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War in the Desert - African campaign GB - 12/9/07 to 5/13/08

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:41 AM

Don't have any specific link for Allied hardware, but the most used aircraft were probably the Hawker Hurricane, Supermarine Spitfire & Curtiss P-40M.  I'm not an Armor guy, but I know the Crusader played a significant role for the Allies.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:44 AM
 darson wrote:

Hey Scotty, I saw this great looking Honey on Hyperscale this morning and thought you might be interested.

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/britain/stuarthoneyshl_1.html

Cheers

Thanks Darren!  Smile [:)]

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Posted by jthurston on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:11 PM
 Townsy11 wrote:

SWEET

I was hesitant about joining before but after seeing all the badges I'm definently in! I'll be doing Tamiya's ancient 1/35 Panzer IV Ausf.D I'm gonna make it primarily a painting/weathering project so I wont buy any aftermarket sets.

Hey, I've been considering that one as well. I mean, not for this build, but just in general.

My Panzer II is gonna be OOB also, which will be a first for me (at least, the first one in a long time).

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:18 PM
 dupes wrote:

Hmmm....been poking around trying to find some sort of armor/aircraft list for the Nth Africa Campaign - not coming up with much that isn't German. Sigh [sigh]

Anybody have some sort of link that includes some info about the other five countries involved?

Lot's of goodies to choose from

British
M4 Sherman
M3 Grant/Lee
Matilda II
Crusader
Bren
M3 Honey
Various scout cars
Spitfire
Hurricane
Tomahawk
Beaufighter
Boston

American
M4 Sherman
M2A2 Halftrack, bunch of variants
Jeep
M3 Stuart
M7 Priest
P-40 Warhawk
Spitfire
P-38 Lightning
F4F Wildcat
Dauntless
B-25 Mitchell
B-26 Marauder

Italian
M13/40
Semovente

And that's just for starters.  I'll add to the list later.... heading off to the gym for lunch.  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:10 PM
 jgeratic1 wrote:

Question - which badge do I use since it is an american tank, but in british markings?

My recommendation is to use the Badge for the Brits/Commonwealth.  That's what I've done with my build, which is an American plane (the P-40) flown by a RAF squadron.

Mark

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Posted by dostacos on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:17 PM
 Mark Joyce wrote:
 jgeratic1 wrote:

Question - which badge do I use since it is an american tank, but in british markings?

My recommendation is to use the Badge for the Brits/Commonwealth.  That's what I've done with my build, which is an American plane (the P-40) flown by a RAF squadron.

Mark

sounds good to me, I plan on doing a P40 in British colors, a Spitfire in American colors, and a Honey plus something German, air and armorWhistling [:-^]

 

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:47 PM
 espins1 wrote:

Lot's of goodies to choose from

British
M4 Sherman
M3 Grant/Lee
Matilda II
Crusader
Bren
M3 Honey
Various scout cars
Spitfire
Hurricane
Tomahawk
Beaufighter
Boston

American
M4 Sherman
M2A2 Halftrack, bunch of variants
Jeep
M3 Stuart
M7 Priest
P-40 Warhawk
Spitfire
P-38 Lightning
F4F Wildcat
Dauntless
B-25 Mitchell
B-26 Marauder

Italian
M13/40
Semovente

And that's just for starters.  I'll add to the list later.... heading off to the gym for lunch.  Big Smile [:D]

Dang! That's an awfully good start....but how about the French and Polish? Big Smile [:D]

Thanks Espins!

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:48 PM

 

Just to add a bit to the Italian list of subjects:

CV.33 and 35 tankette
Carro Armato L.6/40
Carro Armato M.11/39
Autoblinda
Sahariana
81mm mortar
47/32 AT gun
Cannon 105/28
149/35 Royal Army Cannon
Flak Cannon 90/53
Truck w/mounted 90/53 gun
Tractor TL37
Fiat and Lancia trucks

note: there was a lot of WW1 artillery still in use

Fiat CR.32
Fiat CR.42
Fiat G50 ‘Freccia’
Macchi MC.200 'Saetta'
Macchi MC.202 'Folgore
Fiat Br.20
S.M. 79 ‘Sparviero’
CantZ 1007b. ‘Alcione’

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Posted by Townsy11 on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:34 PM
Is it possible to make a Canadian badge? because I was going to build a M3 Stuart in Canadian markings along side the Pz.IV.
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:52 PM
As part of the commonwealth during the war we Canucks were always considered part of the British Empire... as were all the other commonwealth countries.

Dave

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:09 PM
I'm sure Canadian individuals did serve in North Africa, but they were mixed in with other Commonwealth troops/units.  With regards to the Mediterranean theatre, the first totally canuck units landed in Sicily on July 10th, 1943. These being the 1st Canadian Infantry Division and the 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade.

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:27 AM
I'm holding off a little because I've got to finish another GB first, but add Beaufighter to the US list. 414 Squadron, "First Over", in Tunisia. I've got a bunch of pics. Unfortunately, no accurate color info, but I'd welcome that from anyone.
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Posted by Leaadas on Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:53 AM
I would be interested in joining doing a P-38, but in a very limited search I couldn't find out what kind of paint scheme they had in North Africa. Was it all NMF? If so I will have to pass as I think a NMF is beyond my modeling skills at this time.
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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:06 AM

 Leaadas wrote:
I would be interested in joining doing a P-38, but in a very limited search I couldn't find out what kind of paint scheme they had in North Africa. Was it all NMF? If so I will have to pass as I think a NMF is beyond my modeling skills at this time.

Based on my limited research (and the Pro-Modeler kit I have in the stash) they were OD/grey and the F or G versions.  If memory serves me correct, Meteor has some decals that fit the theme.

Bob

 

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:37 AM

 Leaadas wrote:
I would be interested in joining doing a P-38, but in a very limited search I couldn't find out what kind of paint scheme they had in North Africa. Was it all NMF? If so I will have to pass as I think a NMF is beyond my modeling skills at this time.

I'm away from my sources at this time, but I believe that Bob is right and that most if not all P-38s that flew in North Africa were OD/NG.  Here's mine from about a year ago, with custom markings for a friend who flew in North Africa with the 14th FG/37th FS.  This is the Monogram (AKA Hasegawa) kit that includes decals for 'Tangerine' that also flew in North Africa:

Mark

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Posted by Leaadas on Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:41 AM

Thanks for the information! I will look into a kit and get back to you guys hopefully later today but by the weekend for sure,

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Posted by jthurston on Thursday, November 1, 2007 12:56 PM

Just a little side note here, but I love these GBs that include both armor and A/C. It's a good way to raise interest in modeling subjects outside of your usual scope.

I'm trying to decide which unit to assign my PzII to. I probably have the markings for just about everything.

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Posted by Townsy11 on Thursday, November 1, 2007 4:12 PM

 jgeratic1 wrote:
I'm sure Canadian individuals did serve in North Africa, but they were mixed in with other Commonwealth troops/units.  With regards to the Mediterranean theatre, the first totally canuck units landed in Sicily on July 10th, 1943. These being the 1st Canadian Infantry Division and the 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade.

O ok my bad, I just saw that the decals were included in the Tamiya kit for the 4th Canadian Armoured Brigade and I just assumed that it was in North Africa. I'll just stick with Pz.IV I guess. Thanks.

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Posted by Glamdring on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:07 PM

You can count me in with DML's Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.D 3 in 1. The kit is my congrats present for almost finishing my Tiger for the Kursk GB on time.  Party [party]

I'm very stoked for this one, again....

Robert 

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Posted by ben1227 on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:39 PM

Wish I could buy myself a kit as a present every time I finished one Banged Head [banghead]

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Posted by Glamdring on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:45 PM
I managed to get it cheap off of Ebay, so the near completion was my justification. Finishing one is so rare for me anyways, I wish I had the will power just to buy when one is finished....

Robert 

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Posted by dostacos on Friday, November 2, 2007 12:58 AM

ok, I have an Academy P 40 and some Canadian decals for the British air, I have a Tamiya  Revell Spit for American Air now to find some German Air power....is it December yet?

My son has informed me he does not really want to do airpower so he will be doing US/British/German armor I still plan on doing some armor too {probably in 1/48}Oops [oops]

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Posted by Leaadas on Saturday, November 3, 2007 8:59 AM
Okay I picked up a Revell P-38J but the kit is far from good. Are there any other better quality kits for a P-38 out there?
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, November 3, 2007 9:51 AM

In 1/48, the best P-38 is by Hasegawa with the MRC/Academy second.  In 1/72, the Academy is by far the best.  All IMHO of course.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by Leaadas on Saturday, November 3, 2007 10:23 AM
Thanks for the information.. I will see if I can hunt one of those down. This one is silver plastic(ugh) with raised panel lines and flash as far as the eye can see.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, November 3, 2007 10:59 AM

The kit you have is a re-box of the ancient Monogram kit.  Not a great kit even in it's day.  The Hasegawa tooling is much nicer.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, November 3, 2007 3:49 PM
That Revell/Monogram P-38 is one of the reasons I build armor Dead [xx(]

Jonathan

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Posted by ben1227 on Saturday, November 3, 2007 3:53 PM
That was one of the worst kits I've built so far, about like a Revell P-61...
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Posted by dupes on Saturday, November 3, 2007 3:58 PM

Worst aircraft kit you mean. Big Smile [:D]

I recently threw together a Maquette T-34 which certainly won the award for worst armor kit. Evil [}:)]

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Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, November 3, 2007 4:07 PM
 Hermesminiatures wrote:
That Revell/Monogram P-38 is one of the reasons I build armor Dead [xx(]


That was the last aircraft kit I built, about 2 years ago. I further compounded the headache by doing the nightfighting version. I learned patience from that beast, and that was about it.

I Agree 100%, that is truely a bad kit.

Robert 

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