tail including wings and up the fueselage to those little holes on the panel line, the wingtips are also white but the rest of the A/C appears to be overall RLM 70 uppersurfaces over RLM 65 udersurfaces........
The machine is BF 109 E1Yellow 12 from 11/JG26 operating out of Dusseldorf during Aug 39, it also carriers the Schlageter emblem under the C/pit.......

I'll keep searching for a white nose Thumbs Up [tup]

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tho9900

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From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:21 AM

hmmm do you have the info on that one Jules? me and the town of Dusseldorf have a special connection... wouldnt mind building that one for fun sometime...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:47 AM

Jeez, look what I started. Now we'll have a whole Staffel of white nosed Bf-109's before we know it Smile [:)]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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razordws

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From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:54 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Jeez, look what I started. Now we'll have a whole Staffel of white nosed Bf-109's before we know it .

Regards, Rick

Hmmm... do I smell another possible group build in the making? Someone in the armor page is trying to do a group build where they are doing builds from one specific Panzer Group (12th SS I believe). What would you guys think of picking a specific staffel of 109's and doing them up? Of course this would be after the North Africa GB. BTW has a date been set for that?

Dave

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bobbaily

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From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:04 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by razordws

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Jeez, look what I started. Now we'll have a whole Staffel of white nosed Bf-109's before we know it .

Regards, Rick

Hmmm... do I smell another possible group build in the making? Someone in the armor page is trying to do a group build where they are doing builds from one specific Panzer Group (12th SS I believe). What would you guys think of picking a specific staffel of 109's and doing them up? Of course this would be after the North Africa GB. BTW has a date been set for that?

yeah, I know- I've been looking at the various decal options online for a bf109 build AFTER I get the He111 together, time permitting.

Bob

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:12 AM

Yeah, that certainly has possibilities. I'd be interested for sure.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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jboutin

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Posted by jboutin on Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:30 PM

Razordws, interesting topic, I think I'd go for that, I only have one bf-109 in my collection. Then again I only have 6 models from my previous life worthy of displaying! Big Smile [:D]

Oh boy, oh boy - I'm buying a digital cam this weekend, so soon I can post all the pics I want! Tongue [:P]

instead of borrowing one from work.

The hurricane is coming a long nicely, the wings are almost ready to put on the body and then painting can occur! I took a time out to advance my Typhoon. I should post some pics of it, I totally scratched up the pit on that one but silly me put the seat in crooked and super glue doesn't like to let go! Shock [:O]

I also am bulding some bomb racks which I have to finish before I paint it.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:45 PM

Jay, which camera are you going with ?

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Tankmaster7

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From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:03 PM

so. I don't have much to say, so I'll just babble until I fall over backwards blue in the face. I don't have any bf-109s in my stash. but my stash is very small. 6 or 7 kits. tjhat';s it. yeah. I'll just kep posting here until I hit 1000...

-Tanky

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Tankmaster7

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From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:18 PM

here it is tho. just fer you! The Tankmaster7 award for outstanding generosity!!

-Tanky

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tweety1

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From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:50 PM

Wow, Rick has certainly got some feathers ruffled!!!
In a good way too!!

A 109 GB has been done I'm sure, but to do one showing TOTALLY different versions would be interesting, and could encompass a couple of a/c, like 109's AND ???, just to make it more appealing to others.

Jules, I'll give the EZ a lash on the 109 and see how it goes.
Should be sweet!
Got any pics of the red nose 109 your making, I wanna see a blow by blow album on that one.
And YES, I'm still planning on doing a Sopwith Tri, just recalls a little more b***s than I have atm to do it.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:18 PM

Darren - sorry I neglected to say thank you yesterday... I was typing in between trying to corral Rudy from several misfortunate events he managed to get himself into. (read - the wrath of me! haha) he IS a handful! But thank you... just getting back into the hobby like I have I have few resources beyond the internet so what you did is better than gold! And almost as good as Mrs. Parkers Cheese Roll she brings to Saturday night Bingo at Happy Acres!!!!

Jues et. al. I would also be interested in doing a staffel specific 109 BG... I guess we would have to pick one where there is sufficient data for us to be able to somehow customize each one to represent a different plane??? would be cool... but down the road a bit...

Tweets - Your old school marm passed by Happy Acres again today.. wanted to see you about something you took from her desk in 1979. I told her you were now working at Tony Scarparettos Bakery and all night Pizzeria in Boise Idaho, so she left for the airport...... hope that was ok...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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jboutin

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Posted by jboutin on Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:49 PM

Rick, nothing too special, My wife and I like the HP 3.2 megapix I can't remember the model no., but it is only about 200 $(cdn). I've tested it's zoom function and it gets in close pretty good. I'm don't like really expensive stuff so for now I think it'll do. Big Smile [:D]

I checked on the interweb and it is either the HP M307 or HP M407. It is going to be our Valentines day present to each other. Tongue [:P]

(I really hate comercially constructed holidays but I shouldn't vent on the forum, sorry Disapprove [V]

)

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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cossack

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From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:19 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by razordws

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Jeez, look what I started. Now we'll have a whole Staffel of white nosed Bf-109's before we know it .

Regards, Rick

Hmmm... do I smell another possible group build in the making? Someone in the armor page is trying to do a group build where they are doing builds from one specific Panzer Group (12th SS I believe). What would you guys think of picking a specific staffel of 109's and doing them up? Of course this would be after the North Africa GB. BTW has a date been set for that?

You could potentially extend it to go for two opposing Staffel/Squadrons - representative of a particular air battle on a particular day. Now, the finished models of such a build would make a really cool "Roll of Honour"!!

As to the timing ... I am seeing 2010 being a good target Wink [;)]

Paul