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ARMOR - Tamiya 1/16 Tiger 1 Group Build

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 12:51 AM
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 1:08 AM
Okie :

You could ask in the RCArmorForum.org site , but the easier way is to read the review on the Panzer Projects page about Tranny Upgrades :

http://www.homepurchaseprogram.com/transmod.html

Thing is , that data is now sorely out of date . From what I understand , neither Applied Effects or Armor Concepts items are made anymore , but the competing Bob Wroe kit ~is~ , and is not there ( anyone wanting his addy , let me know )

All in all , the Zagi upgrades are considered as basic as putting the bearings into the Pershing and Sherman MF kits . Its often done even if the gearbox alterations are not !

Hope this helps ya decide .
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Posted by okieboy on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 1:13 AM
Hey White Wolf,

Sure I'll take that address for Bob Wroe. I'm just curious about the details when installing the
Zagis.

Roy
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 6:14 AM
Looks like everybody's keeping busy!

Erush, yup, I'm a good ol' Georgia boy, from way down south in Brunswick! Spent some years in Stone Mountain and Athens, finishing up University.

Erock, please teach me the ways of eVil Bay! I've never so much as perused it. Always afraid I'll be forced to buy a Major Matt Mason figure for 2,000 bux or something!

NEWS:
Today I bought what I hope is a fairly decent digital camera, with macro capability down to 2 inches, so I hope I can get some good clear detail shots of my stuff for everybody to throw tomatoes at!Wink [;)]

It still sits in the box as I type. First thing I gotta do is load the picture upload software into this here computer, which is my biggest worry...this old jalopy don't take too kindly to new software! Big Smile [:D]
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 6:37 AM
J-Hulk,

The most important thing to do is, get a list of kits you are looking for and find prices that you are willing to pay (say from your normal online dealer or a favorite hobby shop) Example: I am looking for kit xx and at my dealer it's xx dollars.

Now, congrats, you found that exact same kit on eBay with a starting bid of, let's say $5.00 Always look at the shipping charge from the seller. Most start their kits or whatever at a very low price but, kill you with the shipping charge. Since I run a Shipping-Receiving Dept. I know roughly how much the cost would actually be. I would never pay anything over $6.50 ground shipping (normal size kit) in the US or over $17.00 overseas $17.00 being for airmail, not surface shipping(remember, insurance to protect it is always extra and the larger the kit, the more expensive the shipping). Back to the bid, so the kit is at $5.00 and the shipping charge is at say $4.00. How much more will it take to get just below the best deal you have seen this kit go for? I don't mean a one time sale but, normal pricing.

Always make your first bid, your last. I mean, bid your maximum the first time. You have to tell yourself, "I will not pay anymore for this item" Why should you? You can get it at the other place for roughly the same price. This also helps with you having to rebid or a bidding war at the end. People love to "SNIPE" or outbid you in the final few seconds of an auction.

I always check the Tamiya, Dragon and Academy kits. There are some really great deals to be had, if you don't overbid. I have seen people sell entire Tamiya lots, dirt cheap, because they were moving on to a different form of modeling or just didn't have the time anymore.

Remember, when bidding, you have to say, you'll get 'em next time. I had the same happen when I was looking for my 1/16 Tiger 1. Finally, I caught it at the right time and with a seller I was familiar with. I won several auctions from him before and he sent it to me with almost no shipping charge from overseas.

One final word and probably the most important: always, ALWAYS read the description. If it sounds shady, it more than likely is. If you have any doubts, email the seller. If he-she fails to respond or gives unclear information...move on. A good way to tell if a seller is on the up and up, is to read feedback from people who won auction items from them. Too many negative feedbacks stick out like a sore thumb!
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Posted by erush on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 6:54 AM
And don't forget..."Trust the force Luke" when dealing with evil-bay Big Smile [:D]

Eric
Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.     "Friendly fire...isn't"
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 7:09 AM
Here is the Aber Fret set from WW:

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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 10:23 AM
Thanks for the pointers, Erock! That'll be my eBay bible, should I gather the courage to take a peek!

Folks usually don't mind shipping overseas, like, I don't know, to Japan?
~Brian
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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 1:12 PM
J,

In the item write up, it usually will tell you if they ship overseas or just to the US. There are several "regular" sellers that are in Korea or Hong Kong. Prices from the Hong Kong site are usually pretty low, but they kill you with the shipping!

Bill
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 8:40 PM
Well, it will be back to business tomorrow. The rest of the Tamiya acrylics arrived today. PE is due tomorrow (finally) Angry [:(!]

I hate waiting for parts while in the middle of a build. Dead [xx(]

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Posted by okieboy on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 10:27 PM
Howdy Tiger fans,

I took my latest pictures tonight before coming to work, so hopefully the wife can post them to Erock tomorrow. My barrel arrived today Evil [}:)] and now all I'm waiting on for the exterior of the Tiger are the tow cables and the turret parts. I'm ready to apply a primer coat now. Tongue [:P]

Roy
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell
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Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:34 AM
By the way, Osaka's baseball team, who are poised to win it all this year, are the Hanshin Tigers!! The city is plastered with tiger imagery all over the place. Poignant reminders that I gotta get to work soon!!Big Smile [:D]
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:29 AM
No takers on my Aber set ?

Damn , not even a nibble . Now where did I put that bucket of bait ...

Well , this is a bit off-topic , but anyone interested in a Leopard and Gepard ? rather good condition , with many spares , including duplicate Gepard upper deck , turret , guns , radar ... but most of the interior mechanics missing . Enough there to make a dummy Gepard up on another Leopard , or to mod into a functioning one .

Asking $700 USD plus shipping .

WhiteWolf
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:49 AM
This morning's progress. I finished the basecoat on all the road wheels, drive sprockets and idler wheels:

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Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:06 AM
From this point forward I shall call you Erocket!Wink [;)]
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:43 AM
ERock :

Thats it , make me feel bad for not working on my KT & T1 ! ( and Sherman too ! )

Both kitties need painting , the King Tiger is awaiting parts from Dirk ... and the Tiger is held up indefinately .

I either have to do some dis-assembly on the Tiger to use the Aber parts , or sell the Aber ... and if the Aber goes , I wont need to dis-assemble . Catch 22 .

So the Aber disposal has me held up .

Dunno if I dare try Zimm'ing ... but I do have a damaged KT hull I could practice on . Think I prefer to do without though .

On that new fret :

They are generic German tie-down clasps & clamps . They could be used on KT , or even the Bandai's .

If anyone wants a detailed breakdown on which Aber fret does what , let me know . I've got through 'em , and have it fairly well mapped out .

WhiteWolf
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:29 PM
Have you guys seen this???Big Smile [:D]

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/tiger1_uhenning.html

thought you guys might like it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:53 PM
edog,

Hey, thanks for sharing! Now that REALLY gets me motivated. I may have to come home from work tonight and build until dawn Evil [}:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:24 PM
I GIVE UP !

eDog , you ~really~ know how to knock the stuffing outa a modeler , don't ye ?

*sigh* Will someone ~please~ take this monster-set off my paws ?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:19 PM
Pop Quiz , Class !

The 16002 D fret , that pair of small round screens ... I ~was~ going to ask where they went , but I found the step .

Its easy to miss . I'd been thru the manual a dozen times , and only caught it as I suspected what it was ... after doing a detailed fret analysis ( as opposed to a threat analysis ! )

Anyone else catch it ?

And I can shoot ERock the analysis ( listed by manual step & then by fret / use ) if anyone wants to see it .
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Posted by wipw on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:06 PM
Wow! That pic was enough to make me tempted to go home, box up my 1/35 scale, and hang up my zimmeritting tools for ever!

My vote...he deserved to win!

Bill
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:53 PM
Woohoo !

Bob's gotten my parts from Dirk , and is gonna forward them tomorrow with spare links (KT & T1)

I ordered the tow shackles for both , a KT muzzle brake (cause the older barrel dinna have a separate brake) and a KT turret MG mount bracket (that piece the wire goes into and that sits on the traverse ring) Plus two sets of Sherman shock reservoirs ... but only got one Sherman now ! Anyone need a set ?

Will post pics when they arrive .
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Posted by okieboy on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:24 PM
Edog,

Man, that was a seriously motivating Tiger! Now I have to make a couple of adjustments to my Tiger after looking at it. That's the good thing about the Zimm-It-Rite; I can remove it with an x-acto knife and reapply if I need to. At any rate, I sanded it down a bit today and that really enhanced its appearance and smoothed the whole thing out. I was really impressed. Tongue [:P] I got my Badger 150 and Cyclone compressor in the mail today and practiced a bit with it. I've decided that I'll use cans for the primer and base coat and reserve the airbrush for the camoflaging. I still haven't formulated a plan to fill in the hole at the rear of the turret where the old ventilator fan was. I just want to be able to cover that up so that one couldn't tell there was supposed to be a fan there. Could I sand over a surface as prominent as the top of the turret to even it out and count on the primer and paint to still present a nice appearance? Black Eye [B)] Any suggestions?

Roy
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:20 AM
Well… I just had a brainstorm, LOL.Big Smile [:D] Since I cant join in on the 1/16th Tiger RC build, and am enormously jealous of all you punks,Wink [;)] I was thinking I would get the DML 1/72 Tiger. Perhaps add the PE set from Eduard that was meant for the Revell kit, and some Techmod dry transfers. Possibly even get the Revell Tiger kit to improve any lacking parts on the DML RC tiger. Viola, superdetailed mini RC tiger, from one extreme to another, and only about $65. Well, it was a thought…

Think they make LEDs small enough to go in the headlights of a 1/72 tiger?

Keep up the good work on the big cats in the mean time. Oh, and I want to see some more pics, and a LOT more paint!!! jk, take your time and enjoy the build guys. Did I mention how jealous I was??Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:37 AM
Hey all,

Just a heads up for the next day or so, my website will be down. I am upgrading the account to allow for more available web space. It should be back up and running by tomorrow morning.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:46 AM
Erock,
Oh, no! Just when I finally have a picture to offer! Disapprove [V]
Well, I'll just post it here till you get the site back up. Big Smile [:D]
Speaking of posting, how do I get it onto your site? Mail it to you?
Please lemme know!Wink [;)]

Edog, great link! Very nice Tiger.

And bring on that Teensy Tiger! Sounds like a good idea.

Anyway, here's the pic. This is the current state of affairs for my Tamiya 1/16 Tiger I, packed under a bunch of friends and foes. Behind it lurks the 1/16 Tiger II.
Inside is the Aber PE set (that's the booklet in front) and the Hobby Fan metal barrel.
Come October 26th (deadline for my current project is the 25th), down the behemoth shall come, shaking off the dust of years of waiting, and I'll dive right into that big sucker!

Here ya go:



Thus, it waits quietly...
~Brian
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Posted by erush on Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:24 AM
okieboy To fill the hole in the back of your turret I would use plastic card thin enough to follow the contour but also be able to set the curve in somewhat also. Then you jusy have a shallow hole to fill and you could even cut a disk of the same thinkness of the kit wall and glue inside the hole on top of the plistic card sheet inside. Then fill over that and you don't have as much filler to work with. I'd use CA glue at first at least for some extra strength and if you don't like working with it use a putty over that. Then it's just careful sanding to follow the contour of the turret.

Woo hoo!! Hulk's got pix!!! Way to go!

Eric
Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.     "Friendly fire...isn't"
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Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:58 AM
Brian - will you get that big black duffle bag out of the way ..... I'm trying to count Shermies for crying out loud.

Now let's see ....

A Tamiya M4,

an AFV M-10,

oh ... and there's an Academy Achilles.

This is so much fun .... LOL
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:35 AM
Yes,

Just send me the picture in an email.

I actually upgraded the site last week and for some reason they have me registered for 2 sites. They said the problem would be taken care of withing 24 hrs and my site will be back online.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:19 PM
OK,

You can send the pictures to me, the site is back up and running Tongue [:P]
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