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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:38 AM

Hans von Hammer

One thing.. Lose the boombox.. They didn't appear until the mid 70's.. Jugheads and Doggies had only the small, portable cassette player-recorders

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/th_cassette.jpg?t=1288068451 

or the big reel-to-reel players to blast some Jimi Hendrix Canned Heat  into Victor Charles' AO...  

The reel-to-reels needed external speakers as well, and didn't run on batteries, only 110 VAC

 

Actually the reel to reels were spliced directly into the tanks wiring. Since when do tanks come with electrical outlets.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:46 AM

Actually the reel to reels were spliced directly into the tanks wiring. Since when do tanks come with electrical outlets.

That won't work either.  Tanks are on a 24 volt system, the reel to reel won't work off that.  The reel to reels were mainly found in fixed positions that had 110 volt power available. 

What you may be thinking of is connecting the output from the tape player into the tank's intercom system so you could hear it through the headsets.  They still had to have batteries for the tape player though.

A couple of the Tamiya and Academy accessory sets have a Vietnam-era tape player in them.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:54 AM

Yeah, I was talkiing about the big "home stereo" R2Rs.. Forgot about the small portable R2Rs, but they only ran 6 volts DC or 110 VAC... Even running one  directly offa one battery, you'd still be pushing 12 volts into one and that won't work.. Still need "D" or "C" cell batteries to run 'em...

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:11 AM

HeavyArty

Actually the reel to reels were spliced directly into the tanks wiring. Since when do tanks come with electrical outlets.

 

That won't work either.  Tanks are on a 24 volt system, the reel to reel won't work off that.  The reel to reels were mainly found in fixed positions that had 110 volt power available. 

What you may be thinking of is connecting the output from the tape player into the tank's intercom system so you could hear it through the headsets.  They still had to have batteries for the tape player though.

A couple of the Tamiya and Academy accessory sets have a Vietnam-era tape player in them.

The Tamiya PBR actually does have a vietnam era tape deck in it.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:12 PM

Mikeym_us
The Tamiya PBR actually does have a vietnam era tape deck in it.

Yup, so does the below Academy set.  It looks like an exact copy of the Tamiya one too.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:55 PM

OMFG this is killing me!

I don't like to wait.

It's lookin' awesome so far doog.

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:27 PM

Thanks alot guys!

Jon--your comments on my weathering style made me pause and reflect. Yes, I think that the "old school" of a an overall wash followed by the standard drybrushing is something that I'm moving away from. This produces a nice model, no doubt, but I think what I'm looking for in my models is something on the "next level". I want to show a model that "looks like War feels"--if that makes any sense? Dirty, random, unpredictable rough and mean. That's what I usually have in the back of my mind., I think too, that you have to be a bit fearless in your approach. Some modelers seem to settle into a comfort zone of what their abilities are, but I think that you have to be brave (or crazy?!) to really advance under fire! Thanks for prodding my brain!

Narayan, thanks for the idea about decal printing--I'm going to hit you up for hints about how exactly to do that. I need to print some custom decals for some cars I will be working on. Thanks for stopping by, and I"ll be PM'ing you in a while. By the way, I've still got those manuals--sorry, I've been tardy getting them back to you.!

Thanks too, RBaer, and panserguy! Happy to keep you entertained! Propeller

Mike-that's cool that this will be available in 1/72! And with the same markings too? Wow, I may have to pick one of them up!

Hans, Gino--an interesting sidebar discussion on the tape player! Thanks for pointing that out Hans--wow,, sharp eyes! And Gino, thanks for posting that photo of the accessory set! I just ordered one from eBay for under $10, free shipping!

TD--remember, patience is a virtue! lol! Thanks for your enthusiasm! I'm working away as we speak.

One thing I found out--Mike (Redleg) wasn't kidding about the fragility of the tracks--they were fine to handle unpainted, but after a painting and a few washes, those track pins became really brittle and couldn't handle the rough handling that I needed to put the track on---I snapped at least a dozen joints on one side! Side 2 went much better after I learned form the experience, but right now the model is "in the motor pool" getting some track repair....

More pics later tonight, guys--stay tuned! Big Smile

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:57 PM

Center pin styrene indy tracks

mad-man-pulling-hair-out

Hang in the Karl

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:53 PM

redleg12

Center pin styrene indy tracks

http://blogs.bgsu.edu/estevegsw/files/2010/02/mad-man-pulling-hair-out.jpg

Hang in the Karl

Rounds Complete!!

LOL! That was me about an hour ago!

OK, so I have FINALLY got the tracks repaired and on. I still have to clean them up--hide the glue stuff and re-paint the fresh end connectors, so you might see some unpainted black ones in there....

Here's the tracks before they went all to hell...I painted the base coat with Tamya Flat Brown+Black; then a wash of Rust Brown, and a drybrushing of Gunmetal. Then I painted the rubber parts in Folk Art Dark Grey+Black. The guide horns were picked out in Testor's enamel Silver. Then a final drybrush of Folk Art tan.

I've added a second and third application of weathering oils here and there, then added the spare tracks finished the same way as the tracks. Still have to paint details, and add pigments and stowage. The crew is also going to be in the hatches when done, I wrapped the light in silly putty and sprayed white on the cover in preparation for painting that marking n it. Boy, the light really catches it in the photos, huh?

Here's where I am this evening...

Next up---pigments and stowage..and crew, of course.

Thanks to all who are following along and throwing in their comments! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:08 PM

The Beauty is in the detailsHeart

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:06 PM

HeavyArty

 Mikeym_us:
The Tamiya PBR actually does have a vietnam era tape deck in it.

Yup, so does the below Academy set.  It looks like an exact copy of the Tamiya one too.

http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/100_4101.jpg

Yep.....used a lot of BA-30s, D cell batteries for non-military Surprise....Eveready in OD green!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:11 PM

Considering what you went through...great save ! I know it must be the photo angle but in the last photo the track on the left looks a little caddy wampus Surprise....

I am sure after clean up (a couple of glue spluges) and a few more prayers they will look perfect! Great work!!

Well let me change the 8 track.....time to put on the Stones!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:12 PM

The tracks look pretty good.  I would remove a link or two from each side though.  They should be pretty tight, like this:

Sorry you had an issue with them.  I have had no issues w/the M48 tracks.  Lets not talk about the T80 tracks for the M40 though, aaahhh!!! That brings back bad memories.  I ended up trashing them and getting a set of Dragon indi-link tracks that were one-piece each, as opposed to the 5 per for the T80s.

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:30 PM

HeavyArty

The tracks look pretty good.  I would remove a link or two from each side though.  They should be pretty tight, like this:

Aye, Gino and Mike;

Unfortunately, with reducing the suspension, it left me right between one track too long and one too short. I couldn't take one more out--I would never have got them connected. Believe it or not, though I didn't show it in photos, I actually sawed the rear sprocket mount clean off and moved it back a few mm's, with the track on just to get what I have here. When I reattached it and glued it up tight, this is what I got.  I really can't see how or where I can take up the slack without cutting off the front idlers now and moving them forward, but even that's not much of an option because it would give me at most a millimeter, if that.

EDIT!!! Actually, I CAN take a link out of the one side! The one that looked "caddy wampus"--I'll be honest with you Mike; no one ever used that term to describe any aspect of any model I was working on, and it disturbed me so much that I "went the extra mile". I'm cleaning up the track right now. Pics before I go to bed!

Thanks for the extra push, guys!!!!

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:46 PM

Karl, it look fine....pictures can be deciving.....ask Gino, he will tell you I am not half as ugly as my pictures Surprise

Soon you will be like Manny's sensitive man!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:27 PM

Just because they were brought up, Here it is: Battery, Dry, Non-Rechargable, 1.5 Volt BA-30..

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:37 PM

She's looking nice and dirty sir!  Keep up the good work.

Kevin

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Posted by minimortar on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:54 PM

Looks great Karl!! I too noticed the slack-track but even so, this is far better than I could ever do! WOW!

Hans von Hammer

Just because they were brought up, Here it is: Battery, Dry, Non-Rechargable, 1.5 Volt BA-30..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Army%20Pics/ba-30_battery_100.jpg?t=1288146275

Man... BA-30... now there's a term I haven't head in what... 19 years... Holy Censored !

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

Mortars in Miniature
A Scale Model (Plus!) Collection of the Infantryman's Artillery

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:14 PM

OK, well, here's the fixed track! It was a tight pull, but I managed to get it there!

The other side (the left side if you're in the tank) looks pretty ok--a slight slack in the rear, but that can't be fixed as that's all superglued together now Whistling  but the front angle doesn't bother me.

Here's a look at 'er...

Thanks again for your honest critique, guys--Gino and Mike, I appreciate being pushed to get the look right. Kinda a heartbreaker about the little slack there in the rear, but I'll have to live with that. Hope it doesn't ruin the look too much. Sad

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:23 PM

Perfect......looks great......considering what you have gone through with these....don't touch, don't breath.....looks great. It was worth going back!!

Hummm Kevin 19 years.......I bet it's not more than16 Big Smile Dammm....I guess we are part of the Flowmax/Viagra generation Wink.....sorry Karl

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:32 PM

HeavyArty

The tracks look pretty good.  I would remove a link or two from each side though.  They should be pretty tight, like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/HeavyArty/M48A3%20sans%20Engine/IMG_0672.jpg

Sorry you had an issue with them.  I have had no issues w/the M48 tracks.  Lets not talk about the T80 tracks for the M40 though, aaahhh!!! That brings back bad memories.  I ended up trashing them and getting a set of Dragon indi-link tracks that were one-piece each, as opposed to the 5 per for the T80s.

I've got a question cocerning the real McCoy. When replacing tracks; how is the track made tight again? Is it like tightening a serpentine belt on an engine? That is, it's loose until you pull it tight by adjusting an idler wheel out? I probably just answered my own question.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:34 PM

redleg12

Perfect......looks great......considering what you have gone through with these....don't touch, don't breath.....looks great. It was worth going back!!

Hummm Kevin 19 years.......I bet it's not more than16 Big Smile Dammm....I guess we are part of the Flowmax/Viagra generation Wink.....sorry Karl

Rounds Complete!!

Thanks, Mike! Yeah--I don't want to touch it now--I don't want it to go "BOING!" and come apart, lol

I've got some cleaning up and repainting to do, and of course, the pigments will blend it all in eventually..Smile

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:08 AM

I probably just answered my own question.

Yup, you did... Ya pump grease into the idler arm..

Hell, Doog... Chalk up another keeper..

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:01 AM

The track fix looks much better.  Good job.

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:19 AM

Thanks Hans and Gino!!!

Well, guys--I'll be leaving tonight for Pennsylvania to stay at my parents for the night, and then on to North Carolina to stay with Jenn for a week--WAHOOOOO!! So I'll be away until November 7th.

I'm looking forward to finishing up this beast! I'll be looking in on the work going on here while Jenn is in class, but no new updates until I get home. Stay tuned! Smile

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Posted by oddmanrush on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:36 AM

Looks to me like you got that well used and combat abused appearance you were after! Its amazing how you can make plastic look like metal. Great job Karl! The tracks look good to me. I recently completed a 1/72 M60 that had link and length tracks. The instructions for them were slightly backwards and I wound up with track that was too long on the bottom and too short on top. Unfortunately I didn't really discover this until I had glued them down. Had to pry them off and reapply. Any how, I digress, good work, hope to see it complete soon!

Jon

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:34 AM

Definitely like where this one is going Karl, glad you were able to overcome the tracks problem and get that resolved. Looking good! Beer

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:08 PM

Thanks, Jon and Bill! I appreciate the support! That track thing left me a bit shaken, lol!

Jon, that's a familiar story if you're used to working with indy-link tracks. I think everyone has a horror story in their past! Surprise

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Posted by iraqiwildman on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:02 PM

You made the newsletter, yeah.

Tim Wilding

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Vietnam M-48A3
Posted by H23Tanker on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM

Doog,

I rode an M-48A3 for 15 months in Vietnam with the 11th Atmored Cavalry Regiment. I look at modeling as representation, not duplicatioin-miniature. The M-48 you're building looks A-OK to me. For all you armor fans, visit www.11thcavnam.com for many pictures. Also, click on 'Troop Home Pages' and view pictures taken by other 11th Cav troopers. Pictures I took are located at H Co., Photo Album3.

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