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1/35 XM77 "Sledgehammer" New Pics up!
Posted by TheWildChild on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:19 AM

(Re-posted from my original thread mistakenly placed in the "General Modeling Discussion" part of the forum)

i have wanted to do this for a long long time but just now got around to actually getting the resources to actually give my first kitbashing a whirl. in my attempts to occupy my time during study hall at school i drew up a "what if" fortification destroyer/super heavy tank based on the M1A2 Abrams. i showed it to one of my teachers (also a model builder and military buff) and he suggested that i build it in scale.......... the thought had crossed my mind, but now that somebody else suggested it i had i absolutly HAD to build it lol. I have hinted around to this project for quite some time, but Christmas gave me the opportunity to actually get what i needed to attempt the project. i got the two abrams kits for about $22 each on scalehobbyist.com, they are the trumpeter M1A1/ M1A2 5 in 1 kits (kit no. 01535) and they gave me everything i needed: two hulls (one for chopping the other for building) as well as almost enough road wheels and tracks, and two of the mine plows which wil be mashed into one big one to fit the vehicles wider hull and tracks. i did pick up some Verinden M2 .50 cals though, as the kit supplied ones were a bit soft in detail. I will also be scratching two of the TUSK stye turrets for the top of the main turret. i will be posting this as a WIP. this is my first attempt at a scratch build/kit bash, not sure which one to classify it as. I will post more pics as the build continues...enjoy!

 

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture941.jpg

the entire kit has a pebbly finish, not just the non-skid surface area.

 

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture901.jpg

not a great pic, but a basic overview of what i plan to do.

 

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture839.jpg

as you can see the hull is a bit to short...

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture837-1.jpg

...and a bit too narrow

 

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture840.jpg

 

Doner hull is chopped on both sides...

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture842.jpg

...and the bigger hull begins to take shape. because the suspension is offset slightly on each side i had to cut just a piece of each side out and stretch the hull out and full on the massive gap on the bottom with sheet styrene, its there but hard to see in the pic.

 

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture899.jpg

the bigger hull is then widened by 2 cm...at this point the original hull can fairly easily fit inside the bigger one.

for a bigger hull, bigger tracks are needed, so i took the M1's standard track inks, cut one part of them off, leaving the alignment spike attached to the track pad i wanted to keep. i then cut off the outermost pad connector from another piece of length, sanded both edges smooth and eve, and glued them together to make a wider track (thank god there were plastic link-and-length tracks in this kit, because the rubber ones were so warped they looked like a black snake slithering around in the box)

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture894.jpg

 

because the tracks were wider, the drive sprocket and road wheels needed to be wider as well. i made the sprocket wider be attaching the inner piece of the drive sprocket from the second kit to the finished sprocket from kit #1. and since i pan on keeping the alignment spikes for both inside joints on the track, the inner tooth ring on the drive sprocket had to go...Mr. Motor Tool is proving very helpful lol.

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/Sammi1992_2008/Picture897.jpg

 

More to come soon!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:57 AM

Looks like it's going to be a monster, keep up the good work

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Posted by TheWildChild on Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:14 PM

Not a real big update, but i got the main work done on the mine plow.

First, i cut the donor mounting frame (top pieces) in an area that i could graft into the second part easily. with the extra width inserted (bottom) i glued together and mounted to the hull.

 

 

my original plan was to use something like the picture below...

...but that would barely reach out to the outside of the wider tracks, and would just plow up a massive trench under the tank. so a little chopping, grinding, cussing, dry fitting and gluing later, i wound up with the more satisfactory one below

 

its wide enough to reach outside the tracks, keeps a good view for the driver, and keeps the bottom of the hull relatively free from excess dirt. the other "ski" is drying as i post this. this is as far as i can go for now, as all the hydraulic hoses and control cables mount to the top of the hull.

my initial though about the quality of this kit was kind of skeptical, but it really gives you a lot of detail for not having any PE, but another thing that really surprised me is that the travel lock for the plow is functional, it can be posed deployed or stowed for rapid movement...

 

 

also, just mulling over the bench giving me fingers a break, i had a rather strange idea....(insert evil laugh here lol) and wound up with this...

no worries though, the turret will stay with the tiger hull lol. kinda got me thinkin though.............

more to come soon! Upper hull construction starts next!

 

 

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by the doog on Friday, January 13, 2012 11:01 AM

I always appreciate seeing a project that has a personal "vision", whether it's realistic or not. It's cool to see what comes out of individual minds.

Not saying that your "vision" isn't realistic either. Though it would probably be prohibitively expensive to build and transport!

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Posted by TheWildChild on Friday, January 13, 2012 12:49 PM

thanks doog. yeah i think the transport part would be especially difficult...this would be about 4 feet wider and about 10 feet longer than an abrams and combat weight with the plow of around 95 tons... a bit too big for the C-5 or C-17 lol. im very surprised how smoothly this is going for being my first time kitbashing and scratchbuilding more than a few pieces. surely they arent all this easy.

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, January 13, 2012 1:16 PM

Looks like an interesting "what-if" project. Don't jinx things though by thinking everything is going to be smooth sailing...that's right when the storms hit! Propeller You're doing a good job of slicing and dicing with the donor hull and parts, look forward to seeing the end result.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 13, 2012 2:17 PM

The plow is really coming along great!

You know the more I look at her the more I'd be tempted to widen the turret too and install twin main guns Stick out tongue

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Posted by TheWildChild on Friday, January 13, 2012 3:13 PM

Gamera

You know the more I look at her the more I'd be tempted to widen the turret too and install twin main guns Stick out tongue

i was actually thinking about two main guns, but i was following a build of a tank that was part of the Gundam series that had twin main guns, it looked cool but i thought storing ammo for two main guns would be kind of a tight squeeze lol. i will probably have enough left over parts (im not using any of the kit gun barrels) to make a second turret with the double main guns. other than the periscope ring for the commanders hatch i will have a complete regular Abrams turret to hack up. i plan on using just sheet styrene to enlarge the first turret, not donor parts like on other pieces, so i could modify that one.

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

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"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by TheWildChild on Friday, January 13, 2012 3:22 PM

also, anybody have any suggestions for official name designation? "Super Abrams" isnt really appropriate i suppose since it is an entirely new tank (albiet made of Abrams parts) i was thinking "M77 Sledgehammer"...im going to drop the "X" because im modeling it as it would be in combat... or should i just keep with the tradition of naming it after Generals? if so, any suggestions for deserving Generals?

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 13, 2012 3:42 PM

Yeah, I think it was the Gundam tank I saw with the twin guns that I thought was really cool.

Lee, Grant, Jackson, Sherman, Patton- most of the cooler generals have already been used. Maybe 'Juggernant', 'Hercules'  or 'Samson' would work. Or you could name it the 'Von Manstein'... Wink

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Posted by the doog on Friday, January 13, 2012 4:01 PM

I think the "Sledgehammer" is a great name. It really packs a rhetorical punch!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, January 13, 2012 4:02 PM

Puller....

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Posted by TheWildChild on Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:54 AM

Gamera

Or you could name it the 'Von Manstein'... Wink

LOL 

I kinda like "Juggernaut" too.

the gundam tank i saw had a camo pattern similar to the red and yellow splinter camo on the Sukhoi SU-37 but in grey and green (i think)

 

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:53 PM

Hey, Sledgehammer works for me too.

I was thinking 'Eisenhower' might work as a general's name as well.

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:12 PM

M77 Storm (after "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf) ?

Again Keeping with the General thing

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Posted by kettenkopf on Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:20 AM

Ditto, Schwarzkopf. 

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Posted by moose421 on Sunday, January 15, 2012 4:04 PM

Or Franks.  That would be a great general/ tank name

Kim

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Posted by TomZ2 on Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:24 PM

Gamera

Hey, Sledgehammer works for me too.

I was thinking 'Eisenhower' might work as a general's name as well.

“Eisenhower”? “McAuliffe” !!! General Anthony Clement McAuliffe
(July 2, 1898 – August 11, 1975) “NUTS!”

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Posted by TheWildChild on Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:11 PM

TomZ2

 

 Gamera:

 

Hey, Sledgehammer works for me too.

I was thinking 'Eisenhower' might work as a general's name as well.

 

 

“Eisenhower”? “McAuliffe” !!! General Anthony Clement McAuliffe
(July 2, 1898 – August 11, 1975) “NUTS!”

if i dont go with Juggernaut or Sledgehammer i will go with this lol

 

 

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

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"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:46 PM

TomZ2

 

 Gamera:

 

Hey, Sledgehammer works for me too.

I was thinking 'Eisenhower' might work as a general's name as well.

 

 

“Eisenhower”? “McAuliffe” !!! General Anthony Clement McAuliffe
(July 2, 1898 – August 11, 1975) “NUTS!”

Lol, yeah McAuliffe works for me too Yes

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Posted by TheWildChild on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:08 PM

Gamera

 

You know the more I look at her the more I'd be tempted to widen the turret too and install twin main guns Stick out tongue

i did a quick inventory of whats parts i'd be using, and im pretty certian i will be making TWO turrets for this tank...one with the 200mm main gun, and one with two 120mm main guns. Gamera thank you for bringing that up, otherwise i wouldnt have actually done it lol.

got the upper hull started. cut off the side skirts and now just trying to figure out where to cut up, seperate, and extend the hull. lots of panels with strange shapes and angles make this more difficult than one might think lol.

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:18 AM

Sounds cool! Hope you don't get mad at me for making extra work though Wink

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Posted by TheWildChild on Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:04 AM

nah not at all. it actually will keep me from needing a second spares box lol.

 

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by TheWildChild on Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:45 AM

ok, finally got work started on the rear upper hull

 

i cut at this spot on the donor hull (it will be easiest to mount to the front part of the upper hull) and cut along the sharpie lines...

and glued the cut parts to the sides on the rear upper hull....a bit wider than a regular abrams hull eh? still working out exactly how to stretch the roof though, i dont want to just put the front part where it would be on the hull because the turret would sit way too far forward. speaking of turret......

i cut it apart at easy-to-fix areas (mostly along panel and weld lines).....

 

and stretched it wider, and longer...after all, if you are packing twin main guns you need more space in the rear to store ammo...

i glued .015'' sheet styrene to the side of the hull and trimmed, sanded, and filed until the sides of the panels were all flat. .080" sheet will be added over this on the sides, front,and rear of the turret as well as places on the hull...adding an additional 2.8 scale inches of armor .52 scale inches added by the .015 styrene.........rolling steel mill anybody? lol now, all this armor is no good if it cant defend itself. since i dont yet have the 200mm main gun barrel, this will be the twin gun turret.

 

the 120mm gun barrels went together pretty roughly...after i ran the inside joints over a file for a few minutes they fit better. i glued the mantets together first, then put the barrels in...since they fit pretty loosly i could then make sure they were the same elevation and same direction laterally.

 

heres  the turret in relation to a can of building fuel.(haha) i had to make a piece for the top of the turret so i could fit the second M1A1 style periscope hatch on the other side of the turret. using a circle cutter i sliced a hole in the "patch" that will help cover the massive holes in the top of the turret and glued it on.

 

this is how it looks so far...

 

...really starting to look like a tank eh? Gamera i am beginning to think this was a very very good idea:)

more to come soon!

 

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:48 AM

Definitely some nice stretch/scratch work you've got going on with this project. Have to agree, those twin barrels look mean...kind of reminds me of a battleship-style turret! Yes

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 23, 2012 8:56 AM

Yeahowww!!! That looks like one rough customer!!!!

Those Third Reich paper panzer supertanks look like wusses compared to the XM77 Yes

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Posted by TheWildChild on Monday, January 23, 2012 9:06 AM

im still thinkin about that tiger turret on here though lol. or maybe an MLRS launcher attached to the rear of the turret...i think that would be a bit of overkill lol.

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by Scratchbuilder725 on Monday, January 23, 2012 11:30 AM

TheWildChild

im still thinkin about that tiger turret on here though lol. or maybe an MLRS launcher attached to the rear of the turret...i think that would be a bit of overkill lol.

NO such thing as too much firepower! i say go for it!! put that mlrs on the back or make a temp. mock up and then decide! good luck!!

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Posted by TomZ2 on Monday, January 23, 2012 5:09 PM

Any electric tank armor?

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Posted by TheWildChild on Monday, January 23, 2012 7:01 PM

TomZ2

Any electric tank armor? http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armynews/editions/1063/images/images600/10electricarmourdemo.jpg

 

is this the stuff thats also on the newest Challenger 2?

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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