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  • Member since
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  • From: Manila Philippines
Posted by evo_lover on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:53 AM

Wow I am speachless on the detail!!!! I envy your workbench.....sigh

on th bench:1/35 Tamiya Tiran 5

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:57 AM

PANZERWAFFE

ANDY - Hey man!  Haven't seen you around lately......Glade you stopped in and thanks for the comments.  Nice to hear you like Yes

Thanks for stopping in my friends, one for each of youBeer Beer (Andy if your gone to long I bet Carl will drink yours.....just sayin Whistling)

LOL!  Looks like you are correct... Carl didn't save me some.  I don't mind because somebody has to drive him home. Wink  Things have been so hectic at home and work... several trips scheduled this fall.  You can always find me at Steel Cats GB where I am building my Tiger I Initial at very slow pace as usual.   At least I didn't start late like I always do. 

Will be checking on your updates when I have the chance. Beer

Andy

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:47 PM

Holy Smokes Rob ! Stick out tongue.... sorry for the long response, I was ' off grid'  awhile Devil . Your scratch built engines are so impressive I am at a loss for adjectives... the work and calculations that go into a ' running ' miniature engine, and casting  and milling and turning are just way too much for most to comprehend. Appreciate:yes, comprehend ? I am not so sure .  I had to read up on your Stirling cycle engine just to get brushed up !  I am in awe of your machinist ability !Bow Down  I love your lathe !... I too make special, albeit sometimes temporary tooling to do chores for me in the modeling world.  tools for cutting specific lengths and angle over and over and I have a simple jig that turns my DeWalt 1/2 " drill into a temporary lathe, 

As a teen I was able to build a 'double acting ' steam engine from brass and lead only but, sadly I could not make efficient seals and the piston leaked badly ,especially when steam was introduced on the side with the connecting rod...but it did run !Wink

Really tremendous work ,Rob and I am glad you went  'off-topic ' for a while Yeah

It was a true pleasure!Toast

tread Geeked (those are my geek glasses ... I wear them proudly )

   

 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:11 PM

Hey guys sorry for the long delay but have had some emergency medical issues that took priority and may continue to do so for some time.  Thanks for all of your responses Yes  Not sure when I will be able to check back in?

RAMBO - Yes will keep at her.

CARL - I should have added Embarrassed that my grandfather was a master carpenter and machinist with much patience, making a great teacher and always helpful.

The hot air engine (Stirling) is my favorite.  To keep things simple, it has a expansion cylinder which stays hot creating the powerstroke, pushing the piston and fly.  Some hot air expands down to the compression cylinder, which is were the air cools, helping push this piston along with the momentum of the fly.  This in turn both pushes the expansion piston back and then pushes the cooler air back to the expansion cylinder to be reheated.  The copper tube seen is what would be called a regenerator in which the air travels back and forth for heating and cooling.  So in short it runs by the means of the expansion of air.

The power or heat source can practically be anything.  In this model the black stoves have a door which would open and a candle would be placed in there to create the heat.

My grandfather would often tell me, when he was a kid that there were some of these engines on the farms.  They would both clear the lands, and put ordinary household trash in to burn to power them.

Hope this explains your question.

EVO_LOVER - Thanks buddy

ANDY - Just playing with you, always good to hear from you.  Have been watching all of your builds in Steel Cats Yes  Thanks for stopping in.

WILLIAM - Thanks.  Do you still have your steam engine, would be nice to see it?  Would imagine the material, brass, lead, would be the main culprit for the leakage and not so much the seals?  The cool thing about steam is that the engine will almost always run.  May not be as efficient but it will run.  The bad thing is the danger to the person of the possible unseen steam that's leaking.

Rob

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:30 PM

Rob Big Smile...

Get well soon my man ... health is THE most important thing. I wish you all the best for a speedy recovery.

No pics of my old steam engine sorry...,wish I had taken some .. the piston was very small. only 5/8 diameter I was only about 13 or so at the time ...Yikes 47 years ago Tongue Tied

get well man !Toast

treadCool

   

 

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:45 PM

Take care Rob, the lights will still be on for you here when you can get back! Beer

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:48 PM

Rob , thanks for the explanation .......

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:26 AM

Hope its not your wife again.  Hang in there and y'all will be in my thoughts.  Have you started saying "y'all" yet since you are in NC now?

Andy

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:25 PM

Take care buddy. Look forward to more progress when you have the time.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 29, 2012 9:02 AM

Thanks too all of you for your wishes and concerns.

Try to get back into things, still may be in and out though?

In my absence, my transfers had arrived.  Had ordered Archer BR 52 transfer set.

Painting of the Tender.  There will be more to come on this.

Flat black primer / base.  Sprayed Euro-1 Gray too the frame / wheels.

Gunship Gray for more shadow leaving some black.

Dark Gull Gray for what will be the last gray coat still leaving both the Gunship and balck showing through.

Set Tender aside to dry went back the interior.  Scratch the seat backs, painted and put in.

Scratch seat backs / seats installed

Interior with seats and both side walls permanent.  The rear bulkhead has also been permanently attached.

 

 

 

Rob

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, October 29, 2012 9:15 AM

Excellent work especially the seats and pre-shading!

Andy

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 29, 2012 10:54 AM

Never get tired of looking at this one Rob, very nice! Beer

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 29, 2012 12:47 PM

ANDY - Thanks buddy !  Good to hear from you again, more to come.

BILL - Glad you are not tired of seeing this one.  Me, have been enjoying this build but am tired of seeing it stagnant for so long on my bench.....time to get things moving again.

With that said, here is the PE that came with the kit.  There is not much but it looks and folds very nice.

4 pieces - two front visors and the 2 side ones.

The front visors dry fit in place

I should add that the kit supplied front windows were not used.  Did not like the fit and they were way thick.  Had cut new windows from some clear plastic sheet used for paper dividers found in the school / office supply sections of the store.

After shaping the PE, next came attaching the cab to the boiler and then the front visors.

Rob

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  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Monday, October 29, 2012 2:46 PM

Thats looking really sharp I really like your seat you made

Clint

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 29, 2012 6:50 PM

Hey Clint, thanks a bunch and good too hear you like.  Now go ahead and pull up that seat, more is on the way.

Some work on the frame was done to get it ready to attach to the boiler.  It was already painted with the flat black base / primer and next:

selected areas Euro Gray was applied

Then the same was done too the wheels.  This was one part that was nicer to do then doing the same on say...a panzer.

Work then went in the piston housings.  The color was built up the same way as with the tender: Flat black, Gunship Gray, Dark Gull Gray.  Then stripes were applied using Bill's Dunkelgelb mix (50% Dunkelgelb and 50% Light Gray).

Left housing

Right housing

Next up is to attach the boiler to the frame.

Rob

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:58 PM

Hey man this is what i will call " model builders eye candy " !!!!

I called Janis over to have a look and her words ....." Wow, cool " !!!

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, October 29, 2012 10:41 PM

Hey Carl, great to have you and the Mrs stop by Yes  Good to hear you both are enjoying the build and it's nice to have her check things out Yes  Has been a great day with some movie watching and lots of bench time.  This thing is finally starting to look like a locomotive. 

 

Next up was to prep the boiler / cab for attachment to the frame.  To do this, painted the bottom section of the cab flat black and then painted the whole assembly with Gunship Gray on it's mid section.

If anyone is wondering about the bonding strength of these large pieces, before painting had masked off the glue attachment points.  These can be seen here after the mask had been removed.

The fit of the two assemblies was very poor and took some time to get things together. Here they are now permanently as one.

Once this sat for a little while had then filled the gaps with putty, sanded, and brush painted the patches with flat black.  Then moved to the front section and installed the boiler step and framing for it.

The next update should be a bit more exciting, will finally have some color added.  See ya then.

Rob

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  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 29, 2012 11:33 PM

Looking cool man ..........Cool.........Yes

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  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:03 AM

PANZERWAFFE

...The next update should be a bit more exciting, will finally have some color added.  See ya then.

 
more exciting?!?
 
This thing is flaming AW-Some already.
 
 Really like the paint format you're using, keeps the shapes from being a big monochromatic blob .
 
  Looking forward to your next installment  

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:40 AM

Paint work and added details for the front of the boiler are looking sharp Rob! Look forward to seeing it with the camo pattern applied as I see you've already done a couple of 'trial run' zig-zags. Beer

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  • From: ohio
Posted by vonryan on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:40 PM

man it's been sometime since i've looked in, and i must say DAMN Rob you are going all out on this build VERY NICEYes awesome paint work. must look in sooner. if not i'll miss an great build.

 

Clay 

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    October 2009
Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:23 PM

CARL - Beer Always good to have you stop in

STEVE - Glad you like.  Was hoping to get the multiple shade look (dark - light) without a drastic color change.  I think it looks better here in person then on the computer.  Here can see the different shades much easier.  Have sprayed the last gray coat (you will see below) and may have done too much losing some of the effect I had wanted.  It is still there, just not as prevalent as before, and believe it will show more with the weathering.  Thanks for looking in.

BILL - Yep, the "trial run" believe went well so went ahead with the remainder of the "Zig-Zag's".  Thanks for always posting your Dunkelgelb color mix!!  That's what I have used and seeing it here in person....that's an EXCELLENT color!  Cant wait to paint a panzer with it.

CLAY - Thanks man.  Dont't worry about missing this build though.  Believe it will take quit a bit of time to weather it when I get to that stage.  There are so many small details I want to "pick out" and highlight / weather that I believe it will take at least twice as long as normal.  Still long way to go........

 

Moving along

Sprayed final gray coat, used Dark Gull Gray (maybe to much?)

Then came the fun task of masking.  Used WBILL Dunkelgelb mix (50% dunkelgelb and 50% Light Gray, both MM enamels) sprayed the stripes.

Mask removed Stick out tongue

The top stripe, the one going over the sand box,  had to be re-masked and adjusted.  This is the result of the correction.

Had then added the large scratch pipe and the remainder of all the linkage arms, 3 being scratch, 1 kit supplied.  These will show better later with additional paint / weathering.

Here is an overview of how things are coming out.

Things have slowed down again, need to paint and dry fit the front wind guides.  These will have the Zig-Zag patteren on them and the stripe will continue to the top of the boiler.  Once I have the wind guides done can figure out where the stripe on the boiler needs to be.  It is taking some time because of the long dry time of preping the wood color.  Gray will be sprayed on top of the wood but will have the paint worn with the wood showing through.  Will also be preping the tender for it's Zig-Zag's and will then weather it first to figure out how I'm going to do it for sure.

begining of wood

It's a long post but hope all enjoy.

 

Rob

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  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:44 PM

wow every time you post on here things just keep getting better and better

Clint

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:23 AM

Hey Clint, thanks for the comments and for stopping in Yes 

Still working on the Wind Guides.  Have the wood and framing painted.  The framing was painted in my mix that I call "German Primer".  Now will try to mask using masking fluid, paint the finish colors, then hopefully be able to remove the mask leaving the wood showing through.  Hope to post the results maybe tonight? 

Rob

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:28 AM

Finished the base coat for the wind guides.  Wood boards and primed framing.

Not sure if this will work but am going to try to mask some of the wood and then paint the gray color on top then hopefully remove the mask leaving some of the wood showing through?  These masking procedures usually do not work with enamel paints, which is what I am using, but have run a few test on some scrap and seem to have some positive results.  So will go ahead and commit with the plan.  This is what I will be using as a mask.

Rob

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27 PM

Glad to hear the paint mix combo worked out for your Rob, very nice job on the patterns! The wood finish you get is always stunning and the masking approach ought to work out as well, looking forward to that. On the issue of too much Gull Gray, I think you've gone just light enough to form the right foundation for weathering that's to come. Railroad engines were notoriously dirty beasts between all the grease and oil needed to keep them running and the soot from the engine exhaust, so it should tone down nicely once you get into that phase. Yes Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:00 PM

Bow Down..........Toast............Yes.........Pizza.............Beer

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:19 PM

BILL, CARL thanks guys Beer  Think your right with the shade of the Gull Gray, should work well once weathered.  Funny I spend so much time on the wood in this case because most of it will be painted over with the gray.  Have masked and painted the gray but have yet to remove the mask. Hope it has not set to long to remove it?

 

Last night had painted the stripes onto the Tender was just to tired to post the pics until now.

Don't think I'm up to doing anything tonight, very tired, maybe tomorrow.  See ya then

Rob

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, November 2, 2012 1:23 AM

Man that camo is eye catching..................Hmm................... that dont sound right does it ?

I think of the film of the P-47's and P-51's attacking the locomotives in WW II .

Looking great !Yes

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Friday, November 2, 2012 7:32 PM

Tender looks sweet Rob! The 'dazzle' effect is on full display, can imagine what it would be like trying to aim at one moving at 50-60 km/h while in an aircraft travelling at 300 mph or more in a strafing or rocket run!

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