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Self Propelled Artillery/Mortar GB 2006-2007

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Posted by Gun Tech on Sunday, October 8, 2006 10:42 AM
 ewc2003 wrote:

Revell of Germany makes a 1/35 scale one, that's what I'm doing for the build...

 

Whoa!! I'm sorry  Matt... I should be more attentive Oops [oops]  

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Sunday, October 8, 2006 8:47 AM
looks like a nice piece ewc seen any U.S. sp guns around i will browse through squadron all day today tofind something my LHS is closed :(
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Posted by ewc2003 on Sunday, October 8, 2006 1:38 AM
 Gun Tech wrote:

 kenny_conklin wrote:
i already hinted to the wife thats what i want for xmas :) hope to get it. i wantto join this group build gun do you know any good kits of modern armor in the sp catagory? or anyone else in the build know ? thanks guys

 

I'm sorry kenny, I just deal with German WWII. The Panzerhaubitze 2000 looks really wicked though, but I don't know if any compagny is making it.

Revell of Germany makes a 1/35 scale one, that's what I'm doing for the build...

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=RG3042

Mine's on the way as we speak.

The Paladin is a good one, Italeri makes a less expensive one, as well as the M109 et.al.  I wanted to try and kitbash the Israeli Slammer but I found the PzH 2000 for a decent price, and I've never done a Revell of Germany kit before, so it'll be a learning experience for me.

 

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, October 7, 2006 11:35 PM
thanks gun i will look around i am sure there is something out there
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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, October 7, 2006 3:02 PM

 kenny_conklin wrote:
i already hinted to the wife thats what i want for xmas :) hope to get it. i wantto join this group build gun do you know any good kits of modern armor in the sp catagory? or anyone else in the build know ? thanks guys

 

I'm sorry kenny, I just deal with German WWII. The Panzerhaubitze 2000 looks really wicked though, but I don't know if any compagny is making it.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, October 7, 2006 11:48 AM
i already hinted to the wife thats what i want for xmas :) hope to get it. i wantto join this group build gun do you know any good kits of modern armor in the sp catagory? or anyone else in the build know ? thanks guys
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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, October 7, 2006 10:40 AM

 kenny_conklin wrote:
thanks gun .no it doesnt move on its own power looking for any excuse to buy the model :)

Smile [:)] It just look wicked and awesome! But I need more reason than that for the wife to allow me to add the kit in the stash....

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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, October 7, 2006 10:32 AM
 Shellback wrote:
 Gun Tech wrote:
 Shellback wrote:

This one looks pretty well blackened .

Thanks Gun Tech .  Thumbs Up [tup]

 

My pleasure, I've got a lot of pictures of one surviving example in Sinsheim. Tell me if you want any.

Thank you for your offer Gun Tech , i do not have a printer right now but may be getting ahold of one soon . Let me get back to you  when i get it .  Is Sinsheim in Germany ?

I think it is. The pics are not mine though, its a compilation of what I found on the net. Here's a cool site for you, they have the best pics of it.

http://www.panzer-modell.de/

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, October 7, 2006 8:41 AM
thanks gun .no it doesnt move on its own power looking for any excuse to buy the model :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 7, 2006 1:30 AM
 Gun Tech wrote:

 Comet wrote:
I just wondered if the Selbstfahrlafette Sturer Emil would qualify?

I'm not up to speed with German WW2 armour but really fancy building one of these as they are on offer at my LHS and this GB would be a good excuse to buy one.Big Smile [:D]

 

It qualifies as a heavy panzerjager.......  tank destroyer....... not a self propelled howitzer.       You should still get it though, as it is a good subject. I got mine in the stash and it looks big!!! Just waiting for free time to buid it.  Yann did one not long ago, and it looked awesome!



Thanks for the info GT,I'll still have to buy one as like you say they look awesome.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, October 7, 2006 1:22 AM
 Gun Tech wrote:
 Shellback wrote:

This one looks pretty well blackened .

Thanks Gun Tech .  Thumbs Up [tup]

 

My pleasure, I've got a lot of pictures of one surviving example in Sinsheim. Tell me if you want any.

Thank you for your offer Gun Tech , i do not have a printer right now but may be getting ahold of one soon . Let me get back to you  when i get it .  Is Sinsheim in Germany ?

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, October 6, 2006 11:16 PM

 kenny_conklin wrote:
dumb question but i figured i would ask :) would the leopold railgun qualify i doubt it but worth a shot. thanks guys

 

It all depends.....   from what I can see from pics....  no...  was it moving under it's own power? It has to be, in order to be qualified as self propelled.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Friday, October 6, 2006 10:56 PM
dumb question but i figured i would ask :) would the leopold railgun qualify i doubt it but worth a shot. thanks guys
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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, October 6, 2006 9:50 PM
 Shellback wrote:

This one looks pretty well blackened .

Thanks Gun Tech .  Thumbs Up [tup]

 

My pleasure, I've got a lot of pictures of one surviving example in Sinsheim. Tell me if you want any.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, October 6, 2006 7:06 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:

This one looks pretty well blackened .

Thanks Gun Tech .  Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, October 6, 2006 2:14 PM
 Shellback wrote:

Not much paint damage on the front hull or superstucture in these pictures . Maybe some "sooting " is about all that would happen . The Tamiya kit mentions the "steel ring counterweight " but its not in the parts , should be easy to scratchbuild .

This one has the conterweight

 

This one doesn't have it

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, October 6, 2006 1:28 PM

Not much paint damage on the front hull or superstucture in these pictures . Maybe some "sooting " is about all that would happen . The Tamiya kit mentions the "steel ring counterweight " but its not in the parts , should be easy to scratchbuild .

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, October 6, 2006 1:14 PM
More great pictures !  Thanks Gun Tech and PanzerWulf   Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Friday, October 6, 2006 12:42 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:

Laugh [(-D]  You can use one of the crewman as a cleaning brush! 

ya mean like this

it has a 38cm/380mm/15in bore

Now that is one BIG BAD TIGGER!!!

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, October 6, 2006 12:19 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:
 

Great picture ! That brings up a question . With all of that flame from the rocket what would the paint on the front of a Sturmtiger look like . I've seen models ( done one myself ) with the paint on the front superstructure looking the same as the rest of the vehicle . It would seem that the paint would show seriouse damage . If i build this thing again it will be the Tamiya 1/35 kit . Previousely i built one using the Verlinden resin superstructure on a Tamiya Tiger 1 hull . Thats a big hunk of resin , weighs maybe 1/2 lb .

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, October 6, 2006 10:59 AM
 Yann Solo wrote:

He He!  I wouldn't use the word "miniature" for a Sturmtiger.Big Smile [:D]

Laugh [(-D]  You can use one of the crewman as a cleaning brush! 

I love that pic 

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Posted by Yann Solo on Friday, October 6, 2006 6:55 AM
 Will7813 wrote:

Ok, I changed the name, and you can use the Sturmtiger because mortars are really just miniture artillery pieces, but keeping with the theme, it still has to be SP (Mortar carrying tanks, half-tracks, etc.). However, If a few people say the Sturmtiger shouldn't be there, I'll go with that, although I'll keep the mortar thing. Comet - No, you can't use the whateveritis, because it is a TD as Gun Tech said.

Will

He He!  I wouldn't use the word "miniature" for a Sturmtiger.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 6, 2006 4:46 AM

Ok, I changed the name, and you can use the Sturmtiger because mortars are really just miniture artillery pieces, but keeping with the theme, it still has to be SP (Mortar carrying tanks, half-tracks, etc.). However, If a few people say the Sturmtiger shouldn't be there, I'll go with that, although I'll keep the mortar thing. Comet - No, you can't use the whateveritis, because it is a TD as Gun Tech said.

Will

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Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:44 PM

 Comet wrote:
I just wondered if the Selbstfahrlafette Sturer Emil would qualify?

I'm not up to speed with German WW2 armour but really fancy building one of these as they are on offer at my LHS and this GB would be a good excuse to buy one.Big Smile [:D]

 

It qualifies as a heavy panzerjager.......  tank destroyer....... not a self propelled howitzer.       You should still get it though, as it is a good subject. I got mine in the stash and it looks big!!! Just waiting for free time to buid it.  Yann did one not long ago, and it looked awesome!

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:26 PM
I just wondered if the Selbstfahrlafette Sturer Emil would qualify?

I'm not up to speed with German WW2 armour but really fancy building one of these as they are on offer at my LHS and this GB would be a good excuse to buy one.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:48 PM
The range for the Sturmtiger was about 4,600m.......   I would say that it might qualify. It used rocket assisted ammunition. And it not really a mortar, as these are usually smooth bored. The sturmtiger had a rifling to impregnate a  rotating movement to the projectile to stabilise it and give it more range.... and also used indirect fire.......   a bit like a artillerie piece....

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:37 PM

I don't know, what sort of ranges was the Sturmtiger used at, and did it get given co-ordinates to fire at for the troops, or did it advance with the troops?

Will

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:18 PM

This sounds interesting . I've never participated in a GB before . I was curriouse if the Sturmtiger assault mortar would qualify ? If not thats fine . I'm sure i have a kit of a self propelled howitzer in my stash.  Smile [:)]

Edit , oops , i see its self propelled artillery .

Shell

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:04 PM

OK, that was a good response. Everyone is added.

Will

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Posted by Yann Solo on Thursday, October 5, 2006 2:30 PM

All right, thanks.

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