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Posted by DesertRat on Friday, December 21, 2007 2:34 PM
 FeldMarSchall Model wrote:

DesertRat-The main landing gear tires are painted chrome silver, the hups are flat black.  The instrutions say to paint them a mix of orange and steel or somthing like that.  I know the main front gear is all black, but coudn't find a good clear picture of the rear. 

 

Desert Rat- good look with your moving. 

Ok, now that's really unusual! I wonder what the point of that is. But nonetheless, she looks great!

   Thanks for the kinda words. I managed to clear quarters on saturday. Now i'm just wondering if i'll see any of my security deposit back. Budget cuts to the Full Time Guard here has resulted in the termination of my technician position, so while i'm "the guy on the couch" to my brothers, i'm hitting up job interviews here. But at least the move is done for now. Now i've just got to get back on track here and get a new career going.

   But for the time being, i had a chance to get online for a little bit, and i figured i would check in with you guys here. This weekend is going to be hectic, so watch out for the combat shoppers, travel safe this holiday season, and have a wonderful christmas season. I wish all of you guys well, and i'll check in with you guys as often as i can. Cheers!Make a Toast [#toast]

  

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Friday, December 14, 2007 6:55 PM
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Posted by ajsr71u2 on Friday, December 14, 2007 1:11 PM

Hi

Picture of the SR-71 Wheel/ hubs

ALAN

 

 

 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, December 14, 2007 12:02 PM

DesertRat-The main landing gear tires are painted chrome silver, the hups are flat black.  The instrutions say to paint them a mix of orange and steel or somthing like that.  I know the main front gear is all black, but coudn't find a good clear picture of the rear. 

 

Desert Rat- good look with your moving. 

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Posted by DesertRat on Friday, December 14, 2007 12:53 AM

Wow, she is pretty, FMM! Very well done! Now i wanna do one even more!

I do have one queston though. Looking at the pictures posted, i've noticed that the rear landing gear tires are grey. Wouldn't they be black? Just curious...

 

Hey guys, just a heads up. I'm gonna be on the forums a little less frequently than i had been before. I'm actually in the  middle of moving out of my apartment now (rent issues) and it's gonna take me awhile until i can get set up elsewhere; or at least get some kind of stability happening here and I can be a little more predictible. No worries, guys. I'm not gonna be disappearing for months on end. Just a bit of a snag is all. Cheers!

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:21 PM

Well I think I'm finished with this tricky blackbird, It was a great feeling when I hung her up.  The canopys have a nice shine on them, after dipping them in future.  What do you think?

 

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Posted by DesertRat on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:06 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhh, gotcha! I didn't think about the tail numbers. My bad! But i'm trackin now...Dunce [D)]

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Monday, December 10, 2007 6:40 PM
Yeah I would say the red lines really stand out,  the two long ones were trickie to move.  Now about what # was going to do was at first 17976, the one with the tiger on the tail.  But in making decals, I ran into a problem with the decals losing there color's as soon as you move them off the paper.  So I decided to go number 17972, the decal sheet with the kit came with markings for 972.  But I'm really happy with how it turned out.

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Posted by DesertRat on Monday, December 10, 2007 5:18 PM
Wow, FMM! That looks great! Even better than the previous blackbird you did a few years back! And i have to say that the red decals against black sure look more bold than they did on my Dragon Lady too. Not sure what you mean about the 976 and 972. Am i correct to assume that you printed these up?

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Monday, December 10, 2007 1:40 PM

Here's another update, just about finished with decals.  And some small tounch up work, but she's just about done.  I did make some decals from the 976 blackbird, but when you apply the decal from the paper to the plane its like the decals loses it's color and fades.  I was using decal sheets made from Testors, so I just went with blackbird 972.

 

 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:26 AM

Thats very interesting aki30,  I might just have to try that.  Just the other day I installed the main landing gear with doors, and the front land gear.  I started applying the deals last night, and they rip to easly.  So before I quited for the night I sprayed on decal bonder, to see is that helps any.  They were ripping way to easy, the smooth gloss surface does let the decals slide easyer.

 

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, December 8, 2007 9:53 AM

Not to jump into build I'm not part of, but I will anyway Big Smile [:D]

A good Future tutorial:

http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

Also, IL, simply spraying a gloss coat after decaling will not stop silvering.  Decal silvering is caused by air bubbles trapped under the decal.  The key to stopping silvering is a gloss surface to eliminate microscopic ridges and valleys present on matte surfaces, and multiple techniques to work air bubbles out from under the decal i.e. rolling a damp cotton swab over the decal, pricking the decal and applying decal softner.  I have heard some people pricking stubborn decals and brush applying Future to the decal to eliminate the silvering.  I haven't tried that technique myself. 

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Posted by DesertRat on Friday, December 7, 2007 11:55 PM

Thanks for clarifying that, guys. I thought there was a possibility that i had missed something...

 

She is lookin great, FMM! I especially appreciate the head first shot ya posted. Makes you really appreciate her sleek bodylines!Cool [8D]

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Roger

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Thursday, December 6, 2007 11:53 AM

Well heres what she look's like with her landing gear installed.  Front gear isn't glued still working on that.

 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 10:22 PM
Yes it say's, flat paint (flat black), glosscoat.  Then dullcoat.

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 9:38 PM

 DesertRat wrote:
So, dullcote, gloss, then dullcote?

Here's what I do:

1) Paint Scheme
2) Acrylic Gloss
3) Decals
4) Acrylic Gloss (prevents decal silvering)
5) Weathering Layer
6) Final finish (matte, flat, semi, etc)

Check out this website.  I learned a TON reading his tutorial:
http://www.world-war-2-airplane-model.com/

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 8:40 PM
paint, gloss, dull. And clean out that AB real well after the Future, it dries hard and durable, like for a floor.
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Posted by DesertRat on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 7:52 PM
 FeldMarSchall Model wrote:

Yeah that's what I was thinking, of just spraying on future straight on.  In the directions given by testor's it say's, somthing like "After spray on a flat coat, spray on a gloss coat. 

So, dullcote, gloss, then dullcote?

Or do you mean flat paint, gloss, dullcote? If it's the former instead of the latter, then maybe i had found my problem......

Guess i'm a bit confused...

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 4:34 PM

I haven't tried future yet. I use this stuff religiously for gloss coats:
I buy it at michaels crafts


http://www.createforless.com/products/productDetail.asp?ProductID=67147&utm_source=shopDT&utm_medium=cse&zmam=1612697&zmas=1&zmac=18&zmap=85297066

Then I dull coat with Polyscale flat acrylic through my airbrush.

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 3:54 PM

Yeah that's what I was thinking, of just spraying on future straight on.  In the directions given by testor's it say's, somthing like "After spray on a flat coat, spray on a gloss coat.  Decals inhere better to smooth shiny surface than a flat"  Then it says after applying your decals to, spray on a dull coat to seal them in and to seal the plane.

 

I've used dull coat on my other blackbird, to see what it looks like.  But after drying it left a bubblie effect to it, don't know why?  I am thinking about redoing my other SR-71B model, that one was among my first every models I put together.  I think I would be able to do it, just some work on area's that didn't go together right.  And repainting the main landing gear, and front gear.  I even made a copy of the decal sheet, before it gets cut up.

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Posted by DesertRat on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:51 PM

With the future, i just sprayed it on straight without thinning or anything and it went on fine without diluting it. Also used windex to clean up after (which also left my airbrush smelling like mountain berriesWhistling [:-^])

On reading in other posts on the subject, i've read many people will just brush it on, as it is self levelling. Of course i decided against that just because i didn't have a brush wide enough to be efficient. Although in trying to dullcote after the future, i wonder if maybe less would have been better to get the ironball effect on my build. I'm wondering if maybe using the future sparingly in your case might be a good odea. Just thinking out loud....

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:59 PM

Thanks guys for you commets,  I can really say that I'm very happy with the end result.  Like what DesertRat sayed about skills improving, my skills weren't that great up till I found the mag FineScale Modeler and this site.  It's almost funny and horrable, of the job I did on my first models.  I got them for x-mas, 1/48 117 NightHawk and 1/48 SR-71 Blackbird.  At the time I was just getting into liking the blackbird, so I didn't put the right stuff on it for the B model.

 

I would say by the end of the week, maybe Saturday I'll have her done and ready for test flight and pictures.  Only got one question about what some people put on there models to seal the decals in Furture, the floor cleaning bottle.  I've heard you got to us it in a air brush to apply it on, but how much to you put in and how much paint thinner if you put paint thinner in?  Thanks!

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:41 PM

 DesertRat wrote:
Now, how would the older style tube glue be used?

In the door locks of your enemies, and thats about it,LOL

I use the "gap filler" super glue which comes in a green labeled bottle. It doesn't dry as fast as I'd like, but after a couple of minutes it takes a pretty good set. Several advantages are that it works ok for prepainted parts, it glues disimilar materials together like wood, plastic, resin and its all that works to glue photoetch, except epoxy and ?? Initially you'll have to learn how to keep it from running around- it has an annoying tendency to run down a groove and into the space between your fingertip and the model. But be sparing in quantity and glue "downhill" from your clamp/ fingers and it cruises. It will fog clear parts unless you dip them in Future first. And although its used to fill gaps, it is really hard to sand once it is cured.

Good luck with that.

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Posted by DesertRat on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 11:57 AM
Thanks for the advice! I too think that i should get some of the plastic sheet stock, but i haven't actually gotten around to that yet. Makes plenty of sense though. But i have to admit, the comments on glue is interesting! I use the MM liquid cement on account that the bottle is easier to handle and the thin metal tube makes controling the cement easier to manage. Now, how would the older style tube glue be used? And super glue- I've heard of people using that for their builds. And i know that it's a stronger bond but when it comes to modelling and joining different smaller pieces together, what's the difference? I'm interested to know how having a variety of glues can help. Thanks!

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Roger

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 11:05 AM

I think you're coming along great, DesertRat :)

The more models I build, this is what I seem to discover over and over again:
You have to constantly watch your results so that you can modify your method
for the given scenario.  In other words: no two part are ever sanded, painted,
or glued the same way.  The best result comes from looking at each small step
(like bonding an antenna) as it's own project, and then deciding what tools,
processes, and materials will yield the best approach.  Slowly, all of these
mini projects will come together as a fine model.

I only mention it because I find myself still learning this now after many years!

The other thing I recommend to new modellers is to use many different materials.
Don't just stick to the plastic parts in the kit, use anything you can find.  Staples
and paperclips make great probes / antennas.  Wire mesh is great for inlet ducts.
If you don't have them already, buy some plastic sheet stock of various thicknesses
for the occasional scrap-built part.  Also, use lots of different glues.  Sometimes
I prefer liquid cement, other times tube cement.  Lately I'm using lots of superglue
for small parts.

Cheers.

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Posted by DesertRat on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 3:30 AM
Thanks guys! I'm probably more glad that i finally got a completion here. I do hope that after some more practice and refinements, i might actually be mistaken for a modeller!Blush [:I]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 3:00 AM
Great Lockheed birds, FMM and Desert Rat. Roger, over the fence and into the bar, congrats on finishing. FMM that is looking great.
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Posted by DesertRat on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 2:27 AM
 IL2windhawk wrote:

That SR-71 makes me drool, FMM!  Now I want to build one.

I know! Me too....!Tongue [:P]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:49 AM

Great work, both of you Gentlemen.

That SR-71 makes me drool, FMM!  Now I want to build one.

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