All Subjects - Aussie Group Build 2005

Maybe they are just high on the thinner fumes?

Hmmm you might be on to something there Dave, But i have a feeling it goes deeper than that, call it experience from following these guys around GB's

BTW Dave that A -20 you built for last years GB, What kit was it

Dave, I think you're right.

Jules, this is spooky I was just thinking the exact same thing. What the hell would a new member looking to join this build think

Cheers
Darren

Well Darren it would be conjecture but i think a new member reading our posts would be thinking.........They're all nutcases
BTW hows "Charlie's" convalesence going

Thanks for asking, I sent him to Noosa for the weekend to get some extra R&R.

BTW, I think that the A-20G that Dave built was the AMT kit. Italeri have now re-released it with some Aussie decals included.

Cheers
Darren

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison BTW Tweets how about some pics.................

I was planning on taking some and posting them, but I really wanna leave it till it is complete.
I know thats a little stoopid, but I have some pics of what Academy offered, and when I'm done I'll post em side by side with my meagre effort at scratchbuilding for a total comparison, rather than in progress.

Like I said, it's sttopid, but I reckon it will be 'truer' to the kit.

Did any of that make sense?

::edit:: Forgot to add, we do judge ourselves harsher than others, and I feel a tad 'iffy' bout how the whole thing looks at the moment
We'll see when it's done

Sean, that reminds me of another of Kremps' sayings but we can save that for another time... I am like that, very hard on my builds... I think in some cases thats where I hold myself back... won't try something creative until I have it down on a junk model etc... just think to yourself when you hesitate to do something for being hard on yourself... "What would Kremps do?"

I do like the idea of the priginal concept on the kit then what you produced idea... hmmm... that might be an idea for a GB.. a "before and after" GB... build one kit OOB, the other the way YOU want to modify it...

Darren - as far as Charlie you might want to check in on him... I saw a sock getting arrested on the news that had a stricking resemblene to Charlie... seems he was wandering around downtown, drunk as a skunk and propositioning every pair of fishnet stockings he ran across...

Jules, Darren was right about the kit, it was the AMT offering of the A-20G that Italerie has now re-released. It just had the addition of the True details wheels and liferaft and Aussie Decals markings. Hopefully they release the A-20B/C as well as Highplanes has released some decals for RAAF A-20 B/Cs.

Sean, I totally agree with the 'we are our worse critic' view. My mosquito looks good to most but after I have virtually sanded most of the paint off due to 'inadeqacies' that I found it is looking a bit sad.

Tom, are you suggesting that someone ACTUALY make a kit OOB????

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson Thanks for asking, I sent him to Noosa for the weekend to get some extra R&R. BTW, I think that the A-20G that Dave built was the AMT kit. Italeri have now re-released it with some Aussie decals included. Cheers Darren

Yeah Noosa is nice this time of year
Italeria make it eh, Hmmm i'm not a huge fan of Italeria the plastic seems brittle to me but i definatly want one

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 Did any of that make sense?

yeah Tweets it kinda makes sense, i know where your coming from (East Wing, room 24a, happy acres mental institution)
BTW don't judge yourself too harshly, we are our own worst critics, I've seen many of your builds and i know the 47 is gonna look flash

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 Darren - as far as Charlie you might want to check in on him... I saw a sock getting arrested on the news that had a stricking resemblene to Charlie... seems he was wandering around downtown, drunk as a skunk and propositioning every pair of fishnet stockings he ran across...

Tom out of all of us you would have to be the most mental one
BTW thanks for the laugh

Ahh Dave how well did the kit go together, any fit problems
Hey i just noticed 8 more posts and you'll be getting your 2nd star

Woohoo, only 8 more!

Jules, I only had a few dramas with the kit. The biggest drama was just keeping the engines stuck inside the cowlings as there is no real locating spots for the glue to hold it together. The other drama is the main undercarriage is in the incorrect spot from what I have read. It is apparantly a few mm to the rear of where it should be (I left mine alone).

One suggestion that I picked up from a build on Hyperscale or ARC was with the nose. The nose comes in three peices, two sides and the nose cap as well as the left an dright fueslage halves. The best way to put it all together is to glue each nose half to it's respective fueslage side. This makes it easier to do the required filling/sanding when the fueslage goes together. Doing it the way the instructions say by joining the two halves together then adding them to the fueslage after it's together causes fit problems.

Other than those few areas it went together with little trouble at all and only minimal filler. HTH

Thanks Dave It sounds like a pretty good kit to build i've been thinking of giving the single seat fighters a break after i've nailed a few GB's and start making some twin egined models, i already have the Promodeller ME 410 as well as the Tamiya He 219 and the HAS henschel 129 but i'd like to add the A/20 to the collectin

boy u guys are nuts but this seems the place to be

five looks to me the highest star rate ....whats after that some ones model room

the group build thing please explain to just a box-stock

hay harvs u look like a aj

Jazzbot, a GB iswhen a topic is agreed upon and those that wish to participate in it nominate a model that they want to build relating to that topic eg the Aussie GB. As you build the model you give everyone a update on how you are going and also post pictures if you want to/can. The other advantage is that if you have problems with your build you can ask questions on the GB topic and someone will always be able to help with the problem you have. This also goes the other way where you may be able to help someone else.

QUOTE: Originally posted by jazzbot hay harvs u look like a aj

Funnily enough Jazzbot, I am Only done 18 years at it so far.

iam a ex 2nd cav got out in 86

thanks 4 the info dave regards stoo

Hey Jazz, that sounds to me like you're looking to join our little band? Another member of the group is always welcome.

Cheers
Darren

yeh darren but i need ifo on whats the average time to build plus how to post piccy,s on progress iam on a really project at the moment. regards jazz

i missed out big after really..... communication error... danger will and penny robinson....

Jazz the average time to build really depends on you, I know that fightnjoe turned around a 1/72 Bf109 in about a week for the Battle of Britain GB. The rest of us build as time and motivation permits.
To post pics on this site you need to have them hosted on a website, not on your PC. I use a free service called Photobucket http://www.photobucket.com/ Once you have your pictures in your Photbucket album just copy the Img line into your post. Piece of cake.

Cheers
Darren

Harvs: 1st tip for the Mitchell. I've been caught because there was this RH wall detail for the nose section that wasn't mentioned in the instructions. I assumed it was an error in the script & welded it in place. Only after trying to ad the largish fixed nose gun construction have I realised that it's an alternate to the big nose gun. I wasn't actually sure the RAAF birds had the fixed gun, so now they don't. (It shows as 2 guns coming out of the nose greenhouse, rather than options with 1 or 4.)

Jazz - welcome! a real different bunch here but once you get over the smell, we're not a bad lot! we all take our different times on our builds... I did about 2.5 weeks on my RAF Martlet for the Battle of Britain GB, on this one hitting on 3 weeks and almost done. On the Latin American Airforces GB about 2 months and still haven't got the NMF paint on yet...

oh yeah, after 5 stars you get limo rides all round town and free drinks wherever you go!

Jules - the Promodeler Ju88 is a really nice build, the interior fuselage sidewalls are comparable to resin... seats and some throttle levers and stuff are needed though to make the cockpit complete... Once done it makes a pretty sharp addition to your collection. (also recommend aftermarket decals, the kit ones are good but only give you one possible aircraft to model if I remember right) Also it has the bits to convert it to several different versions of the Ju88, not just the nightfighter...

Dave - what's an aj? educate this Texas boy! and I like the tip you gave for the nose pieces on that kit. It would also work well on the Hasegawa Typhoon Mk.1b The fuselage around the cockpit comes in 3 pieces and once the fuselage is together it was a bear to line it all up... if I had put the on the halves to the fuselage before I closed it I think it would have been a lot better matchup... (the Monogram Stuka had a similar matchup for the upper fuselage aft of the rear gunner and the same would have helped)

Tom the term 'AJ', depending on how it is used just means Army Jerk (or any other combination). It can be an insult or just an easier way of saying that someone is/was in the Army.

Jazz , the length of time for construction also depends on you. I have been making the PR16 mosquito for over 6 months now due to life getting in the way. I usualy end up taking much longer than I should due to work (aaahh the life of an Instructor at an Army School) or just the amount of detailing you want to do, or just being slack.

Dave - yeah I figured it meant something like that after looking at your pic in your profile.. I was thinking armor jockey but I was almost right... question - what is the weapon you are carrying? can't see enough of it to tell...

I was in the military also, I was in the Navy but served two tours with the US Marines on a rapid deployment team. (I was a combat medic and everyone in the Marine Corps has to be able to 1. carry a rifle type weapon which we weren't supposed to, due to the Geneva convention and 2. kill, which for some reason they marked that off the list in medic training as well, so they had to pull from the Navy side for medics, chaplains and such)

funny thing was when I went to FMF training to learn how to walk and talk like a genuine Marine medic, the first thing they taught us to do was rip off the red cross armband before we hit the beach so as not to be a target, act as loader for the heavy machine gun team and how to grab a rifle/MG and wreak destruction on the enemy ( from the first dead guy we saw...)

Having Viet Nam era instructors was a plus... they were less worried about rules and more worried about survival of the medic and the troops...

Tom , how true that is about the Vietnam era instructors. Our medics always carry a rifle no matter where they are as well as get any weapons training they require. Rifles are only carried to defend the wounded as required under the Geneva Convention. In fact the medics in East Timor were critisized as they had their LAV-25/AUSLAVs with the Red Cross on the side of the vehicle and a .50cal MG on the pintle mount. The rifle that i'm carrying is the F88C Austeyr. It's the carbine version of the Australian produced Steyr.

Has anyone ever had a seam that just wouldn't go away? I can't seem to get rid of the seam on the top of the Mosquito even after a number of applications of filler, Mr Surfacer 500 and Mr Surfacer 1000. I now have a 'ghost' seam along the top of the fueslage that won't go away.

thanks to everyone who replied..... its good to know this stuff then u can get on with the job of building , once again thanks guys