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Tamiya Char B1 bis COMPLETED 03-04-07

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Friday, March 2, 2007 8:21 AM

Ron,

Can definitely see the progression of the visual technology if nothing else...the camo pattern is more distinct on it than I remember. Thanks for the visual flashback. Wink [;)]

Steve,

I had to chuckle at the comment about vocabulary buildling...it's one of the side effects of the hobby, we definitely have our own jargon for things due in no small part to the subject matter I'm sure...although there are still many times where I'll call something a "thingy" just because I've no idea what it really is but have to call it out somehow. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by treadwell on Saturday, March 3, 2007 4:42 PM
heya billBig Smile [:D]-- the char sure turned out to be a beauty, man!!! --tre' bien!-- magnifique!-nice tutorial on the tracks which also came out great!---treadCool [8D]

   

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, March 3, 2007 11:14 PM

Thanks tread, made more progress today. Wink [;)]

I started in with the weathering process today and what I thought would be a couple of hours turned into an entire day-long affair. There's a lot of surface area with the Char and it looks deceptively small but once I got started, I realized that the best way to approach it was in sections. I started with the hull sides first, then did the front half of the hull, followed by the turret, then the back half. Doing it this way kept me from feeling rushed and allowed each section to be done at its own pace. I'll use the right hull side to demonstrate the steps since they were followed in the same pattern for the whole vehicle.

The first step was to apply dots of Raw Sienna enamel across the entire camo scheme with a spotter brush. Once this had touch dried, I followed along with a 0 round brush and clean thinner and converted the dots into a filter coat over both camo colors. The Raw Sienna creates a nice earth tone tint as a filter and serves as the foundation for the rest of the weathering.

Once that had dried, I applied a similar spot pattern of Medium Green to the green sections only to allow for some variation in the green and to mix with the Raw Sienna applied earlier to the same end. These spots were blended in the same way, but needed a little bit more care to make sure they didn't spill over into the dark yellow areas. One of the advantages of applying this over a coat of Future is that it's very easy to clean up any mistakes with a Q-tip dampened with thinner or a brush for the harder to reach areas.

Next up was a pin wash applied with a 20/0 brush of 90/10 thinner/paint Burnt Umber enamel wash. Burnt Umber is a dark color that provides some good depth/shadow but I didn't want it to be too heavy and in some places it was necessary to come back after the thinner had dried and fine-tune it a bit to get the look I wanted. I also introduced some slight streaking in various places which will be combined with the Mig pigment treatment later on.

This same treatment was then applied to the rest of the vehicle.

As a final capstone to the day's activities, I went ahead and mounted the tow chains on the rear hull after it had been weathered. The kit instructions provide a step-by-step guide on how to drape the chains to get the desired look but only demonstrate one side...and of course, once one side is mounted, it's the second side that is more challenging to get right,  but I managed after some fiddling back and forth. I'd painted the chain non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal at the same time as I painted the track runs and they were given a Rust wash followed with Burnt Umber drybrushing and finally a Burnt Umber wash once mounted on the vehicle.

Not a whole lot remains to be done, essentially just applying a Dullcoat over the current setup and then giving it a Mig pigment treatment and mounting the tracks. Heading down the homestretch on this one.

 

 

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Posted by beav on Saturday, March 3, 2007 11:26 PM
I hope you're proud of this build, any modeler would love to have her gracing his shelf.

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by Gun Tech on Sunday, March 4, 2007 9:53 AM

Getting there Bill, she's a beauty! Approve [^]

Thanks for showing the step by step part of the filter, now I finally get it Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, March 4, 2007 10:48 AM

Thanks beav for the comments.

GT, Glad it helps, sometimes it's easy to overlook that the terminology doesn't always mean the same thing to everyone. This is what I mean when I say I apply a filter although others may have a different interpretation. Wink [;)] It's not a straight overall wash because the random paint placement with the dots gives more control over how much or how little actually gets left behind on the finish, that and the fact that it doesn't start as a thinned down paint arrangement even though it ends up that way. Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, March 4, 2007 12:40 PM
Your work is amazing to me bill, I only hope that one day my armor building skills will be just a fraction as good as yours are! Very nice Char!

Eric

 

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Sunday, March 4, 2007 3:51 PM
great build you did an incredible job
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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, March 4, 2007 7:44 PM

Thanks Jester and kenny, much appreciated!

Started off the final round this morning by giving the entire model a coat of Model Master Lusterless dullcoat in the rattlecan. I allowed this to sit for a couple of hours and cure up before beginning with the Mig powders.

I gave some thought to which combination of powders I would use for this one and finally settled on a two-tone approach using Dark Mud and Europe Dust. My reasoning was straightforward, France in late spring 1940 would likely have had both muddy and dusty conditions and the reference photos of different Chars seems to bear this out. I started out by applying the Dark Mud wet by brush all over the areas between the fenders and the sponsons, around the drive sprocket and mud scraper areas, and around the idler. Once this had air dried, I came back over the same areas with a smaller brush and spot applied the Dust over it so it would have a two tone-appearance vs. mixing them together and applying as one application.

Once all that was dried, I took a round stiff bristled brush and worked the two colors together while removing excess pigment at the same time.

As a last step, I took a q-tip and mositened one end and alternated with the dry end, blended and worked the effect more around the bolt heads and to create some streaks/runs from where mud/dust would have been scraped off and run down the sides. A side effect of using the q-tip is that it also buffs/fixes the pigments into the finish, a combination I think of the fine pigment powder and the "tooth" of the dullcoat finish, but the end result is it can be handled, with care, without any additinal fixative needed.

This process was repeated on the other side and the hull front and rear. I wasn't too sure how best to go about handling the hull top and turret, it kept bothering me especially in contrast to the weathered hull sides. The green in particular seemed too clean vs. the rest of the vehicle, so I opted to apply a thinned down water-based wash of the Europe Dust and let it air dry to create a thin film of dust. Once dried, it was also adjusted with the stiff bristled brushes and q-tip where needed.

In the course of all this, I'd also applied a wet coat of Europe Dust to both tracks and allowed them to airdry so it was now time to install them. This was a bit of a puzzle at first, since both the vehicle and the tracks were weathered, I wasn't quite sure how best to handle them for installation. After a couple of unsuccessful attempts with tweezers, I opted to remove the sprockets and use the old "rubberband" track method. The tracks were connected at the ends and looped over the idler, adjusted into place over the top skids and the roadwheels, then the sprocket set in the end of the tracks and carefully maneuvered back onto its mount post. The tracks runs are a tight fit, but the Tamiya grommet design for the sprockets made this the best option for installation. I also installed the clear lens for the auxiliary headlamp that was converted from a Pzkpw I-B leftover set in the spares bin.

One final adjustment was made in the form of some light drybrushing of Steel to the track faces and work was done.

Then it was off to the photo booth for the finished shots.

 

 

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Posted by biffa on Sunday, March 4, 2007 7:52 PM
top notch Bill, i think this is probably my favourite of yours to date also i think its probably one of your dirtiest which i like especially on this tank perfect finish on a great build, thanks for the ride. 
Ron g.
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Posted by Gun Tech on Sunday, March 4, 2007 10:26 PM

This is a top notch job Bill!    Man she is pretty Wink [;)]  

Once again, thanks for sharing your WIP with us! Lots of good stuff to learn.

I got to get me one and do a german conversion with it Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, March 4, 2007 11:52 PM
I agree with Ron, this is probably your finest to date. Great tutorial and excellent build. Can't wait for the next one.  Tongue [:P]

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 5, 2007 8:23 AM

 biffa wrote:
top notch Bill, i think this is probably my favourite of yours to date also i think its probably one of your dirtiest which i like especially on this tank perfect finish on a great build, thanks for the ride. 

Thanks Ron, I appreciate the comments! I'll admit that I kept hanging back on the weathering trying not to go too overboard with it...you know the old saying about when you think you need to do just one thing more, you've probably done too much already? Laugh [(-D] All that rivet detail and location relative to the tracks just begged for a little heavier approach though, so I'm glad you like it.

 Gun Tech wrote:

This is a top notch job Bill!    Man she is pretty Wink [;)]  

Once again, thanks for sharing your WIP with us! Lots of good stuff to learn.

I got to get me one and do a german conversion with it Wink [;)]

If you do the German conversion, you might think about doing the Flammpanzer variation....talk about new meaning to the designation Char! Tongue [:P] Echelon has an alternate set of markings as well for the German variants as Beutepanzers too if you go that route.

 tigerman wrote:
I agree with Ron, this is probably your finest to date. Great tutorial and excellent build. Can't wait for the next one.  Tongue [:P]

I always try to make the next build better than the last and try out new things when the situation presents itself, so am glad to hear it pays off in the finished results. Now I just have to think of how I'm going to tackle the weathering on the T-28 when that time comes since it presents some of the same opportunities/challenges. Wink [;)]

 

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Posted by zokissima on Monday, March 5, 2007 2:41 PM
This beauty came together really well. It was a pleasure to watch.
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 5, 2007 3:17 PM
Thanks zoran, glad you liked it.
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Posted by treadwell on Monday, March 5, 2007 9:33 PM
great, great build my friend--- so of course I had to 'google' the name 'Marne" and get an awsome history lesson-- great build,super tutorial and I am smarter for it-- thanks man!!!--- treadCool [8D]

   

 

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Monday, March 5, 2007 9:44 PM
we should have a B1 GB, I've also been planning to build a German Flammpanzer B1 for a while.Smile [:)]

Jonathan

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 5, 2007 10:12 PM

 treadwell wrote:
great, great build my friend--- so of course I had to 'google' the name 'Marne" and get an awsome history lesson-- great build,super tutorial and I am smarter for it-- thanks man!!!--- treadCool [8D]

The naming conventions for the Chars is interesting all by itself, each one was "christened" with a unique name and in a few cases, renamed, and that name linked to their vehicle number. New meaning to the term "land ship" I guess. Laugh [(-D] Glad you enjoyed the ride!

Hermes,

It would seem there are quite a few of these out there in people's stashes just waiting to get built, probably wouldn't be too hard to get a GB put together. Wink [;)]

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Posted by CDNTanker25 on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:06 PM
Wow Bill, don't know how this skipped past my eyes!  I will have to agree with everyone, definately your best to date man!  I love it!!!!!  Ever think about submitting this to the mag as an article?
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:07 PM

 CDNTanker25 wrote:
Wow Bill, don't know how this skipped past my eyes!  I will have to agree with everyone, definately your best to date man!  I love it!!!!!  Ever think about submitting this to the mag as an article?

Thanks james! Tell you the truth, no, although it did get published on Armorama as a Feature. Wink [;)]

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:40 PM
 wbill76 wrote:

 CDNTanker25 wrote:
Wow Bill, don't know how this skipped past my eyes!  I will have to agree with everyone, definately your best to date man!  I love it!!!!!  Ever think about submitting this to the mag as an article?

Thanks james! Tell you the truth, no, although it did get published on Armorama as a Feature. Wink [;)]

Yeah I saw that along with your sIG-33. Very nice.

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 Eric 

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:15 AM
Wow, great job on your Char B1 bis, looks fantastic!  I've really enjoyed following your build.  Cool [8D]

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Posted by FingersEddie on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:40 PM

Superb work, Bill. I agree with Ron, that this has to be one of your dirtiest builds to date! I like the tracks and the surroundin' areas.

One thing i've noticed is that the exhaust unit is not rusted or weathered in any way, was that your intention, or due to any references?! Great work, nonetheless. 

"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country is doin' to you!" "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." "Say 'NO' to censorship, it leads to a dictatorship!" http://public.fotki.com/paulyrichard/
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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:10 PM

Thanks everyone for the comments.

Fingers,

It's hard to say for sure, but as near as I can tell the exhaust pipes that exit the engine deck aren't bare/exposed pipes but rather inside an armored housing and it's only the end exhausts that are exposed and would be unpainted/rusty. It's hard to get a good shot of the exhausts, but this pic below shows what I mean. The coverings all match the hull pattern in terms of paint/color, so this influenced my decision.

This is of a regular Char...

and one of a B1 bis...

I'm not an expert on French armor by any stretch, so it's possible that they could be bare metal but I find that unlikely given their placement/exposure.  

 

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Posted by FingersEddie on Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:53 AM
Right on Bill, i'm with ya' on that then! I thought you'd have some references somewhere. Wink [;)]
"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country is doin' to you!" "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." "Say 'NO' to censorship, it leads to a dictatorship!" http://public.fotki.com/paulyrichard/
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