FINISHED PICS! -- Pg 6 DML ersatz M10 Panther OOB WIP

Holy Excrement Karl!!!!

I almost missed this one. The modulation and shading is fantastic. Looking real good. Underside yellow....hummmm.

Nice work on the damage to the fenders. By the way....Great to have you back building.....its quiet around here without you.....Bill gets stuck carrying the Germaholic WIP load (no offense to anyone else).

Well now I can sit here in my bunker as I have you marked as a target!!

PS as always...nice fingers!!

Rounds Complete!!

the doog wrote:

Thanks, bill and Bill! Bill, I have looked into templates, but to be honest, I think the quality of decals is so good in these kits nowadays that it's quicker to just slap 'em on. Templates can be troublesome over curves and details too sometimes, and if you get leakage around the edges then you're painting out the overspray. I admire the guys who can get good results with them, but I've never had much luck with them for some reason?

   Very nice Karl, if you were trying to achieve the look of an armored vehicle that's been sitting in a cold wet Belgium field you've done it and some 

Thanks, Mike, Manny, and Steve!

Mike, this "OD thang" might actually steer me to a (dare I say it?!) Sherman or other US tank! I'll have to se how hard the "pull" back to the Dunklegelb is after I"m done! lol!

Manny, you're right about those markings--I'm sure there actually WAS overspray on many of the real tanks.I just never got a good feel for the masks. Maybe someday..?

Thanks, Steve--I think I've still got a way to go yet. I'm putting thought into this one (around the other "secret" build). Weathering the OD is not as "automatic" as the DY panzers! I hope I don't disappoint!

the doog wrote:

I hope I don't disappoint!

  NEVER!

A well worn doppleganger, Karl!

Did that EVER get that weathered in servce? 'Spose they did being winter and all. Regardless, the paintwork is excellent.

Cheers

Mike

madmike wrote:

A well worn doppleganger, Karl! Did that EVER get that weathered in servce? 'Spose they did being winter and all. Regardless, the paintwork is excellent. Cheers Mike

Mike, yup--these got quite shabby-looking, as a matter of fact; see the photos on the previous page in response to Manny's question! They were pretty filthy by the time photos had been snapped, and that's how I'll model it, based upon what most people know of this vehicle.

Doog - bang up job so far. Your take on the modulation technique is very interesting.

From a historical standpoint, does anyone know how well this camoflage worked? Is there any record of what sort of deception and damage the Germans were able to do with this set up? It would seem to me that a Panther is a good bit larger than an M-10...but I suppose at night or in inclement weather (or combat) one wouldn't notice things like that too readily.

Well done Doog. That's some excellant painting and weathering my friend.

Rob

Thanks, Dupes and Rob!

Dupes, I wish I had some onfo for ya on that but I think that very little is reallly known about these tanks. It would have been great to hear from one of the veterans who knew something first hand about them, huh?

Doog,

I am grooving on what you've done with OD!   Thank you for the toot on how you accomplished it.  I will have to try that on one of the OD beasts in the stash

Cheers

Dave

I am sitting reserve up here in NY so I am away from my references, but I seem to remember that they were destroyed quite early in the campaign. 

If anyone lives in the Pheonix area, the BotB reunion is this weekend.  http://www.battleofthebulge.org/

Maybe someone could ask the question?

There are some good references about the vehicles and equipment used in OPERATION GREIF, Otto Skorzeny's special unit that was to use captured U.S. equipment and vehicles to wreak mayhem behind American lines and to eventually capture the bridges over the Muese.

A good place to start(I'm sure someone will contest this ) are OSPREY-ELITE SERIES #11 Ardennes 1944: Peiper and Skorzeny, author-Jean Paul Pallud. The other is BATTLE OF THE BULGE Then and Now by AFTER the BATTLE Pulications, author Jean Paul Pallud. You could also do online searches for info and photos.

In the above titles there are some good accounts as to the effectiness of this unit, how it was deployed and it's ultimate fate.

I hope this helps.

This may be my last post here since I no laonger have the time to keep up or the $$$ to participate in this hobby's new more expensive era. Also, I don't think that I have much to offer that anyone would be interested in. The hobby has zoomed past this 59 year old hump and in my old age, I'm finding more important things to be worried about than what color DUNKLE GELB really was.

So, carry on. Don't let the "experts" keep you from doing what you want or like. Just DO IT! Most importantly--HAVE FUN! After all, it's only a hobby.

I hope to keep building and I hope that I may have the time and energy to post some of my work in the future either here or some where.

So, hug your loved ones, take a deep breath, feel the sun on your face and be thankful that you can.

Al

spacepacker wrote:

WOW,,,WOW,,,WOW, I'm so gobsmacked I cant think of any thing else to say...Kenny

And thanks too, Satch and Dave! I appreciate your nice comments!

Al, sorry to see that times are demanding a hiatus for you. I hope that things come back around, and that you're back with us soon! 

I should have another update tomorrow, guys!

ogrejohn wrote:

Very nice work doog! Some of the photos show up more towards a green color other photos kinda show it as a more yellowish shade. What is it, some kind of color shifting paint like the car builders use? Then again it might just be my crappy monitor. In any case I think it looks great!

NO, that's just the lighting that I used to photograph it--sometimes I use the flash to show a little more of the grime, other times not. The "yellowy" ones are without flash. I'm going to do an update tomorrow, and I'll try to use natural light!

Here we go with another update--

First, I used some MIG 502 oils--mostly #125 "Light Mud" with a smidge of White and Wash Brown to streak and dirty up the hull. The spare tracks were also finsihed a little more with rust shades.

Then I painted up the tracks and washed them with some acrylic rust craft store paint.

Then, using a combination of 4 different MIG pigments and real dirt, I mixed up some dirt with some MIG acrylic resin, and slopped it on.

And then, when dry, I added some MIG Dry Mud pigment to the tops. You mght notice that the tracks are definitely of a more rusty color than I'm usually comfortable with; I wrestled with this decision a long time, but in the end I decided that, as I'm modeling this particular vehicle as an abandoned hulk, it would show fresh, bright rust and therefore, the color on the track teeth--which would have been polished bright steel, and therefore, would have rusted sooner.

The bottom of the tank was mucked up with various MIG 503 oil shades.

And then promptly slathered over with the MIG mixed mud--first the darker color, then the Dry Mud..I kinda regretted covering up all the nice shading...

And then the dry pigments were fixed in place with MIG Pigment Fixer. Just drop it on.

The wheels got the treatment too--oil washes and oil dabs, then drybrushed a bit with Polly S Midstone. The rims were painted Tamiya Metallic Grey, and then MIG Light Rust pigment was mixed with thinner, brushed on the rims and brushed off when dry. These rims are normally bright silver due to wear, but again, I figured that they would rust up quickly in the wet climate of the Bulge. Again, it looks a bit weird, but I'm standing by it! Oil leaks were added using MIG "Oil and Grease Stain Mixture" which dries a nice semi-gloss, like it's wet. The rubber parts are NOT painted yet here...

Detail...

A drybrushing of craft store tan, and some more refining of the streaks and filters and here's where I am. You know, the more I use this MIG stuff, the more I'm sold on it. You can lay down a filter, let it dry for two or three days, and then if you don't like it, come back, wet your brsuh with some MIG thiner, and manipulate it either subtley or completely--cool beans!

The turret shields are still loose, btw...

Next step--pin washes and subtle details. I think I'm pretty happy with the finish so far. A few more pigments and some picked-out details; get the rubber parts of the wheels painted and the tracks on and then some airbrush-generated splatter. I'm getting excited just thinking about it! lol!...

Whatcha think?

So far...fantastic.....looking to do the same with my M40 only not as...Dirty...but similar modulation...good to look at yours

Tracks are interesting as you "packed" them with mud and I have to "pack" mine with snow....coming sooooon

As always...nice work...and as always...nice fingers

Rounds Complete!!

Only 3 words for that.

WOW

WOW

and WOW

Very VERY nice moves, Karl.

FEELS like it's been sitting around through a winter and spring.

Looks amazing.

Bill 

I think I'm in love, WOW that weathering is tantastic. Karl, your the man. I think I'll  break down and buy me some of that weathering stuff. Top notch stuff my friend.

Rob

Thanks so much, Boba Fett, dupes, Mike, Marc, Rob, Bill, and David!

Thanks for your comments and for sticking with this WIP!

Rob, I think you'll really love the MIG stuff--it's definitely been a big boon to my finishing techniques! 

David--yup, I brap through the mud one day, and then plow through it in a panzer the next, lol. MUD IS GOOD!!!

Haha! Yeah! And with the two drivers shaking hands! Imagine that happening! Us armor modellers could've seen the difference instantly.

How about that Doog?

~The Doog ! ~ Pull'in off a top notch  SBS thread of such a top-flight build ! Rock on with this Bro. Beautiful results while raising eyebrows at the start with that uber-drastic contrast painting ~ but you have shown how it comes together-BIG TIME. I really liked the SBS at this point

What a difference that step made & perfectly illustrated. This may promt some members to step up thier game when it comes to posts. Really well-prepared posts like this are even better than a pro article, 'cause we get to chime in + watch it all go down.

~Indy