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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:59 AM

For those of you talking about the new Stug III G from Dragon, ya I'm eyeing that kit as well, I may have to add that to the stash for a future project.  Let me know what you guys decide and I'll update the roster accordingly.  Cool [8D]

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Posted by Plastic_Cross on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:15 AM

Scott,

That photo of Albert and his armor is out of what appears to be a German periodical.  It's called Der Landser Nr. 4.  It's an 8 x 6 typeset booklet of about 60 pages....written entirely in German.  I found this while I was in Abesbooks searching for information relating to the Group Build.  It was super cheap and arrived surprisingly fast, considering that it came from a book shop in Germany. 

I thought maybe the text would be the same as what is in Panzer aces...which it could be.  While I can't read German, I can make out that in the 2nd to last paragraph it talks about his "pistole.... seriennummer 5....Mittleren Western willkommen". 

Now I just need to find a picture of him with Falke.

Larry

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:31 AM
 Plastic_Cross wrote:

Scott,

That photo of Albert and his armor is out of what appears to be a German periodical.  It's called Der Landser Nr. 4.  It's an 8 x 6 typeset booklet of about 60 pages....written entirely in German.  I found this while I was in Abesbooks searching for information relating to the Group Build.  It was super cheap and arrived surprisingly fast, considering that it came from a book shop in Germany. 

I thought maybe the text would be the same as what is in Panzer aces...which it could be.  While I can't read German, I can make out that in the 2nd to last paragraph it talks about his "pistole.... seriennummer 5....Mittleren Western willkommen". 

Now I just need to find a picture of him with Falke.

Larry

Wow, you scored with that periodical.  Good luck finding one of him with Falke.  We've only been able to track down one photo of a Nashorn called Falke, and it might not have been his.  Although the pic we found could have been mis-labeled, that happens all the time.  Sigh [sigh]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 2, 2007 10:31 PM

Further to the picture of the Jagd I posted earlier I'v been trying to find the correct camo and have come up with these two examples.......

Just wondered if anyone has any input on this as I really know very little about the scheme's the German's usedConfused [%-)]

Also from the picture I'm thinking it does'nt have zimm(thank god)any view's guy's? 

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Posted by Lethal19 on Saturday, February 3, 2007 2:54 PM
The paint job would depend on the time frame that you are using most Tanks built before 44 had the dark yellow base with the green and brown or red camo but after 44 they would change to the dark green base with yellow and brown camo. And the same goes for Zim it was discontinued somewhere around sept of 44 but someone here might be able to tell you better on the zim
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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, February 3, 2007 3:46 PM
Actually while the dark green base was official after April 1944, it really wasn't used much. Only on Panthers in great numbers, and some Jagdpanthers. Many post '44 Jagdpanther had dark yellow base.

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 7:04 PM

 Hermesminiatures wrote:
Actually while the dark green base was official after April 1944, it really wasn't used much. Only on Panthers in great numbers, and some Jagdpanthers. Many post '44 Jagdpanther had dark yellow base.

Correct, in fact, even though the dark green was supposed to be official after April 1944, it's full implementation wasn't supposed to happen until June 1945.... but the war was already over by then.

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 10:44 AM
Also, lead oxide primer was the common base with green and dark yellow camo from November '44 onwards. Apparently it was too wasteful to apply two overall coats.

Jonathan

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Posted by psychoblue23 on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 10:08 PM

Hello Gentlemen, How are the builds coming along?

So I am finally back. After I think 2 or 3 weeks? I have moved into my new apt and am almost 100% moved in. Just need a few odds and ends that go along with starting over in a new place.

No building yet... I have jsut started orginizing my new building station. Glad to be back and cant wait to start building.

Heres a few quick pics of the place and my new corner haha. See ya guys around..

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 10:39 PM
Glad to see you're getting settled in Psychoblue23, hope you can get back to modeling and having some fun soon! Smile [:)]

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Posted by bufflehead on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 11:59 PM

Hey!  Welcome back James!  Glad to see you're settling into your new place.  Start getting that Barkmann Panther going, I expect to see some progress when I return from China!!Big Smile [:D]  JK, who am I to say anything, I haven't had a chance to start anything on my King Tiger!Taped Shut [XX] 

Sooo, I need to bring some reading material for my flight this weekend.  Any suggestions??  I was thinking of picking up Panzer Aces I & II (easy to find at any Barnes & Nobles) but if anyone has a better recommendation, I'm all ears.  I was also thinking of getting The Rising Tide by Jeff Shaara.  More of a fiction book , but I enjoyed Gods & Generals so I thought it might be decent reading entertainment. 

I'll be back from my trip in late Feb, so I won't be able to start my KT build until the first weekend in March....I hope!

Ernest

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Posted by bufflehead on Thursday, February 8, 2007 12:03 AM

 Hermesminiatures wrote:
Also, lead oxide primer was the common base with green and dark yellow camo from November '44 onwards. Apparently it was too wasteful to apply two overall coats.

Thanks to you and Scott for the info on the late war base coats.  I had no idea that they had changed from dark yellow to green or even used the red primer as the base coat.  Very interesting. 

Ernest

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, February 8, 2007 9:53 AM
 bufflehead wrote:

Hey!  Welcome back James!  Glad to see you're settling into your new place.  Start getting that Barkmann Panther going, I expect to see some progress when I return from China!!Big Smile [:D]  JK, who am I to say anything, I haven't had a chance to start anything on my King Tiger!Taped Shut [XX] 

Sooo, I need to bring some reading material for my flight this weekend.  Any suggestions??  I was thinking of picking up Panzer Aces I & II (easy to find at any Barnes & Nobles) but if anyone has a better recommendation, I'm all ears.  I was also thinking of getting The Rising Tide by Jeff Shaara.  More of a fiction book , but I enjoyed Gods & Generals so I thought it might be decent reading entertainment. 

I'll be back from my trip in late Feb, so I won't be able to start my KT build until the first weekend in March....I hope!

I've read Panzer Aces I and really enjoyed it (although some chapters are better than others), so that would be good to bring on the plane.  I have Panzer Aces II is in the queue after I finish 12th SS. 

Enjoy your trip and we'll be here when you get back.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by psychoblue23 on Thursday, February 8, 2007 10:55 AM
 bufflehead wrote:

Hey!  Welcome back James!  Glad to see you're settling into your new place.  Start getting that Barkmann Panther going, I expect to see some progress when I return from China!!Big Smile [:D]  JK, who am I to say anything, I haven't had a chance to start anything on my King Tiger!Taped Shut [XX] 

Sooo, I need to bring some reading material for my flight this weekend.  Any suggestions??  I was thinking of picking up Panzer Aces I & II (easy to find at any Barnes & Nobles) but if anyone has a better recommendation, I'm all ears.  I was also thinking of getting The Rising Tide by Jeff Shaara.  More of a fiction book , but I enjoyed Gods & Generals so I thought it might be decent reading entertainment. 

I'll be back from my trip in late Feb, so I won't be able to start my KT build until the first weekend in March....I hope!

wow china, thats exciting. What for? And what part? Thx for the welcome back!

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Posted by Plastic_Cross on Thursday, February 8, 2007 12:04 PM

I would recommend a book that I am in the midst of reading.  It doesn't provide details of specific tank commanders, but rather provides insight into the strategy and tactics employed in North Africa and the Eastern Front.  The author was an WWII German Intelligence officer and gives first hand accounts of events, along with his thoughts and impressions. 

Panzer Battles : A Study of the Employment of Armor in the Second World War

 by F. W. von Mellenthin

Larry

 

 

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, February 8, 2007 12:10 PM
 Plastic_Cross wrote:

I would recommend a book that I am in the midst of reading.  It doesn't provide details of specific tank commanders, but rather provides insight into the strategy and tactics employed in North Africa and the Eastern Front.  The author was an WWII German Intelligence officer and gives first hand accounts of events, along with his thoughts and impressions. 

Panzer Battles : A Study of the Employment of Armor in the Second World War

 by F. W. von Mellenthin

Larry

Great book!  I read that on a trip to the Bay Area for a training seminar many years ago.  Very ironic, F.W. von Mellenthin's granddaughter was sitting at the same table with me at the seminar and noticed I had the book with me and introduced herself.  Very cool, she told me a lot about her Grandfather.  Small world eh?

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Posted by bufflehead on Thursday, February 8, 2007 1:28 PM
 psychoblue23 wrote:
 bufflehead wrote:

Hey!  Welcome back James!  Glad to see you're settling into your new place.  Start getting that Barkmann Panther going, I expect to see some progress when I return from China!!Big Smile [:D]  JK, who am I to say anything, I haven't had a chance to start anything on my King Tiger!Taped Shut [XX] 

Sooo, I need to bring some reading material for my flight this weekend.  Any suggestions??  I was thinking of picking up Panzer Aces I & II (easy to find at any Barnes & Nobles) but if anyone has a better recommendation, I'm all ears.  I was also thinking of getting The Rising Tide by Jeff Shaara.  More of a fiction book , but I enjoyed Gods & Generals so I thought it might be decent reading entertainment. 

I'll be back from my trip in late Feb, so I won't be able to start my KT build until the first weekend in March....I hope!

wow china, thats exciting. What for? And what part? Thx for the welcome back!

Just for a vacation.  Going to Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Hainan & Macau.  2 weeks of no work, relaxation, sunshine, pretty girlsSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] and a trip or two to a hobby store for some serious model shopping!!!  I wonder how many Tristar & Dragon kits I can fit into my luggage??Big Smile [:D]

 

Ernest

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Posted by bufflehead on Thursday, February 8, 2007 1:31 PM
 Plastic_Cross wrote:

I would recommend a book that I am in the midst of reading.  It doesn't provide details of specific tank commanders, but rather provides insight into the strategy and tactics employed in North Africa and the Eastern Front.  The author was an WWII German Intelligence officer and gives first hand accounts of events, along with his thoughts and impressions. 

Panzer Battles : A Study of the Employment of Armor in the Second World War

 by F. W. von Mellenthin

Larry

Thanks Larry!  Sounds quite interesting!  I'll add that to the list....I hope I can find it in time!

Ernest

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 9, 2007 12:41 AM
hey guys, would it be kool if i could join your GB? I havent built a kit for over a year and this would be good to get my game back. if im able to join i'll either do a tiger1 late ace yet undecided or a tiger 2 ace undecided i'll wait for your reply thanks
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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Friday, February 9, 2007 7:01 AM
You can certainly join if you wish. Check out the list on the first page for some aces, or let us know if you want to do one not listed.

Jonathan

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Posted by Plastic_Cross on Friday, February 9, 2007 8:20 AM
 bufflehead wrote:
     

Thanks Larry!  Sounds quite interesting!  I'll add that to the list....I hope I can find it in time!

By mistake I ordered 2 of these books.  I would be more than happy to send you one of them ASAP since I don't need two, and the books only cost me a couple of bucks.

Larry

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, February 9, 2007 9:41 AM

 Butterz007 wrote:
hey guys, would it be kool if i could join your GB? I havent built a kit for over a year and this would be good to get my game back. if im able to join i'll either do a tiger1 late ace yet undecided or a tiger 2 ace undecided i'll wait for your reply thanks

You bet!  Welcome aboard! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

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Posted by psychoblue23 on Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:57 PM

sweeet my desk is FINALLY ready ..

HaHa I hella snagged the cool Tamiya sign from work. Its almsot time to prepare to TCS so we got two of them for the store. I took one home ^_^ ssshhhhh

Soo back to work. I found a Osprey book at work titled Panther Medium Tank 1942-45 it has some decent photos and a large color photo od the panther D. So should get some info from there.

Question: Has anyone used the MicroMark quiet compressor that is on their website for $199.99? I am thinking most of my painting will prolly be done at night and I live upstairs so to be nice to my neighbors below I want to have a low noise compressor. The description does not say if it has or is possible to add a regulator. It jsut states 20 - 50 psi possible. Any help on this would be great. Heres a link...

http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=81748

My other option is to maybe run a longer hose to the airbrush and leave the compressor on the balcony? Has anyone tried this before? Will the long hose give me problems? My Paasche D500SR has a regulator and moisture trap so Im thinking im ok.. jsut not sure if the long hose will give me probs..

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Posted by espins1 on Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:15 PM

Glad to see you have a nice setup now psychoblue23., and love the Tamiya banner.

I'm afraid I can't really help you with your compressor issues, I barely know enough about mine to be able to airbrush.  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by the Postman on Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:59 PM
 psychoblue23 wrote:

[img]Question: Has anyone used the MicroMark quiet compressor that is on their website for $199.99? I am thinking most of my painting will prolly be done at night and I live upstairs so to be nice to my neighbors below I want to have a low noise compressor. The description does not say if it has or is possible to add a regulator. It jsut states 20 - 50 psi possible. Any help on this would be great. Heres a link...

http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=81748

My other option is to maybe run a longer hose to the airbrush and leave the compressor on the balcony? Has anyone tried this before? Will the long hose give me problems? My Paasche D500SR has a regulator and moisture trap so Im thinking im ok.. jsut not sure if the long hose will give me probs..

psychoblue-

Glad to see that your workbench has come together. My 2 cents [2c] I can't tell you anything about Micromark's compressor, but all the hand tools I've bought from them are top notch. When I get the chance to paint I'll run 2 hoses,(25' of hose total) with a moisture trap halfway in between. I'm using a Campbell-Hausfield 2 1/2 gal. compressor w/ built in regulator, that I picked up @ Wally World (Wal-Mart) for about $80. I've just begun to use my Badger Universal 360 and the only problem I've had thus far has been with the regulator setting. I didn't have line of sight to the compressor and didn't realize that the pressure had slipped down from 20psi to about 5psi. Won't make that mistake again....Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me.

If you could set up your compressor on the balcony so you could see it thru the door/window...I'd say go for it. Your lucky to able to paint inside! Even if I had a spraybooth, I don't think the Mrs. would let me paint in the house Sigh [sigh]. I'll build that workshop one day!Big Smile [:D] For now tho, I'll wait for warm, clear, calm days. Best of luck.

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:26 PM
The Micro-Mark compressor is a diaphragm model, so it will tend to have slightly fluctuating air pressure. Not an issue as long as you don't plan to be painting hairlines. I'd say that putting the compressor on the balcony would work as long as it's 50 degrees or better outside, because spraying with cold air will cause the paint to perform poorly. Also check out bearair.com - I've gotten all my airbrushing equipment from them and they have a good selection of compressors.

Jonathan

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:39 PM
 Plastic_Cross wrote:
 bufflehead wrote:
     

Thanks Larry!  Sounds quite interesting!  I'll add that to the list....I hope I can find it in time!

By mistake I ordered 2 of these books.  I would be more than happy to send you one of them ASAP since I don't need two, and the books only cost me a couple of bucks.

Larry

Larry, I curse myself for not asking for the book recommendation earlier.  Thanks so very much for your offer, but I don't think I could get the book in time since I am leaving on my trip tomorrow morning.  I haven't been able to get to a computer until just now so I guess its too late.   I did pick up Panzer Aces I but couldn't find Panzer Battles.  I'll keep looking and I can still read it when I return!

Again, thanks for your generous offer Larry!

Ernest

 

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:48 PM

 Hermesminiatures wrote:
The Micro-Mark compressor is a diaphragm model, so it will tend to have slightly fluctuating air pressure. Not an issue as long as you don't plan to be painting hairlines. I'd say that putting the compressor on the balcony would work as long as it's 50 degrees or better outside, because spraying with cold air will cause the paint to perform poorly. Also check out bearair.com - I've gotten all my airbrushing equipment from them and they have a good selection of compressors.

James,  I'd have to agree with Hermesminiatures.  If you're painting at night in the Bay Area its been a bit chilly lately (nothing like the midwest though!).  I would avoid putting the compressor outside at night.  You might have moisture problems even with a moisture trap.  I use a simple Badger compressor (can't remember the model #) and it seems kinda loud when I'm sitting right next to it, but from downstairs I can't hear it at all.  Right now I'm in my buddy's living room in LA and his saltwater fish tank is louder than my compressor! 

BTW, luv your Tamiya sign!!

Ernest

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:00 PM

I've never tried airbrushing with the compressor outside....it's -20 degrees here at night right now and once it's nicer it will be humid.....ah, Wisconsin. Horrible airbrushing weatherWink [;)]

On the other hand, vibration is often a big part of the noise that airbrush compressors cause. I put mine on a piece of hard styrofoam which in turn I put on a piece of soft packing foam, and than set it on the table rather than the floor. Removing vibration will drastically cut any volume heard in lower level.


 

Jonathan

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Posted by psychoblue23 on Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:09 AM
wow thanks guys... I will try the reducing vibrations method first. Maybe ill jsut drop by the neighbors and ask if it bothers them. If its a prob then maybe Ill think about the MM comp. My co-worker mentioned that his badger was real quiet also... sicne he paints in his shed maybe we can arrange a trade haha. Thx again guys.
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