Armor Interiors GB

Brews wrote:

I'm just a little curious as to why you won't use it, what you'll do instead, and what the interior parts look like. Can you post a photo? Bruce

cool brews!--nice to hear from you man-- i know what you mean when you say ' thinking about it' -- i do alot of that myself-- i use balsa also--you can glue sheet plastic on it, and make any shape you need-- i will be looking forward to your next post-- i made these fuel tanks for the t-34 from balsa shod with plastic sheet--best of luck to you --treadwell

hey

i have been busy working on my sturmy and its interior,i have painted it,i dont think ill need till 2009 to finish it,there is a thread in the armour forum with interior pics.

matt

trying to keep the thread alive!-- lol-- here are some t-34 --1/16  interior pics not yet uploaded to the regular armor forum-- all responce welcome-- these are a couple shots of the drivers(left) side

Very cool stuff! I'm in the process of adding the wiring/tubing to the Tiger, as well as the lubrication points.

I have to get my hands on some 1/16 soon!

treadwell wrote:

trying to keep the thread alive!-- lol-- here are some t-34 --1/16  interior pics not yet uploaded to the regular armor forum-- all responce welcome-- these are a couple shots of the drivers(left) side

I'd pay to see those pics in FSM. They look precisely real! Keep them coming, please.

Edit: As a subscriber, I'd pay regardless of whether they're in there or not, but I'd rather see them in!

I pulled what I'd done out, and started laying some torsion bars last night, plus I put an ammo rack in

A bit more work, with pill-packets and yoguhrt containers, mostly, and a bit of plasticine and sprue:

I thought about opening up the engine hatch and including an HL 230, but I'm not sure that it will be worth the trouble. I'll make some fans and stick them on some yoghurt container, and make some radiators, but that will be about it for the rear.

The transmission case still needs a bit more finesse, obviously. I'll end up making some resin parts for these, as I have a Dragon Jagdpanther somewhere.

I still have to make three ammunition racks for the 88, plus I made a plasticine ammo bag for the MG, and I'll make resin copies of that.

The gun will take a lot of work, and there are seats for the driver and radio operator, which will just about be flat on the floor by the looks of it, but I think I can manage to get enough "kind of detail" that will make a quick glance through the hatches think that there's an interior there.

treadwell wrote:

lookin good so far, brews, but i gotta ask, why don't you make it a little easier on yourself and use evergreen sheet styrene or something like it?-- --treadwell

I've been asked the same question by another friend of mine. I could say that the reason is cost - but that's not entirely true. Although, if I wanted to make it LOTS easier, I could have used the Verlinden Productions Jagdpanther Interior (which I think is for the later Tamiya model) which costs about $46US, or in other words, about 3 times what I paid for this kit.

I have a pretty good stock of 5, 10, 20 and 40thou card, but I don't have anything in the way of textured card, and that starts to get prohibitively expensive for my taste. I'm not a professional architect - I model for fun, and I can't recoup my costs from clients! <G> So, that's where the pill things come in handy. I find that between aspirin, paracetamol and other capsules that we have in the house, there is a variety of texture which will suffice for various types of floor plate. It's no trouble to use scissors to cut the "backing sheet" away from the pills and capsules.

I do have some Eduard 1:72 German Floor Plate III, for an Sdkfz 7 I'm tarting up, which costs $8 for a sheet from Squadron, but for the purposes of this exercise, I don't think that PE floor plate is warranted.

Once you get stuck into a yoghurt container with scissors, it's actually pretty easy. It's also the sort of material where you can measure once and cut twice or three times and not worry about it.

I did a bit of work on the Jagdpanther on the weekend. I'm finding it fun, challenging, and satisfying, actually. I've compared photos of the interior of the Jagdpanther in the IWM with photos of the Verlinden set, and an elevation scale drawing of the interior through the centreline, and I'd have to say that while the Verlinden set looks good, it's not exactly on the money, at least not for the IWM machine.

I've come to the conclusion that the rear hatch of the Jagdpanther was similar to that of the King Tiger - possibly for standardisation. I might be wrong, but it's a fair assumption, I think.

When I started on the lock & breech of the 88, I made a resin copy of Dragon's Nashorn breech (from their first Nashorn issue - which has been since re-tooled once or twice. This breech differs from the Jagdpanther breech in a number of areas, which I've corrected as far as my limited abilities permit, by slicing, filing, filling etc. Even if I'd copied Dragon's King Tiger breech, it wouldn't be the same as the breech of the machine in the IWM. The breech is probably the most significant interior detail, by the way, in terms of visibility.

I made a recoil guard out of 0.020" card, using the Dragon King Tiger guard as a template, and gave it a flange of 0.010x0.040 strip. This has been superglued to the left-hand-side of the breech. The details on the right-hand-side of the Dragon King Tiger guard seem to be slightly inaccurate, so I'll make new ones.

The most difficult part (or group of parts) to make will be the gun mounting, I think. I have a good feel for this in two dimensions, and a reasonable feel for it in 3 dimensions, but I think that it will need to be constructed / fabricated with a lot of care. I might do it using a sprue "skeleton" and attach plastic card to the skeleton. The sight (which has a periscope that moves in an arc on the superstructure roof) is attached directly to the gun mounting. It is a massive piece to make, and fiddly because the gun is attached to the superstructure, as will the mounting be, but the mounting also rests on a track which is attached to the hull floor plates!

A few more piccies, this time of the still-incomplete breech etc, tacked onto the end of the kit barrel with superglue, as I was keen to see how it was looking.

View of the breech from the right hand side (with the superstructure unattached to the hull):

Views through the loader's hatch:

Views through the rear hatch:

A progress update (though admittedly off-topic!):

I razor-sawed, motor tooled, scribed, filled and filed the underside - using my Matchbox 1:76 Jagdpanther for reference!!!

Thanks, mate. I was half-thinking that noone cared :)

I'll be away from home for a few days, so there will be no progress until next week. How's your build(s) coming along?

here are some shots not yet uploaded to the main armor threads

thanks for looking-- any comments welcome--- treadwell

I took some photos at Bovington Tank Museum yesterday. If anyone's interested in:

• WWI tanks
• Jagdtiger (incomplete interior)
• Pzkw III (incomplete interior)
• Pzkw IV
• Churchill (through driver's hatch)
• Matilda I (TDH)
• Cromwell (TDH)
• possibly others

let me know and I'll post.

My build has been stalled, because I've been O/S more than I've been at home, in the past couple of months! Actually, I could have been away from home even longer, but my office manager put a stop to that, when he remembered I was having most of November off.

 I met a Jagdpanther up close and personal yesterday, but I didn't get a peek into its interior. It was a machine that was built post-war, from wartime parts, for evaluation purposes.

 However, at Bovington, there is a Centurion that is displayed cut in halves longitudinally, and it's an awesome display, with audio-visuals like a mini IMAX that gives a simulation of combat. You hear the loader speaking from the left, the commander from the right, the engine from the rear (and all around, I guess) and the gun talks, too. It's fabulous. My camera had flat batteries by this stage, though.