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ARMOR - Panther (PzKpfw V) Group Build (any scale)

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:27 PM
how are you going to do the zimerate on the Panther A?
on mine i want to do the vertical lines with squaresCaptain [4:-)]
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:17 PM
Not a bad idea, but fortunately we still have time. I could build the Panther A instead........Nah!

"It is well that war is so terible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:48 PM
oh yeah the shipping email them to see how long it takes to get them
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:46 PM
well you could fit them later on, just start on the hull
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:55 PM
I checked my order status from Greatmodels and I'm a little cautious. It says they are searching for my Eduard barrel and tracks. I should have made sure they were in stock. I hope I don't get gipped on shipping again.

As far as the Dragon tracks are concerned, I'd probably use them, I just can't see paying more for Modelkasten tracks as oppossed to the kit itself. I like to be accurate, but not to the point of laying awake all night.My 2 cents [2c]

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:46 PM
my emails down at the moment Banged Head [banghead]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:53 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I am also not getting email when posts are made....had a lot of catching up to do
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:15 PM
the other thing adout the dragon Panther tracks(i dont know if anyones mentioned this) is that they are missing the holes in the track horns
sometimes you can get away with ejector pin marks

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Posted by wipw on Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:38 AM
Wow! Been a lot of posts in the past few days. Ever since they changed the format, I am not getting a lot of the posting notifications. Don't know what's up with that.

Chris, sorry to see you go. But ya gotta do what ya gotta do! I've been wondering about this one myself. I'm still working on my Tiger from the 1/35th build (think I'm about the only one left!)

Eric (Tigerman, Pantherman...wherever or whoever you are today),
You mentioned about the DML tracks in the Panther kits. They look nice, very well cast, and actually look accurate (as opposed to their Elefant tracks), but one thing you gotta remember, every set of injection molded tracks I've seen (with the exception of the Elefant tracks), whether from DML or Tamiya, has had 3 to 5 ejector pin marks on every link. What a pain. The choices are to either ignore them or fill them. I've filled and sanded the "outer" ones on a bunch of the links and it really wasn't too bad. I think it's much easier to do that before gluing the links together. I really think I want to put a set of Model Kasten or Friulmodel on it. But Model Kastens are next to impossible to find, right now.Sad [:(]

My list of parts for this build (assuming I don't try to do the DML with superset) is:

(This is what I have so far)
Tamiya 35065 Panther - This is their old, decrepid, late A kit
Jordi Rubio TG-10 7.5cm Kwk L/70 Barrel (got it before Eduard did theirs)
Armor Research 1006 Engine Deck Vent Screens (beautiful)
Armor Research 5003 Corrected Turret Tamiya Panther A - resin turret including a white metal barrel (won't use the barrel)
Moskit 35-04 Metal Exhaust Pipes (these are cool!)

I am may add:
Independent link tracks of some sort
possible Eduards pe set for this tank, if I can find one, but I'm not going overboard on using these parts. Just a few to "dress it up"

Question [?]Has anyone found a source for a nice machine gun to mount on the commanders turret ring?

And my favorite icon... Banged Head [banghead] ...because that's what I feel like I'm doing most of the time!

Have a great day, y'all;

Bill
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:33 AM
HistoryinScale,
sorry to see you go. i understand abt the back orders and time constraints,
but the build doesn't start until December! Big Smile [:D]
just kidding. do what you gotta do. hope you drop in and visit us once we get going.
hopefully we will give out some info or pics that will aid you when you do get started.

Pantherman Tongue [:P][:0]
now that does have a ring to it!
now all i have to do is hope my various bits get here in time.
and that i get the Pzkpfw IV D off the bench and on the shelf (slacker!!)
been working on the vinyl tracks. they seem to be coming along.
but since it is my first armor kit, i haven't much to compare it to!

ed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:21 AM
Sorry to se you go Historyinscale but it is understandable. Keep us posted when you get it started.


IIRC the Bovington "F" turet was used for target practice after the war and the part on the cart was about all that was left.
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:54 PM
Jon, in a fantasy world. LOL Laugh [(-D] I'll be lucky to complete one, let alone two. I really like the G, dare I say it, it's becoming my favorite tank. I may have to change my name to Pantherman. [:0]

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:55 PM
so tigerman are you going to do both A and G
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:47 PM
Laxman, I would go with the smooth mantlet casing since I believe you have the early Jagdpanther. I have seen the bolted casing on late model versions only. However, since you have both, it might be okay to use the bolted. Didn't help much did I?

Well I ordered my Tamiya tracks and Eduard barrel. Almost didn't order the barrel, but it's going to be an early Christmas present. As a bonus, I finally ordered the Dragon Panther A Late. Wanted it since I saw it. Almost sorry I had Tamiya's G already. Banged Head [banghead] Should be ready to go soon.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:45 PM
hey, just got back from hockey practice and now i think im gonna tackle that jagdpanther (early) from dml. So far i've taken it out of the box and have been admiring the sprues and what not. My main question is that it gives 2 choices for that rectangular thing behind the saukopf manlet, one that looks like cast and another one that has bolts or rivets in it. I want to make a jagdpanther that took part in the Ardennes campaign and was wondering which manlet shield to use. thanks for readin this post

Andrew
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:45 PM
It looks like a tight squeeze, doesn't it?

Is anyone building a Panther F or Panther II?

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Nice photos Jon, that Schmalturm sure looks decayed.


well this it now Censored [censored]


sorry your laeving us Historyinscale Bow [bow]
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:09 PM
Sorry to see you go HistoryinScale, but I totally understand.

Wildwilliam, I'm with you on aftermarket parts, they can really add up. That's why I'm watching what I buy. If I had bought the Dragon Late A, I at least could have saved on tracks.

Thanks Kennethc on the Italeri Jagdpanther, I think I will void that kit.

Nice photos Jon, that Schmalturm sure looks decayed.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:48 PM
Unfortunately I'll be dropping out of the group build...The tank I ordered is back ordered and realistically wont be in until Mid-November....Plus I have so many other builds going on...I want to take my time with my first tank...So Im officially dropping out. I do however promise once I get the tank in and get it build plenty of pictures will be posted. Again thanks to everyone for thier help....and suggestions. Sorry I couldnt participate I just feel its bitting off more than I can chew at present.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:23 PM
some panther photos here from bovington

a late jagdpanther in cactus cammo


a Panther F turret Sigh [sigh]Ashamed [*^_^*]Shock [:O]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by Kumy on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by muzzleflash88

lizard i think dml is superior to tamiya. The models in my opinion are just much better built, fit , finish, etc.

kumakichi, Aberdeen is north of Baltimore by about 1/2 hour or so. I just recently went with a friend from pittsburgh. Maybe if we get enough people together one day we can meet up there. I live about 40 minutes from there. It is free to visit, its just an army base. Well its an incredibile base with lots of history. Smile [:)]

i posted pics in a diff post (http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8891) on the day i went they were using one of the firing ranges and we heard some big guns going off while browsing the "parking lot" of tanks.

I do have TONS and TONS of photos that are unsorted still from over the years Sad [:(] I will try to put up a gallery eventually.




That would be cool. I'm guessing it would be around a 5-6 hr drive for me. But I had no idea thats were it was. Thats so cool. I'll have to plan a trip... maybe for next spring.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:31 AM
well that says it all about the Italeri Jagdpanther lolWhistling [:-^]Whistling [:-^]
with all the PE zimeret out there, make sure its lined up when you glue it
ive got some Molak putty to try (cant get the Tamiya putty hereBanged Head [banghead]
has anyone tryed or even herd of it before
if the sample i try dosnt look good ill do a late panther Pirate [oX)] around Berlin or the seelow hights
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:23 AM
Tigerman... I have whats left of the Italeri JP. Lets put it this way.... I'll pay YOU to take it from me. Not one of their best works. I usually like a little Italeri in my diet but that one just ain't good

Kenneth
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Posted by wildwilliam on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:02 AM
well, i broke down and ordered the Tamiya links.
but that's IT, do you hear me !?!?!Evil [}:)]
no more AM stuff!
i only paid $32.49 (including shipping) for the Panther G (w/ PE Zim)
(knock eBay all you want guys, it leaves more kits for me!!) Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
now i have a $7.60 Grille set, $9 barrel and $17 worth of track links.
so that's $33.60 of goodies !
any savings i enjoyed on the kit ($68 list, $54 at greatmodels) is now spent.

that's why armor is the 'Dark Side' Smile [:)]Tongue [:P]

ed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Pantherlehr, nice of you to tease us with that fine assortment of goodies to go with your late model Panther. It looks like a neat kit.

Sgtreef, what no steel wheel version to choose from? You may have to draw numbers. Big Smile [:D]

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee


Nope no steel wheel version sorry to say LOL

Jeff
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:12 AM
Tigerman i havnt built italeris jagdpanther but ive had there Ausf A panther and bergpanther wasnt impressed with there panther A, but you cant go wrong with the Tamiya Jagdpanther
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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:20 PM
thanks tigerman, i'll give them a look.
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:04 PM
Jon, you seem to have, or built a few Panthers, have you or anyone built an Italeri Jagdpanther? I was impressed with their Sturmtiger. Thanks.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:57 PM
Yes Chris. I have sent checks to www.greatmodels.com . After you're finished filling your cart, they print you a receipt which you mail in with your check. They might do money orders too. It took me about 12 days to get it. That's probably where I'll get the rest of what I need. Good luck.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:55 PM
Yeah i have tons of pics. I only took 190 last week though Cowboy [C):-)]

I have to go back for specific items though because there were so many items there that i could only get the 190 pics that i did. I wanted more time with the brumbar, hetzer, marder, and nashorn but the friend i was with was getting antsy and wanted to head home.

I have great pics of some russian stuff too, and the leopold (of course) Anzio Annie.

I''m glad you liked the pic, just so happens one of their panthers had that cast seam on it :)
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