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Interceptor Group Build
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:04 AM
This is the first GB I've tried to start. The subject for this group build is any aircraft purpose-built for, or adapted to, an interceptor role, such as the F-106 or F-14. This also includes any aircraft adapted later for multi-role use, like the F-4, as long as the original air-to-air capability remained intact.

There's a lot of different possibilities here, from a modern-day Tomcat or Tornado, to classics like the F-89 or F-102, or even back into WWII with the Me-163 and the like. You should be able to find something interesting in any time period.

The timeline:
June 1st - November 30th (should be plenty of time, but this is not necessarily fixed)

The rules:
The first rule is that there are no rules.
Any scale or kit is okay.
PE, resin, all aftermarket stuff is just fine.
Enter as many models as you want, as long as they fit the Interceptor criteria.

The main point here is to have fun.

Participants:
Desdinova: Revell-Monogram F-106
grhornet: Hasegawa F-104
Madroc: ProModeler F-86D
Berny13: Monogram F-102
PanzerWulff: Mig-31 Foxhound
harvs73: ICM Mk. VII Spitfire X2
taxtp: Hasegawa F-104G
Mark T Gold Coast: Mirage IIIO
rudy_102: PZL  P.24C
ygmodeler4: Revell F-106

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Posted by Madroc on Saturday, April 15, 2006 3:25 PM

Count me in.  I know I faded out of my last GB... sorry, RadMax, I thought you had a cool idea but real life intervened.  Anyhow, I think (hope) I can squeeze in another build before school starts.

I'll go with the ProModeler F-86D in 1/48.  I had intended to build the  RM F-16ADF.  Went to LHS to see if he could order the PE set, since the cockpit is blank plastic (support the locals and all that)... long story short, he couldn't but I ended up buying the Dog Sabre kit I'd been eyeing for a year.  It looks like a very good kit for $26, I'm looking forward to building it.

I'm a big fan of interceptors.  My first completed build after I got back into the hobby a year ago was the RM F-101.  Now if only someone would make an injection-molded MiG-31 in 1/48...

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:03 PM
Awesome. Glad to see someone's interested. Gotta love that F-86.

Personally, I'm going to be finishing my Revellogram F-106. It was the first 1/48 kit I started since I got back into modelling, and it turned into a putty nightmare. Giant gaps and seams, and since I didn't have the experience to fix it right, I ended up doing a real poor job and pretty much sanding all the exterior detail off before deciding I couldn't stomach any more, throwing a coat of ADC grey on, and putting it on a shelf for two years.

I think I'm not going to try to do any more real work with it, since it's already more or less assembled and painted, but I do want to get it finished even if it's not up to my current standards, since it's a big plane and taking up valuable workbench space. I think I'd still rather finish it than throw it in the garbage, even if it is a 10$ kit. I'm not going to bother rescribing it since you couldn't see the panel lines on the real thing, anyway. They kept them pretty much spotless.

Since most of the work is already done I am going to be building another kit from the beginning, an F-14D Tomcat. It's the Revell/Monogram kit (again) and the fit is terrible and the fuselage warped, but I think that where I am now I can tackle it and get a presentable result.
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:37 PM
I would love to join but unfortunatly I am basically Calander Full GB wise for the year BTW Madroc the monogram F-86 D builds up BEAUTIFULLY I did not have to fill a single seam on the entire kit just a few passes with a polishing set cleaned the seams you could see for a great bare metal finish and it has a really good cockpit OOB I hope you enjoy itBig Smile [:D] good luck with the GB Des If I can sneak in the time for another GB I'll let ya know TTFN
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 17, 2006 2:11 AM
Sure, if you find time to squeeze another project into your calendar, feel free to jump in. The timeline (June to November) is hardly fixed at this point, and not that important in the long run.



If anyone's wondering, this isn't limited to just jets. I'm keeping my definition of "interceptor" deliberately loose; I'd also count a Spitfire from the Battle of Britain or a FW-190 based in France, for example, as long as it's a plane from a squadron tasked primarily with defending friendly territory from enemy bombers or what have you. I already said that it doesn't necessarily have to be a purpose-built Interceptor, although I suppose that would be preferred. Anyone should be able to find something that they'd like to build and also in keeping with the spirit of the GB.
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Posted by tornado on Monday, April 17, 2006 1:56 PM
is a lockheed yf-22 lightning a interceptor
:-)------Ryan------(-:
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 17, 2006 4:11 PM
The F-22 is an air superiority fighter.

Examples of more modern interceptors would be planes like the F-106 (in fact, a lot of the other century series jets too), the F-4 or the F-14 (both were originially designed as fleet defense interceptors, with multi-role capability tacked on later), the Tornado ADV or the Mig-25.
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Posted by berny13 on Monday, April 17, 2006 4:26 PM
Count me in.  That gives me the excuse the do the F-102A from the 32nd FIS, the one I was Crew Chief on from '62-'65.  I have the Monogram 1/48 F-102A case X wing and decals from Fox One.

Berny

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On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 17, 2006 4:44 PM
Outstanding. The F-102 and the -106 both carried some very cool markings, I'm not familiar with the 32nd FIS though or its color schemes.

That reminds me of a bizarre story I heard about the F-102 during the Vietnam war. Apparently, they had a couple squadrons moved to southeast asia, I think Thailand, to protect our airspace. Then, someone got the bright idea to use them for ground attack. They were ordered to fly, nap-of-the-earth along the Ho Chi Minh trail in the middle of the night, and look for Vietcong campfires with their infrared gear designed to detect Soviet bombers. Once they found a target, they were to shoot at it with their air-to-air rockets and return to base.

Apparently this hilariously ludicrous misapplication of technology lost most of its humor when they started losing pilots left and right from flying into the sides of mountains in the dark. So, fortunately, they stopped doing it.

Kind of makes you wonder what the heck they were smoking over there.

Though, I do think the Delta Dagger looks pretty good in SEA camo.
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Posted by berny13 on Monday, April 17, 2006 5:03 PM

 Desdinova wrote:
Outstanding. The F-102 and the -106 both carried some very cool markings, I'm not familiar with the 32nd FIS though or its color schemes.

That reminds me of a bizarre story I heard about the F-102 during the Vietnam war. Apparently, they had a couple squadrons moved to southeast asia, I think Thailand, to protect our airspace. Then, someone got the bright idea to use them for ground attack. They were ordered to fly, nap-of-the-earth along the Ho Chi Minh trail in the middle of the night, and look for Vietcong campfires with their infrared gear designed to detect Soviet bombers. Once they found a target, they were to shoot at it with their air-to-air rockets and return to base.

Apparently this hilariously ludicrous misapplication of technology lost most of its humor when they started losing pilots left and right from flying into the sides of mountains in the dark. So, fortunately, they stopped doing it.

Kind of makes you wonder what the heck they were smoking over there.

Though, I do think the Delta Dagger looks pretty good in SEA camo.

I see another one that fell victim to inaccurate fiction reports from "Un named sources".  The F-102 was sent to Vietnam and Thailand and performed the alert duty roll and limited B-52 escort.  They never were used for ground attack at any time during the Vietnam war.  Some one that wanted to glorify the roll the F-102 played in Nam probably started that story and now it is assumed as true.

The 32nd FIS had red, white and blue fan stripes painted on the vertical stab.

  

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 17, 2006 5:54 PM
Really? I know I read that somewhere from an otherwise decently reputable source, might've been one of the Janes' air combat books, I don't know. It does seem farfetched but stranger things have definitely happened. I'm sure you'd know more about it than the rest of us do.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:49 AM
Updated to add the list of participants.

I think I might start working on the 106 early just to free up workbench space so I'll have room to work on the F-14.

How is that F-102 kit in terms of fit? I thought about getting one but the F-106 was such a pain in the rear that I kind of shied away from it. Not that I don't like a challenge (I don't build many Tamigawa "shake and bake" kits, and for more reasons besides cost), but I have my limits.

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:58 AM
Put me down for the Monogram F102A please.  Cool [8D]

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:08 PM
Ok I'm in not sure with what probably a F-104 or mig 25 or 31 I'll get back to ya on it
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by berny13 on Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:23 PM

 Desdinova wrote:
Updated to add the list of participants.

I think I might start working on the 106 early just to free up workbench space so I'll have room to work on the F-14.

How is that F-102 kit in terms of fit? I thought about getting one but the F-106 was such a pain in the rear that I kind of shied away from it. Not that I don't like a challenge (I don't build many Tamigawa "shake and bake" kits, and for more reasons besides cost), but I have my limits.

The Monogram F-102 was released in the late 80's and does have some fit problems.  With dry fitting and sanding you shouldn't have to much problems.  The weapons bay doors fit very bad and will require careful work to get them to fit properly.  There is a large gap where the lower wing and upper wing join, which will require some filling and sanding.  I have built several and it is a fun kit to build.

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:27 PM
Updated list. Glad to have you guys on board.


The F-106 has the same problem with the lower and upper wing, and unfortunately when I put the kit together I didn't have the skill to fix it properly, but I'm not going to go back and fix it now. The F-14, on the other hand, I want to do that one right.

I've seen a few Monogram F-102s in person at contests, and they can build up real nice. Looking forward to seeing how you guys' kits turn out.
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Posted by harvs73 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:47 AM

I may as well jump on board this GB as well. Big Smile [:D] I will be doing two 1/48 ICM Spitfire Mk VII interceptors decked out as 453 SQN RAAF in WWII using Red Roo Decals.

Dave Harvey

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 3:11 AM
Nice choice! I was hoping we'd get a little more variety here. Smile [:)]

Not that there's anything wrong with century-series jets, of course, but it never hurts to "broaden your horizons".
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Posted by harvs73 on Sunday, April 30, 2006 2:30 AM
My 2 Mk VII Spitfires are starting to come to shape now. The wings are together and the internals are ready for weathering, at this rate hopefully they should be together in the not too distant future.

Dave Harvey

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Posted by Madroc on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:45 AM

Bumpitty-bump.

One more day.  I'm really looking forward to starting my Sabre Dawg.  My first NMF (minicraft 727) didn't turn out super-duper but I learned some lessons and I can practice another one on the F-107 I started for the Ohio GB.  I'm going straight OOB with the Wright-Pat decals.

 

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:06 PM
put me in for a west german F-104 by Hasegawa in 1/48
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Posted by berny13 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 6:59 AM

I have three F-102A kits, two Case X and one Case XX wing.  I ordered the TF-102A conversion and will be doing the Case XX as a TF-102A.  The other two are Monogram Pro Modeler Case X which I am doing in the colors of the 32 FIS, aircraft 56-1027.  The TF-102A will be from the 4756 ADWC, Tyndall AFB.

I haven't started on any of them yet, as Spring and Summer projects have come first.  That and I spent a week at my camper in the tri-state area doing some necessary fishing and relaxing.Wink [;)]

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:16 AM

 PanzerWulff wrote:
put me in for a west german F-104 by Hasegawa in 1/48

Which one did you get, the Marinenflieger?

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:11 PM
Acctually I got 2 different kits 1 for this GB is the F-104G "NATO Starfighter" that comes with west german and italian markings and a F-104J in JASDF markings for maybe a second build.I'm still looking for a Mig 25 or 31 just because i love the look of the beastWink [;)]
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by berny13 on Friday, June 9, 2006 8:25 AM
I am waiting for Hobby Lobby to get a supply of Zinc Chromate paint in before I can start mine.  I have all of the other colors needed. 

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:59 PM
Okay, I'm happy to say that I haven't dropped off of the face of the Earth completely. College has been eating up almost all of my time, luckily finals are next week and after that, I'm in the clear.

I'll update the list tonight.

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Posted by harvs73 on Monday, June 19, 2006 5:25 AM
My MkVII Spitfires are in need of a paint stripping as the paint job worked out very badly. What realy sucks is that it's winter here and modelling has almost come to a standstill as it's too cold to open the windows!

Dave Harvey

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:43 AM
That's too bad. I look forward to seeing those.

Well, it's going into summer here and I'm out of college for now, so I should get back to the bench this week. I do have to try to clean up, though, right now everything's buried beneath a pile of crap.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:01 PM
I've decided I'm giving up on the F-106.

Apparently during one of the many months it sat neglected while I worked on other projects, it fell off the workbench. I haven't even looked at it much until today, and now I see that the fall apparently busted open a few seams in the fuselage (that were a pain in the *** two years ago when I put it together), knocked off the drop tanks and broken off part of the wingtip that I had painstakingly repaired two years ago. The fragment is nowhere to be found.

Coupled with the facts that it was already far below my standard of workmanship (I mostly bought the kit in the first place just as a testbed for gap-filling techniques, since the fit was so abysmal), I've hardly touched it for two years, the paint job is terrible, and most of the panel lines have been sanded into oblivion, I've decided it's not worth trying to save. Considering how many times this kit has nearly brought me to throw it against the wall, I don't think it's much loss. I might get another F-106 kit later and build it, but as for this one, I'm pulling the plug.

I guess that leaves the F-14. It's not really that much better as far as fit is concerned, but I think I can do much better since I know so much more than I did when I assembled the F-106.

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Posted by harvs73 on Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:07 AM

Why not use the kit as a learning curve? Strip the paint job, rescribe - everything? It's always good to have a kit that you don't care about to try new stuff on or try different ways of doing things.

The spitfires will be done, it just will take a break in the weather to strip them and paint them to my satisfaction.

Dave Harvey

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