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Build Complete: #11 Tamiya Chevy 30 CWT LRDG Truck (Scorpion Conversion) WIP

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, January 3, 2010 12:04 PM

Good method on the goggle lenses Edmund, Future is great stuff for that sort of thing but you do have to slowly build it up. Your "Mr. Lee" figure is looking sharp...if you wanted to be really bold, you could give him a bit more of a grizzled look and introduce some black or brown streaking into his beard...that way he would look like a true veteran but not someone from the old folks home if you know what I mean. Stick out tongue Of course, that's easy for me to say...not sure how easy/hard it would be to pull that off! Propeller

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Sunday, January 3, 2010 3:04 PM

Those figs look great Indy!

-Will young modeler Test fit master
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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 3, 2010 3:18 PM

Bill:  Thanks Bill!  I did build up the Future with small pin drops of Future followed by ample use of my hair dryer on a low setting to ensure that i did not blow it out of the lense aperture.  All four of the figures have beards and I wanted to practice different techniques for each one.  I like the young and older contrast of the two front figures.  I attended a meeting this morning where some of my Vietnam friends have full beards and they let me touch them (their Beards)  and examine them closely i think I will add some nicotine stains to the mustache and around the mouth.  I wanted to portray a  grizzled veteran Sgt. from WW1 which goes with his WW1 leather vest

I am still learning how to approach this and I haven;t found much info out there on painting facial hair so I am figuring it out as I go.  I plan to have more of a salt and pepper look on the next figure.

Wayne:  Thanks as always for your support Wayne and I know you are very protective of my "feelings" which I really appreciate but I welcome honest and thoughtful comments.  Bill has really helped me become a better modeler over the last year by setting standards in accuracy and detail. He is the only one that pointed out I had a track on back wards this year and he was very cool and diplomatic about it.  He also saved the day when I was assembling intakes for my Stug III and even after he provided feedback I assembled it wrong Twice!   Stick out tongue

I really appreciate and look forward to reading positive comments on my work it drives me on but I also strive to earn the respect of honest critics.  I did this figure in a 12 hour marathon session so later today I will take some of this feedback and approach it with new eyes

I just got off the phone with Adam who also had some well intentioned constructive feedback which I admit sometimes isn't easy to hear but feelings are for girls this is about getting better!

Let's Do This!! 

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 3, 2010 3:21 PM

Who is the Indy you speak of young Padawan?

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Sunday, January 3, 2010 3:31 PM

Oh, haha sorry. I saw Indy's post of those last pics whoops... Looks great Edmund! Whistling

-Will young modeler Test fit master
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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, January 3, 2010 5:08 PM

Schnobs said :  "Feelings are for girls "      

Nice !      I try to save all my feelings for my girl  too  Stick out tongue

Hey Will, thanks for giving me credit for Ed's work--You can go back and EDIT posts ya know.

Hit {MORE} then {EDIT}  then go to work !  If you want--I like getting credit for Edmund's work too though  Geeked

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Posted by M1Carbine on Monday, January 4, 2010 1:01 AM

Ok Ed Im coming over to your place to get a figgy painting toot...................for some reason that doesnt sound right.................at all.

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, January 4, 2010 3:45 AM
Edmund, The figures are looking good. Playing with others beards. Does your wife know this? LOL. I did get a lot of work done on the figures today. Unfortunately, the program that I use to load from the camera to the computer stop working sometime between the day after Xmas and today. Well at least I can now post from the iPhone on my breaks at work. Woo hoo!

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With enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, January 4, 2010 7:38 PM

Dave:  I think the hands on experience with the beards payed off and of course Wbill's and Adam's thoughtful comments as well drove me on to take another run at the driver.  I have called New World Miniatures and "informed" them that I will be painting their box art from now on!  Wink

Bob & Adam:  Thanked again to both of you for your continued support!

Reworked Driver Figure:

I added more character to the face and beard as well as work to the hands and redid the shadowing and highlights to create a more dirty in place appearance.

 

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, January 4, 2010 7:58 PM
Edmund, Yes, indeed it did pay off. You have done a fantastic job with the driver and gunner. Cheers Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, January 4, 2010 8:02 PM

Definitely can see a difference in the "before" vs. "after" on the driver Edmund! He's definitely got more character now for lack of a better word. Sharp work! Yes

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, January 4, 2010 8:41 PM

Thanks Dave & Bill for your comments.  I am relieved to hear that because that is what I was trying to do add character to something the size of a pea! 

Now I am off to research the best method to shade and shadow white.  Lynn Kessler has some good information i one his books that I need to review.  Two guys left and then it's all details from there.

 

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, January 4, 2010 8:57 PM

~ED~  Yes, yes, yes, that is more like it !! I like that beard alot better. You know it's better. He has a more "chisled" kinda "wooden" look that I think fits the bill. Not the above Bill or our other Bro Bill, but "the ticket.'...Ya know. As for the box-art...I'm likeing your painting better!

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 I'm not sure the guy really understood what garmets the sculpter was portraying,,    HE IS however no slouch of a modeler! I searched his name and found this....YIKES~!

Found at http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=2152  more pix if you like it

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 12:09 PM

I must be getting senile or sometime.  i don't remember a good portion of the builds here lately.  Like this one.  But it looks terrific

Marc  

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 6:50 PM

Wingnut I agree,     Stick out tongue

Guys for painting black or white uniforms.....take a look at this, on Google Books

LINK         <-------                       Helped me out on my first black uniform. It's a tightrope walk, but it was fun & I learned alot. Came out fairly well

 

 

sorry, got no example of a white uniform to show yet..................Cool

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 9:39 PM

Ok call me craz but in doing research they said to add some blue to the white to tone it down....................and no I wasnt on meds at the time...........................I think.

 

Bob

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Posted by Schnobs on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:01 PM

Thanks Adam, Wayne, Marc, and Bob for your comments and suggestions:

According to Lynn Kessler's book on How to Build Armor Dioramas he indicates a need for a color shift which all you guys suggested and describes a cold white and a warm white.  Cold whites are for winter uniforms and should be a bit bluish or grayish in the  shadow areas and Warm whites are for warm weather white uniforms and are a bit yellowish brown in the shadow areas.  Wayne and Bob hit on these points as well.

Here is where I am at the moment at I like where its going.

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 4:57 AM

I should of known I couldn't walk away!

Here is the third guy almost completed I still l have some more final detailing on him tomorrow when I can approach it with fresh ideals.  I went way off the map with this one because the SAS guys often went native in their attire so I let my imagination go.  I did include a real world ref picture I was trying to capture for this guy!

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 8:33 AM

Very, very nice job Ed~ Yes  Big Smile he's coming along nicely indeedy.

So much for "get some rest" (3:00AM post) ~LOL~

"I will rest when I am dead ! "       (Bruce Lee)

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Posted by I make stuff on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 11:41 AM

"i'll sleep whn I'm dead"--Warren Zevon.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 1:08 PM

Another productive late night session in the books Edmund, figures are looking good. The concept of "warm" vs. "cold" white is an interesting one and makes sense when you think about it.

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 9:10 PM

Adam:  Thanks man I tired really hard to capture the same look and colors of the SAS Jeep driver in the foreground.  Rest is for the weak!! 

Bill:  Nice Quote!

WBill: I have read quite a lot of articles about highlighting and shadowing white and black and of all colors Panzergrau.  The school of thoughts that blue adds coldness to the Grey and red adds warmth.  My reading leads me to believe that a lot of it is based on current trends and practices.  Scale color is also an interesting subject which I totally agree with as well.  I think your models tread that fine line very well.Bill.  Kudos to you!

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 9:59 PM

Why thank you kind sir! Wink I'm just a head-scratching student like yourself in this regard though, having picked up what I know from reading about it being done or experimented on by others. Big Smile

Color theory and how they interact visually is always fascinating IMHO. It's amazing what certain color combinations, when properly balanced, can produce. Some of theme are counter-intuitive on the surface but the results don't lie. Wink

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Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, January 7, 2010 3:57 PM

"Ahhh....sleep, those little slices of death."

Jules Verne (I believe)

 

Bob

 

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, January 7, 2010 5:31 PM

Bob you are a barbarian that reads the classics!  I always thought Edger Allan Poe was the author of that quote but I beleive you are correct based on the following data!

Edgar Allan Poe is one of my favorite writers and I have pondered weak and weary over the origins of a quote that has puzzled me for some time. Could someone please help me solve this mystery?

This is the qoute:
"Sleep... Oh! how I loathe those little slices of death.... "
(some variations with "Dreams, How I loathe..." and such may occur)

It seems to be a widely spread opinion that this quote is from Poes work. Sometimes Henry Wadsworth Longfellow is credited, but as far as I know it is commonly believed to originate from Edgar Allan Poe.

I have been searching through Poes complete works (all his poems, novels, short stories, long stories, some material that seemed to be scripts for different plays, some letters and articles) and I can't seem to find this sentence or anything remotely like it anywhere in his work. It could be something he actually said or something he wrote in a letter or article that I don't know of. Possible, yet not very likely. A quote as famous and well spread as this one would probably be easy to pinpoint if it really came from Poe.

I haven't found anything that resembles this quote in Longfellows complete poems either, but I haven't been as thorough in my research as in the case of Mr Poe.

What I did find was "The Columbia World of Quotations 1996" and a sequence from the 1959 film "Journey to the Center of the Earth. It goes like this:

"I don’t sleep. I hate those little slices of death."
ATTRIBUTION:
Journey to the Center of the Earth 1959 (based on the novel by Jules Verne)
Walter Reisch (1903–1963), Austrian screenwriter, Charles Brackett (1892–1969), U.S. and Henry Levin.
The character Count Saknussemm (Thayer David) at the edge of the sea, explaining to Lindenbrook why he isn’t resting.

Not exactly the same quote, but very close indeed. The scriptwriters are credited for the quote with no reference to Poe or Longfellow or anyone else. It is not to be found in the english translation of the original novel by Jules Verne either.

Any suggestion or information on the origins of this qoute? Does it come from Poe? If it does, where can I find it? If it doesn't, who said/wrote it and how did Poe end up with the credit (Nightmare on Elm Street III might be a good guess)?

It is a long "question" but I thought I might provide you with all the information I have gathered so far to make things easier for you. I have tried almost everything else (including unanswered e-mail to e-note and other sites), and this might be my last chance.

Please help my poor soul...
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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, January 7, 2010 6:15 PM

Zip it!~Ed, I don't know.  I hope some one gives you a definitive answer after you prostitute your thread like that.        Jeepers Off Topic how's the figure painting going ?   HmmStick out tongueBig SmileHuh?

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, January 7, 2010 6:37 PM

LOL!  I collect quotes like baseball cards Adam!  I love literature and history!

I am in the middle of my SBS on the Fourth figure and I choose an Auburn beard for this Laddie!

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, January 7, 2010 7:09 PM

oooooohhh Very NICE!

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BTW ~ your quote.... I think it's  Shakespeare  Wilted Flower

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Posted by M1Carbine on Friday, January 8, 2010 12:32 AM

Ed ou are absolutly 100% correct Count Saknussemm, I could not for the life of me think of the name of that character from the film.  Alass my friend, I can now sleep.  And I leave you all with this

 

"A dying man needs to die, as a sleepy man needs to sleep, and there comes a time when it is wrong, as well as useless, to resist."

Stewart Alsop

 

 

Bob

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Posted by Schnobs on Friday, January 8, 2010 12:41 AM

LOL!  I will leave you with this!

And This!

Confucious states that man who stands on toilet gets high on pot!

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