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                        Young Guns GB #2

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                        gringe88
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                        • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
                        Posted by gringe88 on Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:47 AM
                        id definitely keep the hedgerows at least on the side the tanks on, yeah. i guess what i meant is that you dont want people to miss things. theres certain visual paths that the eye tends to follow, like lines. for instance, moving from left to right (since this is how most of us read, and thus look at the world if you think about it ) you can use things like the tank turret, figures pointing, tree branches, and even the gaze of a figure to help move peoples eyes across the diorama, so that they take in everything. making these paths almost circular will help people remain focused on the diorama so that they keep seeing details. actually if youve got shep paines book on building dioramas i dont need to explain it to ya, just check out the chapter on laying out a dio.

                        BTW, good choice with the halftrack
                        ====================================== -Matt
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:10 AM
                        Making the road narrower and knocking off some of that space in the back is a deffinite possibility. Probably will do that. Hedgerows will stay no matter what, I eliminated the ones on the other side for viewing. The hedgerow is a very important aspect in the dio.

                        I want people to be drawn away from everything, the theme is almost more than one.

                        I will deffinetly think this over before I begin construction. I think Im going to go with the AFV club 251 d to fill up the space.
                        John
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                        gringe88
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                        • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
                        Posted by gringe88 on Friday, July 22, 2005 8:36 PM
                        i would add another vehicle in that format. id also think about bringing the dio closer together. spreading things out, while technically mroe realistic, actually hurts the dio in the long run. people's attention is drawn away by different things, and it can become hard to understand whats going on. so try to pull the dio in closer. id also think about ditching the hedgrows on the side opposite the one the tanks on. it has a tendency to block peoples view, and in the end its a lot of dead space to fill.

                        my two sense...
                        ====================================== -Matt
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, July 22, 2005 4:51 PM
                        Ok, I fixed it.

                        oh, and I d like to apologize, Im not very good at using paint.
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 22, 2005 3:17 PM
                        Yep there's just a red X, but the background storey sounds good and interesting!
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 22, 2005 3:02 PM
                        Just a red X...
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, July 22, 2005 2:50 PM
                        ok here it is.



                        Color code-
                        red dots, Figures
                        blue square, possible new vehicle location
                        yellow rectangles, deffinite vehicle positions.
                        Lime green- Hedgerow
                        Yello beyond hedgerow- grassy field
                        Black line, Ditch

                        Some note and a general story line. June 12 Normandy 1944 ss pz Abt 101 kompanie "?" Preparing for an assualt on the Villers Bocage area. on the opposite side of the tank, Wermacht infantry is pulling to the rear for some R&R. On the other side, Some fresh SS grenediers are resting and waiting to move out. 2 messengers on a BMW are asking a Wehrmacht stragler for directions.

                        need honest opinions here guys, what do you think of the possible vehicle location? Also, see any boring spots?
                        John
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, July 22, 2005 2:28 PM
                        Gringe, Its a Tiger, Opel, BMW w/ side car and Possibly a - kuble, Sdkfz 251/1 Ausf D, or a Horch 1a with Flak 38 in tow. I'm not sure If Im going to add one of them and If I do which one? Sorry, I forgot the drawing again.
                        John
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                        ygmodeler4
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                          October 2004
                        • From: Northern Virginia
                        Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, July 22, 2005 1:35 PM
                        See ya Im going to Indiana.Big Smile [:D]

                        -Josiah

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                        gringe88
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                          July 2004
                        • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
                        Posted by gringe88 on Friday, July 22, 2005 9:48 AM
                        the bunker's actually made by this small company, tiger productions. its a 1/72nd scale piece, and while in the end i think it will look nice, certain features leave me questioning. firstly, its an odd shape for a turret bunker. although you could say the same for verlinden's equivalent. next, he added stairs on the outside, which i dont think ive seen on any bunker before, unless its an open toped thing. the roof was also made too thin, and lastly the casting, while alright, has got a lot of bubbles pockets, especially in the turret itself.

                        reb- how many other vehicles are gonna be in the dio? the tiger opel and kubel, or is there something im missing?
                        ====================================== -Matt
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:55 PM
                        I have to start over, Wonderful California Blackout took out the power for awhile. I'll get it up.
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:00 PM
                        Do you have any pics of it yet?
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:29 PM
                        thatsexactly what Im thinking, It might be overkill.
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:28 PM
                        I suppose it depends on the size of the diorama and whats already on it , as you probably don't want to over crowd it!
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:24 PM
                        for those of you who remember about my dio I am planning, Scratch the drawings I made. The effect was not good and neither was the balance. I have remade the drawings and I am pretty pleased with it. Its now based on actual terrain, not my imagination. I'll draw one on paint. Only problem I have is that I cant decide to put in a halftrack or not.
                        John
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:24 AM
                        gringe, is the bunker Verlinden?
                        John
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                        gringe88
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                          July 2004
                        • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
                        Posted by gringe88 on Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:07 AM
                        well, unless next year my family makes kansas city its vacation spotDead [xx(] I won't be going to the nats for quite some time. this year would probably have been the best chance, but i couldn't make it. hope you had a good time tanky!!

                        as for builds, the virginia and monitor are both painted, now being weathered, and the turret bunker is progressing well as well.
                        ====================================== -Matt
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:11 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

                        Reb i hopethe nats will be in cali in 2007. I'm going to atend the meeting where the avrious cities put in their bids (IPMS members only) so I'll let you know what happens when I get back.



                        Tanky that would be great! Man your going to have so much fun! Be sure to hit every vendor table, and bring an empty suitcase cuz when you leave for home you'll need the extra space!Big Smile [:D]


                        Nick, Stockton is about a 2 to 3 hour drive into fresno. I bet its going to go to OC though. Las Vegas and fresno are easliy in the 100's degrees in the summer, OC is about 70!
                        John
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:07 PM
                        Reb i hopethe nats will be in cali in 2007. I'm going to atend the meeting where the avrious cities put in their bids (IPMS members only) so I'll let you know what happens when I get back.

                        I personally am rooting for Las Vegas-... for various reasons.... hehehe. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)] just kidding.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        ygmodeler4
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                          October 2004
                        • From: Northern Virginia
                        Posted by ygmodeler4 on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:00 PM
                        Yes please do tanky. While your at it buy me some cool models please?Big Smile [:D]

                        -Josiah

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:52 PM
                        Thanks Tanky!
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:49 PM
                        OK, I leave in less than 12 hours!!! really early morning flight.OH YEAH!!!!!!!!! And dragon expo has 100 vendor table on top of the 420 already there for the Nats... oh man.... I'll take as many pics as I can for you guys.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        ygmodeler4
                        • Member since
                          October 2004
                        • From: Northern Virginia
                        Posted by ygmodeler4 on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:02 PM
                        A little OT but hey what isnt in this GB.
                        This is a really cool site for paintball. I gotta get some gear from this placve. Some of the sniper stuff u can probably use for airsoft.Big Smile [:D]

                        -Josiah

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:34 PM
                        Yep,we sure do!How long is it from stockton to Fresno?
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:00 PM
                        Wow we've all got our fingers crossed for you reb! good luck
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:54 AM
                        OMG!!!! OMG!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I checked a Website and it says the Fresno is one of the top 3 contenders for nationals in 2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Fresno and my town Clovis are only divided by a freeway, were real close) It up against Las vegas and the now Famous Orange county. And as long as its not it Vegas Im happy! Gahs I sure hope!
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:51 AM
                        Hey all, hows your builds all coming along?
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:02 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

                        Closer than Atlanta anyway.


                        ya, thats trueBig Smile [:D] I hope its in Souther Cali or better yet, central! Now Im all excited. Heck, I'll have completed high school.
                        John
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:40 PM
                        2006 is Kansas City. Last year it was in phoenix. Pretty close to you. Closer than Atlanta anyway.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:37 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

                        Reb, 2007 is west coast. 2006 is mid west.

                        As for the club, I imagine Comrade Sergei would jump right in if he was here. hehe.


                        no way really? ANy idea of where?
                        John
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