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Community Build Project #4 - Ship

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:21 AM
Edog, I like the idea! Maybe for the next CBP if everyones agrees....

Anyway, I've decided on my subject for CBP #4... I'll give the Olympic and the Graf Spee a go another time, when I've found the right kits and the right PE bits to go with them... In the meantime this is the kit I got:



It's Academy's 1/250 Roman Warship. I'm sure it's not a real Academy kit 'cause I've seen it somewhere else under a different guise and from what I can make out, Academy is slightly wrong with the scale of the ship, as it appears to be MUCH closer to 1/48 than 1/250!!!

Anyway, my idea is to build not the warship but a merchant vessel from the second Century BC. The hull of the kit is fine for what I have in mind but I will need to re-configure the deck to accommodate the cargo.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:33 AM
Hey all, count me in. I may not have time to finish by the deadline, but ill give it a shot. I have no idea what I’ll be building, a row boat?

And a suggestion for a group build… how about we only use pieces from our scrap boxes? There have to be parts from at least 3 different kits.
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Posted by Wolfp on Monday, August 25, 2003 7:17 PM
It just arrived...lotso parts. Should be interesting

J.B. http://photobucket.com/albums/a303/jbrunyon/

    

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Posted by ILuv3ggs on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:49 PM
after further looking i too have changed my mind, and am going to try the Heller 1/400 Lutzow (was thinking about the scharnhorst, but its now taken Smile [:)] ) i have been doing some research on it, it looks like a kewl ship
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Posted by Wolfp on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:17 PM
That is correct my friend ;)

J.B. http://photobucket.com/albums/a303/jbrunyon/

    

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, August 18, 2003 1:46 PM
Is that the Heller kit?
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Posted by Wolfp on Monday, August 18, 2003 1:18 PM
Ive changed my mind...think I am going to do a 1/400 Scharnhorst. Of course their is the Prinz Eugene also...hmmm, nope Scharnhorst then Eugene...Yeah!

J.B. http://photobucket.com/albums/a303/jbrunyon/

    

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 4:14 PM
(2) 1/350Guided Missle Destroyers (Zhencdefu)
Hey they were $2.00 per kit at Hobby Lobby not bad kits either
(1) 1/350 Fletcher class WWII Destroyer (Tamyia)
(1) 1/700 WWII Sumner class destroyer Skywave)
All in progress right now. Build a little Paint a little, Wife complaint a lot.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, August 15, 2003 3:44 PM
print it off with an ink jet printer and wipe it as fast as you can! LOL [:0] Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)] going to the airshow this weekend?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 2:45 PM
Yes, 'prepainted' it is. Unfortunately, something like this is my only chance to get something done! Maybe I'll suck the images into photoshop and change the colors. Would that count as 'painting'? Would I need to 'strip' it first and if so, what do you guys recommend for a good 'ink' stripper?

Murray : )
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, August 15, 2003 2:20 PM
cheater, that's prepainted!!!!!!, sniff, sniff, why can't plastic come that way. (just kidding, I like painting) Wink [;)] looks fairly detailed for paper, Good Luck, Murray!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 2:09 PM
OK guys, here's a bit of an introduction to the paper 'kit' I'm gonna build for this CBP. Basically the final result should be a representation of the lightship 'Ambrose' in 1:250 scale. http://www.digitalnavy.com gives a short history of the ship and several photos of it as it sits today. As I mentioned before, the entire thing will be made from paper, not plastic.

I have to stop for a second and really hand credit to http://www.digitalnavy.com. There are several 'paper model' sights out there, but I am really impressed with this one. Some of their more intricate models (ie. Yamato, USS Oregon, USS Arizona, etc) are fairly complicated and they distribute these on CD rom for a charge that looks to be anywhere from $15 to $30. They have some neat airplanes as well. The kit that I chose was in their 'free downloads' section along with a 1:700 version of the HMS Dreadnought, a 1:250 version of an admiral class mine sweeper, and a v108 torpedo boat. I don't have any connection to this site, but I thought it would be good to explain where I got the kit since it is not the 'norm' for this forum (ie. it's made from paper, not plastic).

Downloading the 'kit' was very easy and I happen to have access to a color laser printer so I printed out a couple of copies just in case I make a boo-boo. See picture below for what comes out of the printer:



The sheets themselves print out very nicely. I'm not sure what the resolution would be, but I'd guess they are 600 dpi. Everything is quite nice indeed. There's two pages of parts, plus a third page that shows an 'explosion' diagram that is intended to be the assembly instructions. A shmuck like me might have a few troublesome moments with the explosion diagram, but there are several smaller explosion diagrams for the itsy bits that anyone is likely to have questions about. All-in-all I'd say this 'kit' is topnotch for a free download!

So that's it for now. The only thing I anticipate might give me trouble is that regular printer paper might be too thin and a bit more difficult to work with. It sounds like most people use 'cardstock', so I think I'll get a couple color copies run on some heavier paper just in case.

Good luck to everyone else in the CBP!!

Murray
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:11 AM
That's cool, Murray. It's amazing what they can do with just paper.

Ray
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:59 AM
Snoopy, their Graf Spee has been around for a while now... I'm pretty sure it's scaled at 1/700. Checking on Hannants website, it appears to be out of catalogue at the moment, but apparently Fujimi has got one at that scale and Heller has it at 1/400. Then there's the Airfix one too...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:05 AM
Wow Murray that's kick ass!


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:29 PM
OK guys, here's what I'm planning to build:

If you're at all interested in this 'paper' model thing then you should visit www.digitalnavy.com. There's some amazing stuff there.

I've already downloaded the 'kit' and have it printed out from a color laser printer (2 copies). I'll post some pics/info later...

Murray
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Posted by SNOOPY on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:35 AM
Hey DJ,

When did italeri make a Graf Spee and what scale is it. I thought monogram had one also (well a few years ago atleast, it was very tiny I think).
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Posted by garyfo on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:42 AM
I found my kit in my dad's attic.

Miss Budweiser! The old Testors kit.

It's all white, so...I'm gonna prime it and than paint it glossy white...

There isn't a bunch of detail, although the engine is pretty detailed.

The decals are gonna be tough for a couple of reasons:
1. It's really old (20 years old?)
2. They aren't regular decals..more like a hybrid of sticker/decal. They have really specific instructions on how to put them on...using laundry detergent and water...very odd.
Gary
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 9:07 AM
Hey Murray,

Definitely go with whatever you can do. A paper model sounds really interesting.

Ray
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Posted by ILuv3ggs on Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:33 PM
I have chosen my model, i am gonna try and do the CA-35 Indianapolis in 1/700 ...

wish me luck !
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Posted by Kugai on Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:08 PM
OK, made my decision.

Mine's going to be Tamiya's 1:700 waterline Yamato. I decided against the Shinano because I don't have one of those display boxes to keep all the little planes from getting lost. Anyone with kids or cats should understand the reasoningTongue [:P]. There's also the decal factor: over a hundred "meatballs" for 1:700 scale Zero fighters! I'm not going to fool myself into thinking that that level of detailing is a good idea when combined with a time limit.

Given that I've never finished a ship before, I'm just going to build her straight from the box, no PE and such. The biggest question I have is what color to use for the planking? The box art shows an drab color while the instructions say to use "Buff," which is a heck of a lot lighter. Anyone know of a historically accurate option?


I couldn't even find my way back to "normal" with the Hubble!

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, August 10, 2003 3:26 PM
Italeri's kits are supposed to be quite good at that scale. I would not recommend the older Airfix kits, nor Revell's...

My idea of building the Titanic successful sister-ship RMS Olympic took a beating today, 'cause I found out that PE sets that were to be released by Toms Modelworks will not be released after all (well, at the scale I needed them). So I'm out looking for another subject now... I might try that Italeri's Graf Spee...
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Posted by ILuv3ggs on Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:51 AM
i am quite keen to enter this, so i have some basc questions...

whats a good ship manufacture, and whats a good size 1/700 alright ?
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, August 9, 2003 1:04 AM
don't worry, I'll have it done by oct. 31
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Saturday, August 9, 2003 12:37 AM
Murray, go for it!

Abrams, the dates are just indicative... I still have to meet a deadline for CBP...!
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, August 8, 2003 11:11 PM
do we have to start on sept. 1st, or can it be a little late starting? say the middle of september?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 3:12 PM
OK, time for old Murray to throw a 'curve' at you guys... I'm in a bit of a bad spot because I don't really have a ton of free time lately for building kits. I totally blew it on CBP#3 and would like to fix that for #4. So, that said, would you guys allow me to build a 'paper' model and join in the discussion for CBP#4? I've found some neat sites that offer free print-outs and it would be about the only way I could participate. I know it's not 'plastic' and therefore not really at the heart of the forum, but it would be about all I could do right now.

How about it? You guys OK with a little bending/twisting of the rules (not like I haven't done it before...)??

Murray
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Posted by Wolfp on Thursday, August 7, 2003 1:50 PM
Ooh, ooh, ooh...a reason to break open my Fletcher and put off my Swordfish for just a bit longer. I have had this kit for about 3 months now along with the photo etched parts (actually had to buy them twice due to the fact I lost the first set...grrrr Angry [:(!]. Anyway, count me in.

J.B. http://photobucket.com/albums/a303/jbrunyon/

    

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Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, August 7, 2003 8:35 AM
I wish I had time for this one. I have a plank on frame USS Constitiution started.
Boy, talk about necessary skill sets. Plastic is one thang, but wood is a totally different beast
3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 4:54 PM
ok count me in. I found one that I want to do. I'm doing the same as muzzleflash88. (not telling what until sept. 1st)
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