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Br 52 WIP

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  • Member since
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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:54 PM

ANDY - Beer thanks buddy Beer

STEVE - Thanks for the help with the paint, I'm working on it, almost ready......

CARL - Thought it was a very appropriate name for the same reason.  The nice thing about this booth is you can almost put that "Peacemaker" in it !  It will take a whole 1/48 B17, or 24, 25 etc.  Should have plenty of room for my armor Big Smile

Not quite as far as had wanted to be but might get to laying some paint down tonight?  Have to finish up the cabin work first and have been working on it today.

Added - Styrene strip with hex bolt heads for caps, 3 wire pull valve handles, wired all gages, chain, burner door shelf, stove lid guard, and drilled the holes in the door.

Pull valve handles

more plumbing

top view

Now back to work and wrap up the interior and get ready to paint it.

Rob

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:59 PM

Some really great looking details Rob !

I wounder if a 1/72nd B36 would fit in there ?

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  • From: ohio
Posted by vonryan on Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:03 PM

"HOLE CRAP"!!!!!! Rob thats AWESOME!!! i've always wanted to make a full train even with Karl i have it "ALMOST DONE" really like this build buddy.

 

Clay

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    August 2012
  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:46 PM

Thats insane you must have a ton of research on this

Clint

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:45 PM

That's some sweet looking detail work Rob. Very cool, almost a shame to paint it!  

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 1, 2012 8:39 PM

CARL - B36 would hang out a little but not much......just enough to tease youStick out tongue

CLAY - Thanks a bunch!  You could use a train to move all those Sherman's your building Surprise

RAMBO - Unfortunately don't have that much hard copy research on this Sad  Usually for my builds I have many books, pictures, and have seen most of my subjects in person but this is not the case with the BR 52.  Have been searching a lot on the net to find what I need.

BILL - Thanks...paint is soon on the way though Yes

OPEN OR CLOSED, THATS THE QUESTION?  Not knowing exactly how the overall scene will play out in the very end, could not decide if the cabin windows should be open or closed?  Was back and forth for a while but the decision must be made so that I can put in any required items before assembly and painting.  Decided to make a simple window jam and have my windows have the ability to slide open or closed.  Looks like this

Have the back part of the frame cut and ready but it will not be added until painting of the inside of the bulkheads.  Must be painted first, then add the window, then can add the last part of the frame.

Have also given the wood parts; cabin floor, seats and seat backs, tender coal retaining planks, and smoke deflectors a base coat of MM Wood.  They will receive a coat of Dullcote tonight and left to cure overnight then will use my wood painting procedure tomorrow.

Would like to add how much I really like this new paint booth !!!  Have not done much but can tell already from the ease, good suction, very low noise and room, it is really great! 

Thanks for looking and happy building Cool

Rob

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 1, 2012 9:06 PM

Rob , glad the new paint booth really sucks ............errrr.......Whistling

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:31 AM

Hey Rob , check out these railroad buffers from RB models .....

http://www.rbmodel.com/picture.php?dir=35A10

http://www.rbmodel.com/picture.php?dir=35A11

 

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:40 PM

Now that's what I call a nice solution to a difficult choice...open or closed! Top-notch work as usual Rob. Yes

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Thursday, October 4, 2012 12:01 PM

Hi Rob Smile

Exquisite job on the window problem !... you added a lot of detail and solved a touchy problem in one swoop!

The boiler firewall looks great too!Stick out tongue

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Friday, October 5, 2012 7:42 PM

CARL - Those are nice looking buffers.  I'll go take a better look at RB.  Will also have to pull out the dragon kits to see how things would work out.  There is one problem with those buffers though, they are both flat faced but one of the two should have a globe shape to it to be correct.  They still look really tempting though Stick out tongue

BILL, TREAD - Glad y'all like the window fix Big Smile  Your right, a little detail and a simple solution.

OK, been sitting here sniffing paint fumes and watching my paint dry.  Needs to dry faster. 

Put down the base color then post shaded the interior pieces, done a little detail paint work, and have given the wood pieces it's first wash of artist oil.  Have also given the tender a primer coat of flat black.  Now the waiting game so that I can continue with these parts.

Rob

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Friday, October 5, 2012 8:07 PM

You never cease to impress me Rob !

Here's the page with Rb's selection of buffers . #35A09 looks flat .Yes

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Friday, October 5, 2012 9:02 PM

Thanks Carl Big Smile

Found the correct buffers at RB, they are nice.....Hmm

Rob

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:36 AM

Started weathering the deck

Rob

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Saturday, October 6, 2012 12:33 PM

Your wood floor looks more like wood than my floor Rob ! What ever technique you have developed is really working well ...............the details and weathering on the boiler wall is just perfect !Takes lots of pics of this because its going to be a shame when its covered up with the cab my friend .Toast

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Posted by Guney on Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:32 PM

Amazing....!

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:54 PM

Nicely done finish on the wood! Rest of the detail painting isn't too shabby either! :)

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, October 7, 2012 11:05 AM

CARL - The wood technique used was the same as I had used and explained when building the "Typ Ommr Gondola Car" not that long ago.  Will do my wood in this method from now on.  You can also get many variations of wear, from new to old, using this technique just by using more or less of the colors involved.

As far as not being able to see the interior, that was the main reason I had originally wanted to put lights on this build.  Sense that idea was scrapped, I will be using BILL'S idea (looking at his build on his site, thanks Bill) and I will leave the overhead removable for future viewing pleasures.

OH....If your floors look like that....UH...You need to clean them.....Just saying Whistling

GUNEY - Thanks buddy and thanks for following along Yes

BILL - As always, really appreciate the comments my friend Beer

FLIRTING WITH DISASTER!

Well I had everything painted, weather and pleased with the results so went in for assembly.......that's when DISASTER struck!

Nothing would fit together, the cab, cap to the boiler, the sides, everything would not go together! After examining found that I had glued the boiler firewall in the wrong place, had glued it flush with the bulkhead it sits on. Here is a modified pic of what I'm talking about.  Not a very good one (did not think to take picture in the heat of the moment) but look down in the corner and you can see that the bottom are flush with each other.

The problem is that the boiler firewall should be raised on that bulkhead about 1/16 and believe it or not, if it isn't nothing will work out!!!  OK, the reason this was a big deal to fix, the boiler face was glued to the bulkhead first using MM liquid cement and after drying had went back and more or less poured CA glue inside on the seam.  I new I would be handling this a lot doing the scratch work so wanted it to be strong.  So probably don't have to say, getting it apart was a Censored !!!  After a few hours, much patience, cutting and prying it finally came apart.

After getting it apart much careful sanding and scraping with knife blades got things back to order.  Then the paint repair and construction began Big Smile  This is now where she's at:

The right bulkhead is not attached yet and will remain off until I can get the seats put in.  That may take a little time because I plan on modifying the seat backs.  But here are some close ups of the right window.

looking at that pic I see a pin mark that I need to go fix Tongue Tied

Left window

And last few pictures

Hope this was not to long but remember if anyone builds this kit, be careful with how that firewall joins together!

Until next time Beer

Rob

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:19 PM

Sorry to hear about the mishap Rob but you've fixed it and done such a good job that no one will ever know the difference! Love the coal dust/debris detail around the fire box, nice touch. Yes

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:56 PM

Thanks Bill !  It was a relieve that the fix went well, that"s for sure.  Good to hear you like the coal debris, was looking for something a little bit extra and thought that would do it.

Presently typing with one hand and holding the boiler tube long enough for it to dry enough to set down.  Have given it a coat of flat black for a base primer, should of thought enough in advance to make some-kind of jig to set it on for drying.

Next will be to spray same flat black base on the frame, set both aside a let dry.  While these are drying may start working on the tender again.  Had given it it's base coat a few days ago and it is ready to start painting.

Rob

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  • From: Mexico
Posted by rtvmodeler on Sunday, October 7, 2012 3:00 PM

Smile Excellent detail with this great monster!!

Regards!
Rodolfo

Current Project:

Figures from Dragon, "German 6th Army, Stalingrad 1942-1943", 1/35

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, October 7, 2012 5:15 PM

Good ! You saved it !!! And it looks even better now with the added soot .

By the way , my floors are really a mess . This house is over a hundred yrs old and after remodeling and removing walls the original floor is scratched and gauged and pieced out with different looking boards . We had it covered with carpet about 25 yrs ago and just recently pulled all of the carpet up and trashed it . Low and behold the awful looking floor is still down there !!! am planning on putting in a laminated wood floor .

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, October 7, 2012 6:14 PM

RODOLFO - Yes

CARL - Beer Can your floors be sanded out?  Either way sounds like a job, if I was closer would give you a hand.  Remember when working, take many breaks and hydrate BeerBeer

THE NIGHT TRAIN

Rob

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Sunday, October 7, 2012 7:30 PM

Hi Rob Smile

Man o' man dude, she is just beautiful !  I love the big machinery (tanks) and as a kid always loved model railroad in H.O. scale ... you are just tweeking my head with the best of 2 of my worlds and even in 1/35 scale is just huge !  

Your piping and woodwork is perfect looking.YeahYes

It is much to your credit that a really good modeler like you writes about their mishaps. Tough as it might be . it give hope to new guys or kids just getting started that they are not alone...hell it gives me hope Big Smile

The finished job on the sliding glass came out so nice it's a shame you don't work for them so they could have your vision.

first classBeer

tread  (or Bill what ever you prefer, some people call me william, thats ok tooCool

   

 

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, October 7, 2012 7:54 PM

Stunning work the interior!  Great save there.   Really dig the work on the coal by the burner.

Andy

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:18 PM

Sad really , painting all of that sweet detail matt black . But i'm sure your skills at weathering will make it all stand out again Rob .Yes

Sidw note . Hey William my dad wad a HO scale model railroader . We used to go watch trains on the week end .............ever heard of Cajon Pass , So.Cal ? You tube it . Thats where we used to go .Yes

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 8, 2012 2:03 PM

Super Angry  Had post written, when ready to send lost power, rewrite Super Angry

WILLIAM - Thank you very much for your gracis comments!  I really value them especially coming from someone like you!  You (and others on here) have been one of my inspirations sence seeing your work and your willingness of explanations.  I still strive to accomplish the level of yours and others work here on the forum.

Mishaps with modeling always occure (at least with me) and they seem to happen when least expected.  As much as I do not like these mishaps, in the ever ending pursuit to become better, I value them.  Along with mishaps always comes resolutions, ingenuity, and the chance to learn from them.  So I do not mind and actually find it better to show problems and not just the success along the way.  I always hope I can learn from them as well as help others.  If it helps just one of you guys out, well then that means it wasn't really a mishap, right Big Smile

It sounds as if some of our interest are among the same lines and maybe Carl's too.  Armor, YES Yes but steam power also Yes  This is way off subject but thought you might like to see some pictures of some engines & boiler made from scratch some years back.  They are pictures of pictures so not the best quality.  All of these engines run and depending on which can produce quite a few horses and able to run small machinery.

Engine and boiler

Gas engine

Hot air engine (front)

hot air engine (back)

Steam engine after clean-up and assembly

When I say from scratch, well I had to build my own foundry: furnace, pattern & sand boxes, etc.  Then would go to the junkyard and they would give me old pistons and few other assorted items which would be melted down and cast into parts.  All the parts first had to be made from wood and/or resigns for a master.  Then once cast, filing, sanding, honing, drilling, plumbing, .........., and finally assembly was done.  These engines are all back home (different state then I'm in now) but can always send some new, better, more detailed pictures to you if your interested the next time I get back home to check on things.

I also build my own tools.  Here is a small modeling lathe, I do have this here with me, built using the methods as above. 

OH and she runs and works great for plastics, wood, and soft metals.

Not sure if I said everything but want to post before losing power again Beer

Rob

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 8, 2012 2:35 PM

ANDY - Hey man!  Haven't seen you around lately......Glade you stopped in and thanks for the comments.  Nice to hear you like Yes

CARL - Now you know that black is just to develop shadow and depth to the overall finish of the build once finished painting.  There will be three different grays going on top of this so it will be going from very dark (black) to light gray.  The fun part will be to get the dunkelgelb zig-zag to do the same Tongue Tied  Will see if t works out??

That Cajon Pass looks pretty cool Yes  Had never heard of it before.

Thanks for stopping in my friends, one for each of youBeer Beer (Andy if your gone to long I bet Carl will drink yours.....just sayin Whistling)

 

OK, have started laying down the different grays on the tender, hope to have some progress pics up soon?  Back to painting.................

Rob

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  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Monday, October 8, 2012 7:09 PM

looking great glad you didn't let that small disaster stop the build

Clint

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 8, 2012 10:39 PM

Rob , i am shocked ! I had no idea as to the depth of your talents ! No idea at all ...................making your own tools ! You are very talented indeed !Toast

I'm curiouse about the hot air machine .........what powers it ?

Toast

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