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Italeri Tiger 1 1:35 scale. A first kitbashing adventure

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:51 AM

A question...

Working on the rear mudguards, a multi piece PE replacement of the kit part, there is two things that are frustrating me at the moment...

How do you guys manage to glue PE at it's edge? Even with CA this takes a couple of tries to sort of work and the end result is never very very sturdy...

And if you would take a look at the next picture:

How do you guys fold a "lip" as delicate as this one next to the arrow?? Mind you, the huge white giant thing in the picture is a standard q-tip. Up until this point in the build i managed to fold PE using fine tipped tweezers or my beloved reverse action tweezer but this.... i am slightly frustrated to say the least...

Other than that i must say that the PE has been working out fantastic for me and makes the model look so much better every time a new piece is added/ replaced.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:41 AM

Guys, Thanks for the kind words. I must say that working with the PE sofar has been very enjoyable even though it is sometimes a bit of work when you have to carefully fold it into shape.

Front mudguards:

Grilles and assembly of the mufflers:

More soon!Wink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:38 AM

Very nice start Richard.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by bufflehead on Friday, October 21, 2011 11:52 PM

PE additions are looking pretty good Richard!

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Friday, October 21, 2011 2:51 PM

Yup Rich I'm pretty sure the assembly of the barrel will be so easy even a caveman could do it.*

(* appologies in advance to any cavemen or cavewomen on this board)

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by kermit on Friday, October 21, 2011 1:52 PM

Guys,

Thank you each and everyone for your invaluable help!Yes Im sure, with wbill's explanation (and mikeym's correction) i can assemble the barrel if i put my three braincells to it...

Bufflehead,

Yup!Big Smile Same one. Every now and then i do post a build thread here and this particular build is a big deal to me as i am scratching for the first time (seatbelts dont count) and working with PE for pretty much the first time, especially on this scale. So i can use all the knowledge i can getStick out tongue

Progress is little... the last two weeks i havent gotten much done due to life's issues but i did get some good time in tonight:

Front hatches (nasty glue residue has been summarily dealt with after seeing the first picture appear on my screenSmile:

Engine compartiment. Basic engine but effective enough as it will be mostly hidden away from view. Satin gloss black, aluminum and drybrushes with white and gunmetal, all acrylic:

And these PE bolts spice up the area underneath the front a bit. The original area was bare plastic:

So much for now...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, October 17, 2011 10:37 PM

Richard, isn't this the kit you're building for the Ostfront 2 GB? In any event, I'm watching this one!  I've seen this kit on eBay so many times...always wondered how it built up!  I like how you're approaching it - putting enough detail to spruce up what it lacks, but not worrying about all the minor details!  Thanks for posting the WIP on the Armor forum for all to see!!

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, October 17, 2011 9:33 PM

wbill76

RB models don't come with instructions as a rule. It's one of the reasons why they are cheaper vs say Armorscale or Aber.

The parts you're having trouble with are part of the muzzle brake and baffle system. The large round brass piece on the far right goes in between the two halves of the muzzle brake (should slip right into place, probably with the rear half), The PE fret contains detail parts to add to the large brass insert. The three rings "stack" on top of each other to simulate the detail that would be present and visible...that's why there's a raised "lip" in the center around the round opening (you may only need to use 2 of the rings instead of all three, different brakes have different details). The two smaller pieces on the PE fret are meant to represent the locking nut that secures the muzzle brake to the actual barrel after it was threaded into position. HTH! 

Bill the 3rd ring is actually a spacer between the muzzle brake and the barrel. Place it on the barrel then screw on the muzzle brake and it provides the correct spacing.

 I have RB Models barrels for the Stug III and the Panther and the muzzle brakes of all three are similar to the Tiger I brakes in design and parts breakdown.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 17, 2011 4:59 PM

RB models don't come with instructions as a rule. It's one of the reasons why they are cheaper vs say Armorscale or Aber.

The parts you're having trouble with are part of the muzzle brake and baffle system. The large round brass piece on the far right goes in between the two halves of the muzzle brake (should slip right into place, probably with the rear half), The PE fret contains detail parts to add to the large brass insert. The three rings "stack" on top of each other to simulate the detail that would be present and visible...that's why there's a raised "lip" in the center around the round opening (you may only need to use 2 of the rings instead of all three, different brakes have different details). The two smaller pieces on the PE fret are meant to represent the locking nut that secures the muzzle brake to the actual barrel after it was threaded into position. HTH! 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, October 17, 2011 4:32 PM

Hi Richard....     great subject and great endeavor       will be watching the progress

Not familiar with the barrell / instructions however.. sorry

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by kermit on Monday, October 17, 2011 3:15 PM

wbill76,

Thank you sir![y[ I must admit i am really testing new ground here but it makes the build all the more exciting!

Not much in the way of progress to report... life gets in the way of things sometimes... However, today my rbmodels barrel came in from Hong Kong. Picked up from ebay it was half as expensive as a similar barrel i found in the UK... The ten day wait was worth it in that respectWink

The one problem i am encountering at the moment is the complete lack of any instructions for it. Tinkering with it i figured out the basic construction, also helped by a pic from rbmodels' website but i seem to be left with some parts i cant figure out where and how to place. I have marked them with question marks in the next picture:

Are these supposed to come without instructions? And does anybody know how to assemble this particular barrel? I am at a complete loss here...Embarrassed

Richard

 

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:41 AM

Always fun to strike out for new territory and stretch your legs as a modeler! You never know until you try and you've got a good philosophy/approach to the build. Will be following with interest. Yes

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, October 9, 2011 10:10 AM

Byrden,

Haven't really chosen yet but there are a few that caught my eye... Will post a pic of a profile as soon as i make up my mind. I have Osprey's book on the tiger as well as a polish book called "tank power; tigers at kursk". It contains some profile pictures.

Labour In Vain,

Thank you!

Not much to show at the moment... I am cleaning a plethora

yes... a plethora of roadwheels at the momentSmile

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Labour In Vain on Sunday, October 9, 2011 9:41 AM

Looking forward to your updates on this one Richard.

As always
Boarder

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Posted by Byrden on Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:19 AM

Do you want some photos of relevant Tigers? Did you choose a unit?

David

 

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Italeri Tiger 1 1:35 scale. A first kitbashing adventure
Posted by kermit on Sunday, October 9, 2011 3:24 AM

Friends,

After asking away on this part of the forum

/forums/t/141818.aspx

i kinda felt it might be fun for the seasoned veterans to see a greenhorn frog try his webbed hands at attempting to upgrade Italeri's tiger into something more suitable for a Kursk era tiger. I will also add an Eduard PE set and a RB models metal barrel. 

The kit i bought:

Appearantly the (tp) on the box stands for "tropical"... Something i was unaware of when i purchased it. To make this initial production tiger into something Kursk-like i will have to convert some things as you can read in the link above.

Not being the rivet counting type i am willing to take this with a grain of salt, attempting to convert the most obvious differences. Being new to the whole kitbashing thing and having next to no experience with PE, this might prove to be amusing to you armor gods outthereWink

I have already made a start on the kit. A short summary:

Due to the construction design i was left with some seams on the hull tub. A bit of filler and sanding should do the trick here:

The rear end plate has some issues to solve. My tiger will not have the Notek formationlights so i sanded those off as well as the mounting points for the jack. Lastly i have cut away the inside part of the towing hook and drilled holes in it. A piece of copper wire was attached to upgrade:

My first serious foray into working with PE has started by assembling the three piece braces for the jack after cutting away the square lumps of plastic italeri offered me. A tip from a fellow modeler showed me how to use masking tape on the PE frets to keep them from flying into oblivion. Very effectiveSmile:

So far so good i'd say... Hope you guys will appreciate my efforts and thank you for watching aongToast

Richard

 

 

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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