Jumbo Sherman finnished

Wow Bodge!Those are some nice Shermans. I'm working on the M7 now and I know that my level is way below what you did here; but, it gives me something to work towards.

-Stephen

Cheers everyone who,s looked in on this one and posted, still a long way to go though. Hopefully i can pull it of ok? I like shermans   especially Tamiya ones as they are easy to build, fairly acurate and once painted turn in to quite a respectable model. Not forgetting the price of these too  cheap as chips.

 The blackened effect was done with watered down dark grey acrylicks , several coats.

WOW!  DAMN!  So beautiful... thanks for uploading many pictures as it is definitely going to help me when I build one someday. 

Hi Andy :)

I have been following this, and in the beginning, I wasn't sure where it was going.

You must be a man with keen visonary sense. Your execution to the follow through are tremendious.  I am glad I had the sense to keep checking back.

I love the fact that it is as you said 'hand painted' --i.e. no special new technique, (not to knock special techniques, I use what ever it takes-lol) just nice to  know beautiful things can happen with an airbrush and talented hand!

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Very nice effect Andy, I'd say you'd nailed exactly what you were after.

Simply beautiful! Love hat worn out finish.

Bodge, that is AWESOME!! that is maybe the best white wash I have ever seen, but one question, how did you do the black stain at the end of the main gun in the last photo??


Thanks, Jim

Cheers Bill, here,s some more. Ive added tonal variations to the paint and weathered it  but as this is a late war vehicle i have not added any rust just made it a very weathered whitewash thats very dirty aswell. Still need to finnish the tools and guns along with the whole of the lower hull ,wheels and tracks. Then i might think of the stowage. None of this is the hairspray or salt method and its all hand painted effects as i wanted a very worn whitewash and not a heavilly chipped one.

Looks really good, Bodge. The whitewash looks especially well done. And not to worry about the funny paint colors, I use Tamiya airplane paint a lot......

Making good progress Andy, the progression in the pics is neat...almost like stop-motion animation!

Update on this one so far is i applied the decals  then cloud sprayed the whitewash then as you can see in the progresive shots i have gradually deteriorated the whitewash coat to reprecent the fading of this water based coat of paint due to wear and tear and deterioration due to weather as well. Still a long way to go on this one . Method so far is mapping and chipping with a brush. Loads more to come.

 

I would doubt that esspecially when it comes to allied armour as all i know is what shape they are

Bodge wrote:

Wow what a f*** up on description sorry i meant olive drab. i must be a Germaholick then . Crazy man crazy.

Gee, I just thought you knew something I didn't know.

Wow what a f*** up on description sorry i meant olive drab. i must be a Germaholick then . Crazy man crazy.

Bodge wrote:

Put on some colour tonight starting with a coat of dungal gelb then put on dark shadow lines  followed by a overal coat of dungel gelb then i sprayed on highlights and water marks down the sides.

I had to read through this twice just to be sure I wasn't seeing things! Better lock your doors at night Andy, the Shermanaholics will be there with pitchforks and torches before you know it to avenge their olive drab honor!  Definitely a sign that you're firmly in the German armor camp, old habits die hard when referring to basecoat colors. Love what you've done with it so far, keep the updates coming!

Put on some colour tonight starting with a coat of dungal gelb then put on dark shadow lines  followed by a overal coat of dungel gelb then i sprayed on highlights and water marks down the sides.

Looking good Andy! Can't wait to see what you do with it in the paint/finish department.

Coming along very nicely there sir!

Think i have finnished Sherman in the construction Phase,I have done cast texture on turret ,uparmoured the trans cover ,redone weld beads on turret, hull and mantlet. Added bolts around machine gun cover. Done rolled steel effect on added armour on the side and front of hull. Added bolt hanging bar for side skirts and tie down strap for spare track on rear aswell as arial and cast numbers on the turret.

 

Good to see someone doing this without spending $ on resin, but....
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Tank workshop & Blast models of France have conversions, have a look at the reviews, pics, etc, my TWS set shows the noticable difference in the tranny cover.
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http://www.tankworkshop.com/Shop/agora.cgi?cart_id=937.22702&p_id=TWS0025&xm=on
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http://www.tankworkshop.com/Shop/agora.cgi?cart_id=937.22702&p_id=TWS0069&xm=on
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Blast: Reference BL35017K ~ SHERMAN M4A3E2 JUMBO CONVERSION
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http://www.phpshopxml.com/blamod.shop/CID/8d87c14c149e7aeed31004aff562574f/function/itemPageDisplay/shopItemCode/BL35017K
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Reviews here: http://www.usarmymodels.com/MANUFACTURERS/Tamiya/tamiya35139.html
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http://www.missing-lynx.com/articles/usa/jbjumbo/jbjumbo.htm
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http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/blast/bl35017k.htm
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Thanks guys, i will take note and have a go.

The trans cover on the jumbo is actually 3 to 4 inches (can't remember exactly) thicker than the standard, late cast cover that Tamiya supplies in their kit. I'ts a visible difference, since the extra thickness is all on the outside of the cover. It's noticable in my previous post with the jumbo and M4A3/76 pics. It should be raltively easy to do with putty and/or plastic, and I may do so shortly, as I have another Tamiya jumbo in the stash to try on. The TWS part I used on the model in that same post was something I picked up at a show a while back, haven't seen one since.

What I did is just to approximate the thickness and shape based on the pictures (particularly the colored one) available. Probably not the best way to do it but in the end it was better than the original kit part.

Cheers for all the imformation on this one, How did you alter the transmision cover and to what degree?

newarmorman wrote:

Dwight, You are sharp man, I just pulled my Jumbo out of my shop and you are correct the weld lines actually intersect right at about where the hinges are on the commanders hatch and if you look at the actual Tamiya turret the weld line is a lot closer to the loaders hatch hinges than in your drawing. Actually the weld line comes a lot closer to the edge of just about every detail on the actual Tamiya turret than in the drawing. I also notice the angle of the turret right above the mantlet cover is steeper than on the drawing by maybe as much as 7-10 degrees. However as I hold the turret up to the drawing the front, side and rear view look good? A drawing with actual measurements would help, I am sure there is one out there somewhere! Maybe its me I am getting a little old and can't see very well anymore but what exactly is wrong with the transmission cover that needs changing, I saw one photo of a Jumbo like at a tank museum that looked like it had a large bar of steel maybe 8"x6" running across the top but otherwise? I guess I can't see it! Any advice would help as I am also starting this build. Newarmorman

I got this information previously from a member here and I am just passing it around. I am sorry that I don't have a bigger picture of the profile drawings. I know that I was able to get one previously from Shermanfreak (a sherman expert who used to be a member here) when I was building my model but I am not sure where it is.  

Dwight,

You are sharp man, I just pulled my Jumbo out of my shop and you are correct the weld lines actually intersect right at about where the hinges are on the commanders hatch and if you look at the actual Tamiya turret the weld line is a lot closer to the loaders hatch hinges than in your drawing. Actually the weld line comes a lot closer to the edge of just about every detail on the actual Tamiya turret than in the drawing. I also notice the angle of the turret right above the mantlet cover is steeper than on the drawing by maybe as much as 7-10 degrees. However as I hold the turret up to the drawing the front, side and rear view look good? A drawing with actual measurements would help, I am sure there is one out there somewhere!
Maybe its me I am getting a little old and can't see very well anymore but what exactly is wrong with the transmission cover that needs changing, I saw one photo of a Jumbo like at a tank museum that looked like it had a large bar of steel maybe 8"x6" running across the top but otherwise? I guess I can't see it!

Any advice would help as I am also starting this build.

Newarmorman

As for the turret shape you may refer to this drawing

If I remember it correctly, the weld lines on the top of the turret in the Tamiya kit ran through the commander's hatch as compared to the drawings where the weld lines just touch the edge of the hatch. This could be easily fixed by beefing up the sides of the turret and re-routing the weld lines.

Excellent! I'd never seen a pic of the steel chevron tracks on a jumbo! Now I feel better about this one, totally OOB:

Get moving, Bodge! 

Yes, the steel chevron tracks were also used on Jumbos. The rubber chevrons were just more commonly seen. In both cases the duckbills must be used. The biggest shortfall of the Tamiya kit is the transmission cover. After that, the rest of the fine tuning is up to you (adding bottoms of sponsons, raised weld beads, texturing, etc)

Bodge wrote:

If its ok to use the kits tracks i will carry on with it and just uparmour the transmision?

I don't see anything wrong with the tracks as it looks the same as in one of the pictures below.

I built the same kit a while back and I just modified the tranny cover. Actually the turret is also off in shape so some modifications are needed as well.