12SS GB: 'Blood and Honor' (March 30th 2005- Sometime)

gringe88

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July 2004
From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...

Posted by gringe88 on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:46 PM

sure snegron, a jagdpanzer is perfect! they had those. nice snag on the book too. i put up a list of books and sites that could be useful on the first page down a little. i also found another title i might put up:

SS-Hitlerjugend: The History of the Twelfth SS Division 1943-45
by Rupert Butler from Casemate

picked it up at NOREASTCON. a nice book, not too many pics, but still a good read.

[edit]- BTW, scott you using two names here?

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-Matt

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:08 AM

Hey All,

Just wanted to see how everyone is doing. I am still trying to finish my Amphib GB before I start this one. So.....no progress yet. Hope all is well.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 23, 2005 7:20 PM

Hi. All.
getting ready to add the final pieces to the interior then get it all primed and ready for the base coat sould have it ready to do by Thursday-Friday at the latest.
Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 29, 2005 3:13 PM

Question... i have a TO&E that states the 12th had a verry limited number of 251s with the 3.7 AA. unfortunaly i cant find a pic. so i am asking for a ruling, should i go with the TO&E or pick another sub. i havent started yet because of the research ,so if i start over
no big deal.. thanks for any input and comments in advance

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:58 PM

Hi.clint.
You'll find that the vehicle in question is not the 251 but the Sd.Kfz.7/2 as the 251 would have been too small to mount the 3.7cm on it . the other main AA carriers the unit used were the Sd.Kfz. 7/1 with and without the Armoured Cab ot the /2 also they had the Flak 38(t) along with some 251/21 Drillings.
Hope that this has been of some help to you
Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:51 PM

thanks panzermann for the info. i miss-spoke, when i used the 251 designation. my main concern is the lack of photographic evidence of their use. if you or anyone else could help in this i would be very grateful.i have checked the books in the original thread above but couldnt find anything on this vehicle.
thanks again,
clint

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 30, 2005 3:57 AM

Hi. clint.
There's some reference pics of the 12th. using the Sd.kfz.7/1 in Normandy, but the only reference I've got is from the Battles around Budapest where they were used in both the AA and Ground roles.
Hope this helps you to decide.
Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 6, 2005 7:20 PM

Hi. All.
A quick update all the sub assy are all sprayed dark yellow have started to paint the individual pieces of the interior ie; seats the radio instalation will be painted tomorrow along with the driver's controls and the dash and front armoured glass of the drivers vision block.
Hopefully there should be final pics posted within the next 10 days.
Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 11, 2005 8:47 AM

Hey All,

I havent been around for awhile. Had a family emergency. Hopefully I will be able to get back to modelling real soon. Due to the emergency, I havent had a chance to do a thing lately. Actually more like a month! I just wanted to check and see how everyone was doing. Hope all is well. Take care.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 13, 2005 4:23 PM

Hi. All.
Quick update from over the pond.
Cammo scheme done, interior to be weathered,will be putting washes on the vehicle in 2 - 3 days once the matt coat has dried then I get some pics onto the site,
Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 13, 2005 7:20 PM

I wish to join with a 234/2 puma and is different than the model to join the 234 GB ( 234/1 )

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gringe88

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July 2004
From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...

Posted by gringe88 on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:50 PM

hey guys. glad to see everyones coming along. sorry ive been away so long, i had to finish up school and some other stuff.

panzer67- thats great, just as long as you have references that of the vechile you are building, or one similar to it. i also don't really mind if yopu use it in another build, i just put in that law to prevent some real cheaters from screwing around and boasting about how many builds they're in. so Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:09 AM

hi guys did the hj have panzerjager lang 70's??

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:56 AM

gringe88 and others,

Thought I would mention that I was in Borders Book Store last night. There I found volume two of a book called 12 SS. Not a lot of photos but more of a story line about them. I might make a purchase in the near future. It is made by the same company who published Tigers in the Mud and Armour Battles of the Waffen SS. Anyways, there it is.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:46 PM

hi. all.
Have just finished the SdKfz 251/9 will post some pics on Monday after the Club show.
Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:22 PM

Damn you Panzermann!!! Must be nice. I havent even had a chance to start yet. Of course you know the year I have been having!!!!

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gringe88

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July 2004
From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...

Posted by gringe88 on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:43 PM

pg- yeah, i found volume 1 of that same set at my local borders. a very nice storyline like you said, but not many pics. i picked up a new publication from a publisher(?) called Battlefield Europe, on Operation Bluecoat. lots of good pics. theres another book i have on the fight for Hill 112 another very good piece, with a diagram of the battle for villers-bocage, and pics and info concerning the 12 SS as well.i might do an infantry pair vignette about that as well.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:36 PM

Hi.panzer_grenadier.
Yes they did have the Jagdpanzer Lang but only a few were issued to the Panzerjager Kompanie when they entrained to Hungary.
Hope that this is a help to you.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:42 PM

Hi. "smokin"
OK you can take those pins out of that effigy you've done of me as I've had nothing but bother with my back.
I Will post the pics over the next day or so, I've also managed to get a HitlerJugend figure from the club show which I will add to the 251/9 over the next few days but will place onto the vehicle for the pics.
Happy Modelling
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:46 PM

Panzermann,

Dont lie!! I know it was you. Oh yes....I know it was you!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:48 PM

To All,

Yes I am still around, I swear! Been having another busy week. Damn that stupid job! Been in a conference all week and then on vacation. Next week I start to build again!!! Or so I think.....

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:39 PM

Hi. All.
Here's the first of my finished build pictures sorry for not posting any before now but have been busy with some other matters,
Hope that you like them ?
The 251/9 is the old Tamiya kit with pieces added from the new Dragon 251 3 in 1 kit
Pieces used were:
Radio instilation,ammo and ready box, Large ammo box as the kit one is molded closed, the folding seat for the radio operator and the Eduard etched set for the 251/9.

Happy Modelling.
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:54 PM

Hi All.
Here are the remaining pics enjoy.

Happy Modelling
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 24, 2005 2:32 PM

wow great work, really well done on the interior and camo.

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gringe88

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July 2004
From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...

Posted by gringe88 on Friday, June 24, 2005 3:41 PM

very nice panzermann. really well done. if ytouve got any in progress pics please try and post um id love to see the work that went in

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:09 AM

Hi.gringe88.
Sorry got no progress pics as I've been having some problems with my photobucket albums. Ashamed [*^_^*]

Happy Modelling
Regards panzermann.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 9:40 PM

Panzermann,

I have already seen them but am still amazed. Very nice work.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 6:57 AM

hey guys sorry for the long time for a reply thanks for the info panzermann, also guy i had some free time this week and i built the old tamiya pak 40 im goin to put it in a lil dio it would be of the HJ anit tank team in cean so i'm goin to do the base coat and hopeful have it done soon('er' or later)
Az Eight Ball [8]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 11:53 AM

excellent panzermann!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 15, 2005 1:55 PM

Hi. All.
Thanks for your comments just to let you know I entered the 251/9 in a local model show competition and recived a 1st for the model. Big Smile [:D]

Hope that you all enjoy your builds.
Happy Modelling.
Regards Panzermann.

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