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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:23 PM

not a group here that I know of, but there are a lot of latin americans here, I am sure they will find this topic.

It would make an interesting group build idea though. It is where a group of people get togehter and build something of the same subject. Like Latin American models. If you would like to start one I would be there! I would build a Colombian AT-6 SNJ trainer!!!!

My wife is Colombian Wink [;)]

try posting this in the General Discussion topic. under a title like "Latin American Modelers"

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 8, 2004 3:44 AM

I got nearly all the Aztec decals for Peru's AF! In fact, I just posted in the Attack Helo GB that I was thinking of joining with a 1/72 Peruvian Mi-24! ( My girlfriend is from Peru.)

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Wednesday, December 8, 2004 4:29 PM

Dear friends:

Thanks for your response, I am thinking about do you have some Latinamerican models pictures to share with us? Let me find some of mine to show you.

Best regards

Manuel

P.S. Do you think in a Latinamerican Airplanes GB logo? Some suggestions?

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djmodels1999

Member since
December 2002
From: United Kingdom / Belgium

Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, December 9, 2004 1:46 AM

Sounds good, but at this moment, I can not contemplate yet another GB..! Late 2005 would be fine though.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, December 9, 2004 5:16 PM

sure I am in! If I can find the decals, I have a T-6 SNJ just begging to be done in the Colombian AF colors! Spring of 2005 or even closer to summer would be good... a lot of people are finishing up other Group Builds right now so won't be free until then... do you want just aircraft, or all builds, armor, cars etc? people could build what they want... A Land Rover done in the Andean taxi style would look great too!!!

I am not good at group badges but I can play with this a little and see what I can come up with! Unless there is someone else with some experience here?

I look forward to it! In the meantime we can all talk about what we are going to build and maybe build a few models for fun to show our models to each other!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, December 9, 2004 5:26 PM

Ahhh!!! I just clicked on your profile and saw the SBD picture on there!!! I have built 3 of those, and could build another to put it in Latin American markings as well, I love that plane!!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Thursday, December 9, 2004 6:09 PM

Dear Tho9900:

The A-24 picture from my profile comes from an article about how I made my own Mexican A-24, this article is at:

http://www.laahs.com/art21b.htm

and is a part from other brief article about the history of the A-24 at the Mexican Air Force; this article is at:

http://www.laahs.com/art21.htm

Please read other well Latin American airplanes articles, I hope you enjoyed.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, December 9, 2004 7:14 PM

An interesting story Manuel! I knew the Mexican Air Force flew in WWII, but it is very interesting getting more history of this!

An interesting note, my uncle flew in the SBD-3 and maybe the SBD-4 in WWII as a radioman/tailgunner. He ended up in Harlingen, TX teaching aerial gunnery to the SBD and A-24 pilots for most of the war. He got orders to a carrier in the Pacific and as his ship was nearing Hawaii the war ended... We have something in common!

I am looking forward to this GB now... I'll tell my father about it, he is very interested in Latin American history. (he is a translator, Spanish to English for the oil company he works for) Maybe I can get him to building models again as well!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:05 AM

Dear Tho9900:

Your uncle story sound very interesting, in fact, my father flew too in the A-24B during late 40's-early 50's, so you are right, we have something in common...another Latinamerican A-24B used was Chile, but by now I dont have the scheme at hand, but let me search some for you.

Best regards.

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:14 PM

Manuel,

The trouble I am having is finding decals for Latin American aircraft... I might just do an A-37 Dragon Hawk as they have several latin american countries in decals for this. Colombia, Venezuela etc... Other than that it is mostly modern aircraft, which I do occasionally but not much..

I will keep looking, the only decal company out there that seems to deal heavlily in this is Decals Carpena from Canada I believe. their website is: http://www.decalco.com/

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:39 AM

Dear tho9900:

I find at Aztecmodels decals for the A-37 from Dominican Republic, please try:

I hope helps you.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:26 PM

Manuel,

Thanks for the site! I will look through it more later. I see several possible builds in there. It looks good! Looking forward to spring where we can start this!

Tom

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:14 AM

Dera tho9900:

In response to your post: "Ahhh!!! I just clicked on your profile and saw the SBD picture on there!!! I have built 3 of those, and could build another to put it in Latin American markings as well, I love that plane!!!!" I found the other Latinamerican A-24 user, the Chile Air Force, please try at:

http://www.fach-extraoficial.com/ingles/dauntless.htm

this article was writen in english and have good pictures, I hope help to you and to try to build a Latinamerican model.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:55 PM

Well unless something else catches my eye, I plan on building a Colombian T-33 and possibly a Colombian or Venezuealan AT-6. I talked to my father tonight and he IS interested in maybe joining this group build. I am sending the link to this page to him, so hopefully we will have another member soon! It has been a long time since he has modeled, but he used to build models for me when I was young and he did as good of a job on the models with the limited kits and supplies in the 1960's as the builds you see here now!!! He was very patient with his building I must say!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:32 PM

ok Manuel, since we have no takers I will attempt to do a group badge (it may or may not work!)

Any ideas on what it should be? I thought about using flags of different countries, but that would not look good so small... and an Aztec figure would not work as most of S.A. would be more familiar with an Inca motif... just trying to find something common to most of the countries... any help you have would be appreciated!

I am also thinking of doing a P-47 with markings of FAEM esquadron 201 if I can find them or make them.... we in Texas are very aware of them... (being so close to Mexico) ... there was a very big article in the newspaper here in Houston a few years ago about this unit....

here is a short article on them:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FWK/is_n4_v18/ai_19838758

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:41 PM

Ok, how about a start date of Apr 22, 2005? (It's my birthday, no other reason hahaha) Or we could pick 5 Mayo if you think that would be more appropriate!

Tell me what you think, I will go and advertise this in the aircraft section. And try to find the latin american users I know who are here and let them know about it... this will be fun! And definitely something different!

---edit---

I just looked at your profile... I see you are from San Luis Potosi... I know a girl here in Houston from there... she is very nice! The only placed I have been in the interior are San Jose los Cabos en Los Cabos, and in the D.F. I think I enjoyed San jose more... much more friendly!!! But the museo en ciudad de México was wondeful!!!! I loved the history.. we also went to las piramidas Teotihuacán and it was GREAT!!! a truly advanced society! I noticed recently they found some more discoveries there, it will be on television soon and I will watch for it!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Monday, December 20, 2004 5:42 PM

Dear tho9900:

I am thinking about the group badge, and what about a South America profile (Including Central America and Mexico) like a map, wich include letters of the subject, and maybe profiles from most famous aircrafts today: Mexico's F-5E, Venezuela's F-16, Peru's MiG-29, Ecuadorian's Mirage F-1 and so on. About the start date, I am OK, but if some one have suggestions, come on.

I read the Escuadron 201 article and was very nice, let me find pictures of those P-47 wich include Mexican and USA insignias.

Please tell your father thanks to join us¡¡¡¡

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:55 PM

I played a little today, so far all I have is very simple but here is one version I kinda liked the basic format of... still working on it.. I can't find my Photoshop CD since I just reformatted my machine, so I did it in a cheap program, would do the real one in Photoshop so everything is crisper...

it's a start...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:41 AM

Nice job on the badge, Tom! I still haven't decided what to build yet! I want to do something colorful but not too advanced - my airbrush skills are pretty basic! LOL I guess we have some time to think about stuff like that. - Calvin

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:13 AM

I was looking at the F-86 markings from Aztec... a simeple NMF with those colorful decals would look good! I am thinking about it.. likeyou said we have time...

Well..... actually the F-86 was my wife's idea... she decided it was cuter than the Dragonfly I was thinking of building.. Wink [;)]

I dunno I figured she owuld have picked the dragonfly because it's rounder.. like a volkswagen!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:32 PM

Dear tho9900:

Very nice work¡¡¡ its a good start...in the other hand, maybe wee need to think to separate the aircraft and armor Latinamerican Group Build, and once again, some suggestions?

By now, we start first the Aircraft Latinamerican GB and maybe in few months maybe start the Armor Latinamerican GB.

Dear lodni_k thank you for your words, I hope to see in the future a Latinamerican model by you.

Best regrads

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:01 PM

hey Manuel and everyone! Sorry but have been away with Christmas and have only been on a little bit.,..

I will post more tomorrow but I have been talking to some more people and trying to get them in... will let you know tomorrow!!!

This could be a very different build for some people... I hope more will join!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 9, 2005 9:32 AM

I'm already "IN"!! Wink [;)]

I started a Peruvian Hind for the Attack Helo GB & a Fuerza Aerea del Peru Grupo Aereo No. 7 A-10P for the "A-10 What If?" GB! Big Smile [:D]

I still have many sheets & mucho ideas! LOL Tongue [:P]

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, January 9, 2005 10:04 AM

haha you go! I am ordering the decals for the T-6 in colombian clothes, as well as RAAF.. gonna do one of each for this GB and the Aussie GB... I'll have to catch up with ya!

So I guess this answers the questions... start now!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:24 AM

I got my AM P-51C in today! I was planning on doing this bird for the LatinAmerican GB. I'll be putting it in FAD ( Dominican Air Force) markings! I really didn't want to start right away, I'll be leaving for NAS Fallon at the end of Feb. and have (quite literally) about a dozen kits in various stages of construction!! LOL - Calvin

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:48 AM

cool! hey I didnt know you are in the Navy Calvin... ex-Corpsman myself... was in 84 to 94.

I need to go out today and see if I can find decals for 201 esquadron, FAM. the only mexican squadron to see combat in WWII... It'll honestly be my first P-47 ever... might be interesting!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:35 PM

Dear friends:

I have the instrucction sheet fot the lodni_k Hind available at aztecmodels.com:

I will search for a nice picture of the real Peruvian Hind.

Best regards

Manuel

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:38 PM

Dear friends:

I have a very nice picture from the Mexican P-47 over Philipines in the WWII.

I hope do you liked tho9900, please let me find the decals for this model.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:31 PM

ooooooohhhh!!!! thank you Miguel!!! that's an awesome picture!

I will go out and look tonight but I think one of the companies I saw had them... if not I will try to find just the national insignias and print or use from another set the rest!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:53 PM

Great! Aztec Decals "Latin Eagles IV" has the escuadron 201 decals in them... I will try to order them soon as I have the F4F I am building done...

Thanks for the input Manuel! The icture is actually a little different than the decals from aztec, I will probably use the picture for reference. In the decals it shows the MExican Insignia on both wings and body, in the picture it only shows it on the starboard wing, the rest are the US symbols. I will see if I can find more pictures tonight to verify this!

Have you decided what you will buil Manuel?

Something interesting about escuadron 201, we were discussing recently how the Tuskegee Airmen of the US always went places the non-black squadrons wouldn't. (They were a group of black pilots) The 201 also went against targets others couldn't hit, went into impossible odds to complete the mission and they always did! I'll see if I can find a website showing some of the heroic things they did, I was reading it the other night...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:22 AM

You guys are great! Hey, Ya won't believe this, but my fiance actually met the pilot of the Hind that was shot down by Ecuador forces!! My fiance's father retired from Gov't work in Peru, he was also ex-Peruvian Navy and knew Marco Antonio Schenone. She meet him when she was a teenager in about '88 or '89! She's gonna try to get her cousin in Peru to maybe find a way to get ahold of the family and when I get it together I was going to send some pics!
Boy, it really is a small world!!

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:59 PM

ok picked up my Tamiya P47-D, need to get on Aztec's site and order those decals, looking at the end of Jan as a good time to start that one, gives me a whole month before the Aussie GB kicks in... I'm pretty excited about this, might give it to my dad as a gift if it turns out good. (first time using Alclad II)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Monday, January 17, 2005 8:36 AM

Dear friends:

As ask you to me tho9900, my P-47D that I want to build is the old Revell 1/32 with my own decals from those Mexican P-47 who fight in the Philipines along with another old Revell Jeep 1/35 in a diorama, for the Jeep I saw this picture:

By now I want to find pictures of the Jeep because the Revell kit have poor details...let me find the WWII Mexican P-47 decals at 1/48 scale that I have.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, January 17, 2005 9:14 AM

Great Manuel! I have a good source for research for you. This guy has a LOT of material and photos!

it's: http://etoclub.proboards18.com/index.cgi

another forum but moslty devoted to research

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:24 AM

Dear friends:

The decals por my P-47 I have is at:

http://www.eaglestrikeproductions.com/aeromaster/jpg48/ad48029a.jpg

by now I dont find a Mexican P-47 decals at 1/32 for my model, so maybe I must work hard to apply the correct scheme to it.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:59 PM

I found the set on Aztecmodels site I will buy, I don't like using paypal but for this I might... I won't be able to start until I get the kit I am doing now done... but I am looking forward to it! I plan to order the aftermarket parts for this and do it for my dad!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 12:51 PM

Someone should find the Thread in the Aircraft Forum section and bump it. I tried but couldn't find it. Was there one posted? There was some talk about another company (Zotz) that does S. A. & other latin countries sheets. Plus there was questions about a latin american build. - Calvin

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, January 31, 2005 8:59 PM

I don't think there was one Calvin.. (thread in the AC topic) I need to email one of the administrators as I think they consider this a all around GB when it has turned into a "aircraft only" GB... will have to check out the Zotz thing.. thanks for the info!!!

I have the P-47 now.. waiting on decals! just have so many real life and modeling things in the way haven't started! How's your end holding up? Would love to see some pics!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 9:15 PM

I got the kit & the decals but I'm going to be moving to Fallon towards the end of the month. I figured I'd wait till I get there to start! - Calvin

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, January 31, 2005 9:27 PM

wow! don't YOU get involved in Group Builds! I guess I need to add the badge as well as it will advertise the build more...

good luck to you! otnight I have a leaky roof so will not be modeling at least till tomorrow!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Swedish Mick

Member since
January 2005
From: Kopparberg, Sweden

Posted by Swedish Mick on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 4:53 AM

Nice! I want to join! But how the **** will I be able to complete all the interesting GB's?!? I haven't completed a kit for the last four years or so, and now I have four entries in GB's and two more coming in March.
I was hoping that there would be no more intersting GB this year, but it seems like no-one listened Smile [:)]

Oh well, you better put me down for some builds in this GB, then:
An 1/72 Airfix MiG-23 Flogger in Cuban colours and if allowed, a What if, an 1/72 Airfix kit of Saab J35F2 Draken as a San Martin aircraft with Managuayan markings. You don't know where San Martin and Managua is? Somewhere in Central America ...

http://modelbox.free.fr/Tanguy/Tanguy_Objets_P/index.html

Modellbygge iFokus http://www.modellbygge.ifokus.se

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 6:55 AM

great!!! Welcome aboard! yeah I know what ya mean about the group builds... they just keep coming up with bigger and better ones all the time... I am slowly learning to say no though... (ok I only did it once and it didn't make me feel any better but I did!) I guess I need to keep up with what everyone is building and make a list...

Good luck and thanks for coming by!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 8:32 AM

Dear friends:

Welcome aboard Swedish Mick...along some posts, tho9900 tell me about my country Mexico, well, let me show some from my hometown San Luis Potosi:

is a DC-3 at Tangamanga park, using a "soft drink" uniform, in good conditions; I want to share this to all you because is a differente scheme for a great plane, I hope this liked you. In Mexico there are few airplanes museums, but there are a lot of great airplanes on almost all the contry's cities where we can find rarities in good restauration condition like this.

Best regards.

Manuel

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Tankmaster7

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From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, February 3, 2005 9:02 PM

Necesitamos hablar en espanol aqui?

-Tanky

Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, February 4, 2005 6:49 AM

Tanky -Sí tu quieres, pero hablamos inglés tambien...

I have someone interested in joining us, I will email the link here to him... maybe we are picking up some more interested people finally!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 4, 2005 9:32 AM

Thanks of the invitation tho9900!

So yeah, i'm definately IN!

But i'm not sure what aircraft to do. It will definatley be a Peruvian FA aircraft but i'm debating whether to do the Mirage 2000DP or Su-22. I already have all the Aztec decals to its just a matter of which one.

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, February 4, 2005 9:35 AM

great Peruytu! glad to have you with us! We've been hoping to get more people involved and slowly they are starting to show up!

I will order my P-47 this weekend and my decals as well... looking forward to building a "different" P-47!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, February 5, 2005 8:04 AM

Manuel, if you change the title of this GB to Aircraft Latinamerican GB (removing the armor that way) I will email the higher powers and ask them to make a note of it in the aircraft forum. We will get more traffic of people seeing this that way. Just go to the first message you posted in this topic and edit the message, taking out "armor" and it will change the title that way!

Thanks!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 5, 2005 4:49 PM

Welcome aboard, Peruytu! Nice Mig-29 pic. Is that a FAP a/c? I know what you mean by not knowing where to start! I pretty much bought one each of the Aztec line! LOL - Calvin

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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, February 6, 2005 5:06 PM

well finally finished the Martlet (WIldcat in british clothes) for the Battle of Britain group build (Well 98%, just waiting on antenna wire and some final touch ups)

Ordering my decals from Aztec tonight and the P-47 as well... the only AM I am doing on this one besides markings will be an Ultracast resin seat... those things are NICE!!! perfectly molded, seatbelts look better than PE etc... I bought one for the Typhoon I am doing for the Aussie build and am sold from now on!

Will update you when they come in!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 6, 2005 9:00 PM

Thanks Calvin!

That sweet bird is a Mig-29 Fulcrum C from the FAP (Peruvian Air Force). I'm glad you like it... I mean, how can you not like a piece of art as beautiful as that.

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Monday, February 7, 2005 9:16 AM

Dear friends:

I change the title of this GB for jus Aircraft, maybe in the future we start an Armor Latinamerican GB... I just start to build an OOB Monogram's Mi-24 Hind at 1/48 scale with the Aztec decals for the Peruvian Air Force, I have the decals, just I need more modeler time.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, February 7, 2005 5:46 PM

Great Manuel! I ordered my escuadron 201 decals so hopefully will have them soon!! I am excited to start this one... we've picked up a few people since the last time you were here... I'll get this posted inthe Aircraft section for us tonight...

Good luck!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:47 PM

ok!!! I got my P-47 this weekend at the Hobby Lobby 1/2 off sale... I ordered the decals from Aztec and I am waiting on them... in the meantime I am building a Typhoon for the Aussie GB then will proceed to the P-47 and probably a P-51D at the same time for the Tuskegee airman build. The P-51D (Tamiya) looks very basic to put together so I am not worried about stalling on it.. haven't looked at the P-47 yet...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:26 AM

Dear tho9900:

...and talking about the P-51, I think to buil one with Guatemalan markings and a very very interesting Maya nose art. Along time ago I buy the Mayan Gods decals sheet from Aztec to use the Mexican Air Force markings for my Mexican A-24, and this decals include a very well Guatemalan scheme:

by now I dont have the P-51 model, but please can you tell me wich is the best to buy it?

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:39 PM

Manuel

Either the Tamiya or Hasegawa kits are good... just enough detail to make it look right, if you are strong about detail then there are many PE and resin kits to make have more detail.

If you are looking for somewhere to order online, www.squadron.com is a great place with fantastic customer service. Also it is in TX so not too far from you. Plus they always have sales!

Tom

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, February 18, 2005 9:03 PM

ok slight setback but it's worth it.. after getting the Ultracast seats for my typhoon I was so impressed I ordered them for my P-47 as well.. and tires too... those seats are awesone and alone they improve the cockpit 200%!!! will post pics of the typhoon seats as soon as I finish painting them tomorrow... at $4.50 US for TWO seats it is well worth it! for me I am a habitual builder and usually do more than one of the same subject in different styles... so two seats helps out!!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:39 AM

Dear friends:

Great tho9900 for those Ultracast seats for your Typhoon...let me show to all and specially for the Peru modelers fans my next model:

...well, this is the real Hind-25 from the Peruavian Air Force but this pictures is usefull for my Monogram 1/48 scale model, I hope this liked you.

Best regards

Manuel

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:59 PM

oooooh... I like that camoflauge scheme!!!! It is going to look great I am sure!! I will be starting my P-47 as soon as the seat arrives! whould be on this coming Thursday!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, February 25, 2005 6:55 PM

ok it took awhile but both the seat and wheels for my P-47 as well as the decal for escuadron 201 came in! I'll take some pics tomorrow for those of you that haven't seen ultracast stuff... REALLY good looking.. the seatbelts look better than PE in my opinion as they are more 3D looking...

I'm ready to go! I noticed the guatemalan markings look good and I might use those for a later builds. They have a Mayan warrior on the sides of the aircraft.. really nice detail to the decals!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, February 25, 2005 7:05 PM

ok here's who we have building so far and what:

Tho9900 - P-47, escuadron 201, F.A.M.

Swedish Mick - Mig23, Cuba
Saab Draken, San Martin

lodni_k - P-51, F.A.D.

cote1995 - P-47, F.A.M. escuadron 201
Willis Jeep, esquadron 201
?

peruytu - ?

if I missed someone or have the incorrect information on here let me know!

thanks! Tom

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:43 AM

Dear friends:

Please take a look at the FSM Reader Gallery April issue to see my first Latinamerican model I ever made: a T-33 from the FAM, I hope this model likes you.

Best regards

Manuel

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:51 AM

and let me update my models tho9900:

in my workbench:
C-130, Heller 1/72, Mexican Air Force
DC-10, Airfix 1/144, Mexicana de Aviacion
Mi-25, Monogram 1/48, Peruvian Air Force

next:
MD-500, Minicraft 1/48, Mexican Navy
P-47D, Revell 1/32, FAM
Willys Jeep, Revell /32, FAM

next:
Mirage 2000, Revell 1/48, Peruvian Air Force
Harrier, Airfix 1/48, Royal Navy
etc. etc. etc.

Best regards

Manuel

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:57 AM

great Manuel! you must be proud to have a model displayed n the magazine! I have a long time to go before mine get displayed!!!

Thanks for the update... you sound like you have a LOT of kits ahead of you!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:27 PM

ok here are the ultracast seats... these are great for cockpits that already have enough detail but all you need to add are belts... well these (in my opinion) look more 3D than PE. Also the seats of the 3 sets I have bought so far look more realistic also.

Here's the ones for the P-47

its hard to see but that is another ultracast seat behing the P-47 one, for the Typhoon I am building right now... you can see the way the belts flow so naturally on the seats...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Monday, February 28, 2005 6:00 PM

Dear SAWI:

Congratulations for your B-25J from Mexican Air Force:

what kind of decal do you use? The only one I know was the old Lodela kit from Mexico from mid 80's at 1/48 scale...please tell us more about your model.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, February 28, 2005 6:06 PM

Thats a good looking B-25 there Manuel!!! I need to branch out and make more "other country" models...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 3:37 PM

Dear Tom:

The Mexican B-25J come from Jose Luis SAWI Gonzalez from Camp Pendleton,CA, who have some good Mexican models, I hope he join us, just look at:

nice work SAWI¡¡¡¡

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 5:13 PM

wow!!! that is nice.. encourage him to join us! I am sure I could learn some things from him!!!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 10:04 PM

Wow, really great! I'd been looking for info on the MAF T-33 & the NdeM MD-500! Right before I left Japan I bought a Hasegawa 1/72 T-33 specifically to build the FAM T-33, since it was metioned in the Aztec Mexican Air Forces sheet I bought from them a while back. - Calvin

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 11:41 PM

I finally found you guys....I am glad to see that someone is interested in latinamerican armed forces. To answer some of your questions, the decals I used on the B-25 were from a company called LGR in Mexico City (Circa 1991), but the company does not exist anymore. Now we can only hope that Aztec takes over were LGR left. By the way LGR also made decals for the HU-16 Albatross and the PBY-5A of the mexican navy in 1/72 scale. As for the T-33 info, I have recolected some over the years, so I'll be glad to pass it on to whoever is interested.

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 8:48 PM

oooh a PBY-5 would be nice!!! let's hope Aztec DOES come out with more decals!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, March 6, 2005 9:40 PM

ok got the interior sprayed on my escuadron 201 P-47... I must say I am more impressed witht he seats from Ultracast for this one than the seat for the Typhoon... seems to be much more crisp and better detail. Hopefully I will have some painting done tomorrow and can post some picks... but I think I am sold on these Ultracast items...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 7, 2005 11:32 PM

This is the P-47D of one of the mexican pilots of the 201 who got killed in an accident during training in Texas. The model is from Tamiya in 1/48, OOB and the decals from Aztec, finished in aluminum with SNJ ( my favorite aluminum paint)

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 7:00 AM

SAWI - that looks fantastic! That is the same kit I am using for my 201 plane.. I hope mine comes out as well as yours!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 10:33 PM

Just remember to scratch-build and add the dorsal fin on your P-47, since the ones on the Philipines did have it, and the Tamiya model does not include one. Other than that this is one of the best kits made by Tamiya.

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Posted by Swedish Mick on Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:53 AM

Take a look at the brand new Brazilian magazine Plastinet, http://www.plastinet.com.br. Mostly in Portuguese but some articles also in English. A lot of information and walk-around pictures.

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Friday, March 11, 2005 11:53 AM

Dear friends:

By now, I have almost ready all the parts from inside fusealge from my Peruvian Air Force Mi-25, maybe in this weekend I spray it with Dullcote and glued both fuselage halves, by monday I updtae my progress.

Best regards

Manuel

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, March 11, 2005 4:11 PM

great Manuel! I have the interior of my P-47 sprayed and some of the detail painted... this week has not been good for modeling. I have been interrupted so much... Tomorrow I go to buy a new car, Sunday I go to my parents house to install my father's network... so it looks like next week MAYBE I will have a chance. I am going to a networking class all next week and those usually tire me pretty bad so it may be later.

I wish I could work some in between, the P-47 kit is a nice build, like the Tamiya Wildcat kit but more detailed! The only aftermarket pieces I am using is the Ultracast seat and wheels on this.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:39 PM

Gentlemen, where do you get your info to detail the kits like Masters! I went to the FAP site but I can't save any pics from there. And they have some good pics! I just got moved into my barracks room here at NAS Fallon, so as soon as I get set up it's ON!! LOL - Calvin

Dang! Black Eye [B)]

Forgot for a minute that the Tamiya kit I was gonna use for this particular GB is in my packout & won't get to me for about a month!! Banged Head [banghead]

That's OK! I found a nice 1/48 scale sheet for Dominica & Uraguay's T-33s'!! Now all I have to do is get ahold of a 1/48 T-33! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:32 PM

I like the Uruguayan flag... something about that sun...

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, March 18, 2005 8:17 PM

ok I am almost ready to assemble the interior on the P-47... this week I was in class and I got home very tired and didn't get anything done... hope to close the fuselage this weekend.. I really am looking forward to airbrushing this one! I will be using Alclad II and after the finishes I have seen with it I am anxious to get it done!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:53 AM

Dear friends:

I hope to buy today a double action airbrush and maybe in the night, I test it on my Mi-25, altought it need more work in the fuselage halves, maybe tonight I finished the fuselage joints.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:17 AM

Manuel, which airbrush are you getting? Good luck to you! I hope to be able to devote more time to my modeling this weekend.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:30 PM

Wow, Manuel! You've been doing that kinda work w/o an expensive airbrush!? You'll be really fixin' them soon! LOL Yeah, the sheet I got of Evilbay is pretty nice. Microscale's 1/48 Peruvian & Uraguay T-33's. I hope the Hobbycraft T-33 kit is decent. I did manage to find another P-51D on e-bay for cheap ( Hasegawa) so the FAD a/c is still a GO! - Calvin

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:44 PM

ok I have the cockpit basically painted and ready for weathering... will post pics after weathering... I am ready to get moving on this build! in typical Tamiya style the kit seems to be puttingitself together!!

hopefully I can make some major progress tomorrow and Fri as I am on vacation...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, March 25, 2005 4:41 PM

ok the one thing I hate about the Tamiya kits are the instrument panels... I futured mine last week in the P-47, went to put the decal in place (as there is no detail beyond the bezels) and the microsset turned the future cloudy, if it does not turn black again once it dries I guess several washes of very thin black left to dry inbetween would make it black again... (let it run in between the dial bezels and pool so it leaves the dial detail...

just my little rant for the day... if they had detail I could dry brush them or do them with silver pencil and not have to go through this....

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:59 AM

I just found out a movie about escuadron 201 is to be relased on May 15th... I'll be buying it for sure!!!

here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007QJ1QQ/qid=1111859441/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl74/104-2804918-8468732?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Monday, March 28, 2005 2:26 PM

Dear tho9900:

Thank you for the link, I hope to buy this movie to include it in my personal library...and for those about the LAGB, I salute you:

please visit my last work at Fine Scale Modeler magazine in the May issue: FAMous F-5E Tiger II article, in fact, you can read it here at Feature Stories link at upper left.

I hope you enjoi it.

Best regards

Manuel

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Swedish Mick

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Posted by Swedish Mick on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:05 AM

Even if it's a bad picture, it shows some progress of my Draken.

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tho9900

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:32 PM

cool ... thanks for the pics Mick! from what I can see it is looking good!!!!

I closed the fuselage on the P-47 tonight and begin working on the engine tomorrow... I am picking up a little momentum as this kit is soooo nice to build!!! (Tamiya's P-47 Bubbletop)

I have some pre pics of the cockpit before I finished -- here is one:

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:26 PM

what colors did you use? nice work. I will use this as reference for when I build mine.

-Tanky

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:53 PM

your P-47 or Draken?

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:20 PM

I was talking about your 'pit Tom. But nice work on the draken to swedish mick. (I think. can't really see much)

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Posted by Swedish Mick on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:13 AM

Thanks! I will try to get better pictures next time ...

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:51 AM

Tanky - on the interior I used MM Forest Green with a tiny drop of black, that got me the closest to the paint chip I could get... the brown is MM flat dark tan (harnesses and control stick boot) red acrylic for the nobs, a silver art pencil did all the IP and radio knob detail... I used the kit decal for the IP dials and actually it went down pretty good... this is the first one I have seen that I actually was somewhat satisfied how it looked...

I did a light wash of paynes grey and in some places added a light wash of burnt umber.. both water soluable oils...

--edit--

there are some knobs and levers not painted in the pic that got painted after I took it... all in all a very nice OOB cockpit! I plan on adding another of these to my list.. done in escuadron 201 colors as well.

I am donating the next one to an elementary library near me. The school is about 85% Mexican children from migrant families and none of them had heard the story of escuadron 201... I want to build another one with a pamphlet with their story in it for display in the library there...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, April 8, 2005 7:56 PM

ok ... the P-47 is nearing completion... I have the fuselage closed, the winges ready to cement on and the body sanded and ready to polish.. I should be able to prime it tomorrow and use the Alclad on sunday... after that I expect about a week of putting the exterior pieces on and I will be ready for decals next weekend...

This has been a very nice build, I really like this Tamiya P-47 Bubbletop kit!!! I'll try to take pre-painting pics tomorrow...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:30 AM

Great jobs, everyone!! I am getting kinda antsy for my stuff to get here from Japan. I bought a P-51 off Evilbay but it hasn't got to me, either. I hope Monday it will get to my shop so I can start something!! LOL - Calvin

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:13 AM

I know the feeling Calvin - I hate waiting for things...

Well sprayed the Alclad black primer last night and it went on smooth as glass... I did notice a spot on one wing I need to touch up. I might even use the alclad gloss black primer as a subsitute for any gloss black subjects I am spraying... it look sbetter than ordinary enamel. I also bought the Alclad airbrush cleaner and I highly recommend it... it cuts through Alcladlike water! The inside of my pipette was black where I drew up the paint to put in the airbrush, when I drew up some of the airbrush cleaner into it the black just ran off the walls of it and settle into the tip. no shaking or anything to get it to dissolve like enamels and such. It's basically Acetone and toluene. Might see if I can make a home brewed batch of it one day as it was a bit expensive (like $5.00 for 3 ounces)

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:45 PM

ok everything is all nice and black now... waiting on the primer to dry then I am hoping to have time to start with the alclad tomorrow... Unfortunately I went to the ultracast wite today and I did not realize the extent of resin available for the P-47, and had I realized this kit was as nice as it is I would have bought more resin as the Ultracast really sets things off...

As far as the stabilizer fillet, I found several photos of Es. 201 aircraft without them, taken in June 1945 so I am going to model this one as is... I will try to model it corrected on the next one which I will be making for the local elementary.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 22, 2005 6:07 PM

The mexican navy had a few of these up to the 80's. This is the Monogram Kit in 1/72 scale made OOB.

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, April 22, 2005 6:37 PM

very nice SAWI!!

Well my P-47 is on hold... the alclad black laqcuer primer still feels a bit "sticky" although a lot dryer than the other day.. I think I sprayed it too think the second time. I will wait and see what tomorrow is like, I might even spray it anyway as I have a second P-47 kit, and extra Ultracast seat and the tires arent mounted yet. If the paint messes up I can always do a second one in time for the build.

This time I think I will use MM Gloss black like someone in another GB recommended to me... the Alclad primer seems to not want to dry in this humidity.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:02 PM

Nice pics, SAWI !! Not much to report here. I did get my household goods from Japan finally on Friday. And I've been up to my eyeballs (quite literally!) in boxes! LOL There's like 50 mid-sized boxes in my barracks room now. Hope there's no inspections anytime soon! - Calvin

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Posted by Swedish Mick on Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:44 PM

Thanks to balta1, who has extended the building time in the Chinook GB, I can continue my work on the Cuban MiG-23 and other builds without feeling the panic.

The MiG-23 is now assembled and halfway painted. Thanks to the replacement services of Airfix, I have a new canopy, and thanks to Janne Holmqvist, I now has some Cuban decals and tailflags.

The Managuayan Draken is also under progress and undercarriage is to be attached next.

@ cote1995:
Is there a final building day decided? I don't seem to find it anywhere. If it is sometime in Sep-Oct put me down for a 1/72 Revell 4381 as a Saab 35GT Draken in FAV markings and camo scheme, circa 1971. It's a "Could have been" ...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:53 PM

I finished my last two P-47's mexican air force to join the trainner I showwed earlier; both are Hasegawa kits in 1/48 scale OOB, with Aztec decals.

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cote1995

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Posted by cote1995 on Monday, May 2, 2005 2:38 PM

Dear firends:

Thanks SAWI for the Mexican Navy and the P-47 pictures, there are very nice, and about the Swedish Mick comment on a final building day I dont kown, but any suggestions? Or maybe a time period, I mean six months or so? I dont want to say something becuase I dont have some much time for models, maybe three or four models a year is my production rate and I just use five or seven hours a week to modeling so I spend some months for a model, but if some want to add dates to this GB, please go ahead.

Best regards

Manuel

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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 2, 2005 8:20 PM

Manuel - I am fine with the dates as they are (none!) I am limited in my modeling time until this summer as well so I think it would work well for all of us. If we see we are coming to a point where we all might finish soon we can set a date. As there are only a few people I don't think this will cause a problem. Does anyone else feel different?

P.d. - I am almost ready to spray the P-47 with the Alclad. I used the Alclad black primer and it has taken several weeks until it doesnt feel "sticky" to the touch.. I used a 2000 girt sanepaper over it and will go back and polish it some more but now it feels ok.

Hopefully this weekend I will show some results!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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taxtp

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:26 AM

Hi,
I think I could be tempted to do a Uruguayan Hellcat in 1/72. I'll hae to use spares box decals as I don't think this subject is covered, but I'd be delighted to stand corrected. When is the closing date for this GB ?
Cheers
Tony Mollica

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:43 PM

Tony - as of yet there is no end date, as there are only a few of us and a lot of us are tied up with other GB's we decided it best to keep it open.

I'd love to see the Uruguyan Hellcat... (I dated a Uruguayan girl once... special connection) have you checked aztecmodels.com and decalscarpena.com? they both have a good selection of Latin American decals... if not for the specific plane I am sure you can find something comparable in scale and do the codes and such on your own...

Welcome!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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taxtp

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 7:08 AM

I did have a look at Carpena and Aztec last night, but didn't see anything. Microscale had some national markings on a sheet for T-33s or something, which I have. I'll pinch them and source the codes from somewhere else, as the few photos I have don't show any particular decorative markings.
Cheers
Tony Mollica

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taxtp

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:25 AM

I have included a link to some photos of Uruguayan Hellcats. I hope you find them interesting. I also have a few others. It's also got lots of other stuff re Uruguayan aviation.

http://www.pilotoviejo.com/

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Tony Mollica

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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 9, 2005 12:38 PM

Cool... thanks Tony!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 9, 2005 6:23 PM

Great link, Tony! I may do an Uruguayan T-33 w/ those nice reference pics! - Calvin

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taxtp

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:28 AM

Calvin,
Superscale sheet 72-409 has decals for a Uruguayan T-33. I have it but I need to pinch the national insignia for my Hellcat.
Cheers

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:43 PM

I've been contemplating doing a Colombian AT-6 and Colombian or Venezuelan Dragonfly lately. www.aztecmodels.com has the set for them both. My wife is from Colombia and her sister in law from Venezuela so I could do them for them!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Monday, June 27, 2005 7:09 PM

Dear friends:

Let me show you: a real P-47 from the FAM's, a very nice color picture:

weel, is a 1/6 scale RC model airplane from my friend Jesus Castro from Tuczon, AZ, I hope do you liked.

Best regards

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:01 PM

thanks Manuel! I would love to see that in person. There was an airshow here in Texas a few weeks ago and an original member of the 201 escuadron was there. I was not able to make it but I would have loved to have been there and met him!!!!!

I will be working on my P-47 soon. Work is very busy and I am behind on my current kit of a Martlet Mk.III from the North African battles in WWII.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, August 1, 2005 7:52 PM

ok, I am back from the dead! Big news is as soon as I finish the FW-190 I am building I am starting on the SECOND P-47... the first I used the Alclad black primer on and it never cured correctly, well I think it finally did but the model is dusty now and I don't trust the primer.

I will prime this one with Model Master Gloss black or even Tamiya plastic primer as Alclad suggests...

I want to do this one for a classroom for recent immigrants at a school near here. I went there to fix a computer there recently and none of them, and none of their parents had heard of escuadron 201... I need to fix that!!! (not even the teacher had heard of them!!!)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 2:43 PM

Dear tho9900:

It's hard to beleived how so much people unknow his own history, in this case, the Mexican people have litlle know about his WWII heroes...Mexican historians like Santiago Flores, Mardonio Islas, the fine America Vuela magazine and so on, keep busy searching about the 201's Mexican pilots -and other aviation histories- to know more and more about the great Latinamerican pilots.

Thank you tho9900, because you are doing your contribution overseas from Mexico.

Best regards.

Manuel

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 7:47 PM

Manuel - what is amazin is last year one of the children I talked to was from near where one of the 201 airmen now lives according to the internet! (Nuevo Laredo) and still they had no idea! I have talked to children and parents from places like Mexico City where the monument is in the plaza near the tribute to 'los seis heroes' is and they still did not know of them.

I learned of them at an early age when it was printed in our newspaper here. When I found there were markings for the unit I was glad to do it as I was surprised at how few here in the United States (especially Texas) know about them.. and even more surprised at how little the people here from Mexico know of them!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Saturday, September 10, 2005 10:37 AM

Dear friends:

Lasth month was a contest model at Guadalajara City, wich include a trip to the Mexican Air Force Base No. 5, and plese let me show some models with Latinamerican scheme:

this model from my friend Roberto Cerda

and this one is scrathbuild

I hope do you liked.

Best regards Manuel

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taxtp

Member since
April 2005
From: Australia

Posted by taxtp on Monday, October 24, 2005 7:48 AM

Hi,
Are we still going here ? I'm working on my Uruguayan Hellcat at long last.
Cheers
Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, October 24, 2005 7:34 PM

hey Tony!!! yeah I'm still in... I am really itching to build the Escuadron 201 P-47 but waiting till I get a few more NMF kits under my belt. I am experimenting with what combination of primers and spray tachniques on a few GB's I am in.. I really want to do this one nice because I am donating it to a classroom for new arrivals from Latin America... I'm going to get a small glass case and all to go with it...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, October 24, 2005 7:35 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cote1995

Dear friends:

Lasth month was a contest model at Guadalajara City, wich include a trip to the Mexican Air Force Base No. 5, and plese let me show some models with Latinamerican scheme:

I hope do you liked.

Best regards Manuel

Thanks for the pictures Manuel! I like that first aircraft, what is it?

I also like the trainer... it is VERY well done!!! especially for scratchbuilt! I noticed the O2 hoses and all inside... very detailed!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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taxtp

Member since
April 2005
From: Australia

Posted by taxtp on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:23 AM

Hey Tom,
Good to see you're still in. I've been wanting to do this Uruguayan Hellcat for a couple of years now, so lets go for it. I'll look forward to seeing that T-Bolt, NMF and all. I've not tried Alclad II myself yet, so I'll have to move in that direction soon.
Cheers
Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:33 PM

Tony - Alclad2 is a dream.. once you learn it... I found that for me using future as a base (thinned future at that.. I thin it with Tamiya Acrylic thinner) and spraying it at about 15psi I don't get any grainy areas and it goes down like GLASS... then once you put the Alclad over that it is as shiny as... well it's really shiny. and uniform...

Now that I seem to have mastered the technique (1.5 bottles of Alclad and $13,00 later Wink [;)]

) I am ready for the Jug... I've really wanted to build this for awhile... as soon as I found out there were decals for it I bought them. I just remember how surprised I was to find out Mexico fought in WWII when I was a kid. It always stuck with me based on that newspaper article honoring them I read...

And as was discussed earlier... I have a special fondness for Uruguay. would love to see that Hellcat!

---edit--- will be starting the P-47 within the next week... will post plenty of pics as I go!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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taxtp

Member since
April 2005
From: Australia

Posted by taxtp on Saturday, October 29, 2005 12:45 AM

Hi Tom,
Hadn't heard of using Future under it, must give that a try. I had heard of people having trouble with the Alclad black primr, or whatever it's called. I might use that technique to gloss over the Hunter I'm building for the Belgian AF GB. It's ready to decal once I gloss it so I'm off to try it right now !
Cheers
Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:35 PM

Tony - Future is one of the primers Alclad lists for non-shiny finishes of its' products... A nice shiny futured surface really gets a nice glow out of the Alclad... I tried the Alclad2 black primer but after 2 weeks (and more) it would leave fingerprints in it if I touched it... I had to ditch the jug I was originally doing for this one because of that... I tried MM gloss black but again I had some small grains in the paint with it... so the future seems to do the trick. They also recommend auto primer gone over with 2000+ grit sandpaper to get it glossy..

Well I'm too lazy to sand that primer so future is my route!

And as far as providing a gloww coat I think the thinned future is the way to go too! I willl post pics tomorrow of my F3F I am doing for another GB and let you see if it is for you based on how it looks...

---edit--- many typos...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:40 AM

It has been 4 months since the last post...is this GB still going on?

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:18 PM

It is still in my mind if not on my modeling table! Things have been busy here... we had a hurricane in September which took the roof from my modeling room. In October my mom had surgery, etc.. etc.. things are finally becoming normal again so hopefully I can fit this build in.

Thanks for reminding me though! It's in the back of my head to do it I just never seem to get there...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 23, 2006 11:03 AM

Sorry about the Hurricane Tho I hope everything is better now.

I also have a bunch of proyects, but you know how it is...one thing or another... I just finished a SBD-5 of the US Navy with Mexican markings, the colors are NS Sea Blue/Med Blue/white, but with mexican triangles and tricolor band on the rudder.

These airplanes were used to train the Mexican pilots in San Diego, Ca.

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Monday, January 23, 2006 7:05 PM

SAWI - with the triangles on both wings, or just one with the US star on the other like the 201st had on their planes in the Phillipines? I have an extra SBD I could do that on with another set of decals from Aztec... the P-47 and the SBD have roughly the same size wings so the measurements should be correct.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:55 PM

Well a year and a half later I actually have begun my kit... so far I've been working on the cockpit, I am trying a few new things and also trying to get out a modeling slump I had been in. I was rushing to finish models with no enjoyment at all.

Here is the cockpit in progress, some obvious things like painting the part of the seat support below the seat have yet to be done. (I used the Ultracast seat with molded in belts and the lower parts of the supports broke when I tried to free them from the mold so I cut the legs from the kit support and glued them to the seat. I have yet to paint them.

Nothing is glued together yet, it is just placed together for pictures.

The seat:

Right side:

Left Side

Instrument panel, I used the kit decal for the IP, I am ordering a punch and die set so I am anxious to see what I can do for the IP's with that.

I should be done with the cockpit this week and on to gluing the body together! I am not sure if I will stick to the whole Aztec models set of decals (with all FAM markings) or use some kit decals to represent a plane used during the war. I am using the Tamiya P-47D Bubble top kit which is a P-47D-30 RA so I might go for the "Adele" markings in the AM decals.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

AIRCRAFT - Latinamerican Air Forces

Posted by cote1995 on Friday, March 23, 2007 11:06 PM

Hello folks¡¡¡

Afther some much months I'am here, I hope to all of yours wish to continue this Group Build, by now I have finished a C-130 Hercules at 1/72 scale from the Mexican Air Force and a Mi-25 Hind at 1/48 scale from the Peruvian Air Force, let me some days to put here some pictures... and what about the models from al of your? Please let me see your works¡¡

See you

Manuel

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:50 PM

I AM SORRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THE FSM FORUM, BUT I AM HERE, TRY TO RESCUE THIS GROUP BUILD, ANYONE TO BE INTERESTING TO JOIN IN THIS LATIN AMERICAN GROUP BUILD? ARMOR AND ARIPLANES?

ALL FRIENDS WHO WRITE FOR THIS GP, CAN WRITE AGAIN AND RE-JOIN US?

BEST REGARDS

MANUEL GUAJARDO

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JMart

Member since
March 2007
From: NJ

Posted by JMart on Friday, September 12, 2008 8:23 PM

manuel, muy bien... maybe you should post a general feeler out in the aircraft forum to re-start a new GBs.. but many are in progress, not sure how many you will get in. I would love to join suc a GB ut cant for a few months :(

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cote1995

Member since
December 2002
From: Mexico

Posted by cote1995 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:35 PM

THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE JMart, I HOPE SEE IN THIS FORUM SOME OF YOUR MODELS.

I TAKE YOUR IDEA TO POST IN THE AIRCRAFT FORUM TO NOTIFY TO OTHER MODELERS.

BEST REGARDS

MANUEL

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Swedish Mick

Member since
January 2005
From: Kopparberg, Sweden

Posted by Swedish Mick on Monday, December 8, 2008 4:04 PM

Manuel,

I still have my two builds in progress but both are pretty close to be ready soon.

If you restart this GB or start another one, do count me in. I have more projects to be built.

Modellbygge iFokus http://www.modellbygge.ifokus.se

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