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Zil 157 truck from Trumpeter kit 204 . Its 9-26 and Its finished ! Cutting edge pictures posted !

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  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:53 PM

   I hab it Master, Vill dare be any tink else, Master?

 

boy dis this thread gets weirder and weirder

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:05 AM

Now, to post totally off topic, let me paste this:

Apart of my wiring, the headliner and the strenghtening of the rear cab wall might be of interest to you, Carl. Good luck with your build, you're doing a fine job, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:39 AM

Steve , yes it is getting weird ...............but that happens sometimes .Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:48 AM

Pawel , beautiful detailing . I like the under dash wiring you did . On my model this is about all of the under dash i'll be doing . Thanks for the picture .

I worked on the hood ,sliced the hood in half .

It will look something like this when its completed . This temporary .

I thought i would have the hood finished but my method of attaching the halves didnt work so i going to strip the paint and rework the attachment ..........if it doesnt make since .wait and i'll have pictures when i get it done . Been busy here with other things but i;ll into the assembly this weekend . Toast

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:59 AM

Nice work on the surgery, hope it plays out as expected Carl. Look forward to the next update!

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Posted by treadwell on Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:46 AM

Looking good,Shell !  I was away for a couple days...nice to see your progress !Yes

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:05 PM

Bill and William thanks guys .Yes I stripped the paint off of the hood parts , soaked them in Simple Green for a couple of days and the enamel paint brushed off easily enough . I can get those put back together and repainted today .  

Toast

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Posted by DUSTER on Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:24 PM

Shellback

... I stripped the paint off of the hood parts , soaked them in Simple Green for a couple of days and the enamel paint brushed off easily enough . I can get those put back together and repainted today .  

Toast

 
 
 
Simple Green is my "go to" paint stripper also. It has stripped every type of paint I have tried it on -iincluding Alclad II- great stuff and relatively cheep to use any amount needed and as needed.
 
Plus, I like it because it is so... Simple..........to..........use----- ----nevermind.
 
Lookin' fwd to your next update.

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:59 PM

Steve ......Yes.......thanks .

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:00 PM

Ok , i re-worked the hinges on the hood and the fit is satisfactory now . What i did was file out the notches in between the hinges so that there is more surface for the glue to adhere too .

The seats that come in the kit are one piece for the back rest and one piece for the bottom . I cut  the back and bottom parts to make the bottom into 2 parts and the back rest into 2 parts . Then i grooved the cushions with a file and sand paper to distort the surface . Then i brushed on lacquer thinner and stippled the surface to roghen it up . After that cured and hardened i lightly sanded the high spots

 Finally i used stretched spue to simulate beading on the upholstery .

Working on more cab interior detail next .

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:34 PM

Hood =  great

seats =  out standing! 

defiantly filing that technique away for a future build

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:09 AM

Steve , glad you like Yes

 

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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:56 AM

hey ShellStick out tongue  those seats look good enough to sit on ! Looks like my living room furniture !....seriously , with the addition of the stretched sprue for beading, they look like the real deal YesBeer...super realistic.

The hood looks nice too.!

I sent you a message back..check yer mail partner!

great work man!

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:24 AM

Meesa likey the hood.

Meesa REALLY likly the seats.

Meesa gonna looky the seats in a certain halftrack Whistling to see if worky there too

Marc  

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:30 PM

William i answered you message a few minutes ago .Toast

Steve ,William , Marc , i'm surprised you guys like the seats that welll . I did a sloppy job onthe beading and wasnt sure how accurate it looked . I guess i did ok . Heck i was going to redo it till i read both of yours and Steves comments . Good enough then guys .Yes

Marc , you probably already know this .the seats in this Zil are some kind of vinyle it looks like . I'm pretty sure the seat in the M2/M3 are canvas but they still have a small bead . Like i said you probably already know this ...... so excuzzee mezee if'n you noze this alreadeeze ................Yes

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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:44 PM

Hey Shell.. I meant to tell you before, if you have to strip paint ( enamel or acrylic or Tamiya ) regular brake fluid works better than anything I have ever tried. and it absolutely does not touch the plastic or soften fine details. Most times I have used it , I only need to let the part soak for about 3 minutes and then wash under cool running water and gently get in all the details with an old soft tooth brush or even an old paint brush .

Next time you paint something, paint some scrap or parts you don't need and when the paint is cured just give the old brake fluid a try. You will love it.

I got your e mailWink

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, August 26, 2012 4:47 PM

Shell, you would be surprised how little I "already know." I most definitely learn a lot as I go along in the hobby. For me though, when the subject of, "What do you like about this hobby” comes up... .I am all about the build. Making parts fit, techniques, running into a problem then figuring it out. That type of stuff.

In my club when the guys are talking to me about a particular whatever they see the blank(ish) look on my face and this is the conversation...

"You have no clue what I am talking about."

"Nope."

"You just wanna build one."

"Yup"

So when I see a cool thing like that bead on the seat cushion, I file that away to use one day. In this case that one day will be soonWink

And what I liked about yours was that uneven sort of look that you have. You call it sloppy... I call it a worn seat that has had many a keister in it and is all misshapen.

 

Marc  

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:27 PM

William .....brake fluid , ok , thanks . I cant remember if i have any around to test with . Good idea .

Marc , good deal then . I'm trying to make this vehicle have the look of being used hard and not taken care of look .sounds like maybe i'll get that look on this one .

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:46 PM

Nice work on the details as usual Carl! The trick with the seat cushions has worked out very well. Having things not be quite perfect (within reason of course) adds character to a build when you're adding these types of details and makes it stand-out vs. take away from the finish IMHO. Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:36 PM

Bill , thanks ! I got the radiator in ! Yes

Oops ! I never got back to the cab today . Whistling

I finally have the wire rope and hook on the winch now .The kit comes with a length of thread but it was hairier than a dogs tail ! so i dug into my ship building supplies and found some rigging thread that world .

After some flat black and metalic gray paint i wound it on the winch drum and then touched it up with some mig pigs (Marc) .When i worked on a line crew our winch had a heavy spring steel guard over the wire rope behind the hook to protect the eye splice , so i added that detail here .

 

 

 

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Posted by Guney on Monday, August 27, 2012 4:22 PM

Still here for watching this fine works...:)

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, August 27, 2012 4:50 PM

My-T-Fine Shell !YesBeer.... the detail on the hook end looks very realistic as does the cable itself. Nice work on getting the metallic quality to come through.... Now I see the oil cooler and I see the radiator, but I think you forgot to put the A/C condenser in !!Crying   ... you don't want the NVA to break a sweat do ya ?Tongue Tied... Their butts will stick to your leather seats and ruin the nice job you did  ! Whistling

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 27, 2012 5:06 PM

Nice job on the cable Carl. Yes I don't know that the Soviets were too big on the creature comforts...but an AC in the jungle would've been nice I'm sure! Big Smile

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, August 27, 2012 7:11 PM

William and Bill ......Thanks for the comments Yes.......i dont know what that third radiator is either .Hmm I dont think its for a.c. though as i dont see a a.c. compressor on the engine . The compressor that is on the pasenger side front is foe the air brakes i'm pretty sure .It 's all covered up with the radiator shroud and not much can be seen in there when its done .

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, August 27, 2012 7:45 PM

Hey Shell I was joking about the A/C condenser, but with your reference picture I am pretty sure I can tell you the smallest (first one towards the outside) is an engine oil cooler, the second ( that looks mostly like just vertical pipes ) is most likely the transmission and transfer case cooler and the one closest to the engine is , of course , the radiator... I don't know of many (any ?) vehicles from that era that would have A/C.. unless they were U.S.....It is really hard to be sure of what I am looking at with just one pic...the vertical pipes don't appear to be just a guard so I am gonna go with my theory.... cool picture Smile

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, August 27, 2012 7:50 PM

Hey Shell ... I blew that pic up on my computer and when I did , the vertical pipes now look like radiator ' Flaps '  that would be controlled by the driver or thermostat... does the model have any cooling hoses leading off the tranny ?

B

   

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, August 27, 2012 7:52 PM

Jeez, you are way too good for me... looking great!

Andy

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, August 27, 2012 8:03 PM

Hi Andy ; -).... hey Shell , I am wading through a PDF shop manual for the Zil and there is a power steering cooler located at the bottom of the radiator as a separate unit....more soon

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, August 27, 2012 8:33 PM

all the air in the tires is also controlled by the compressor that supplies air to the air brakes....I just went through 467 pages only to find that the cooling system (and other systems ) is in ' Part 1 ' which I can't seem to find ....dam

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, August 27, 2012 10:39 PM

That erks me... can't find nuthin' on the cooling system... sorry

   

 

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