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Tamiya Panzer II Ausf B - COMPLETE! (19.09.12)

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Posted by Hinksy on Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:11 PM

Hi guys,

I have to hand it to Bill, he's got on helluva site there! His site has been a MASSIVE help to me as he's built a lot of the builds I have and he always covers the stuff I have problems with! For example I was thinking about Friuls for my build but I think the kit link and lengths will be fine so I'll have a crack at assembling them on the build then removing them in one piece for painting. As Bill also mentioned the poly-cap fixed drives and idlers will permit easy removal and re-fitting.

I've got the basic assembly well underway as you'll see. I'd rather not use Friuls on this build so next weekend I'll try and get the link & lengths assembled and then once they have set I'll remove them for painting off the vehicle and for fitting later on.

 Some filler will be needed on these little gaps between the plates prior to painting: 

Off to a good start. A lovely kit!

If anyone can make a suggestion for the best shade of brown for this cammo scheme (in either Tamiya or Vallejo) then that would be great!

Cheers guys and have a good week!

Ben smile d

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:33 PM

Bill , i didnt realize you had your own site ...............looks great ! I'll start visiting it also . The Pz. II looks sharp . Weathering works real well on it . Thats cool having it in the magazine also !

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:24 AM

Ben,

The Dark Brown was applied over the Panzer Gray in a 1/3 disruptive pattern and there wasn't a set pattern as some vehicles were painted at the depots as they were produced when the scheme was in effect and others, like the Pz II, that had already been produced received the scheme in the field or when sent in for uparmoring or repairs. I've got the Polish Campaign Pz II kit from Tamiya on my site as a build log and you can see an example there of how I did the scheme for reference if it helps. www.bpmodels.net/.../viewtopic.php

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Posted by Hinksy on Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:55 AM

Hi folks,

Bish - check out the new site:

http://www.armour-models.co.uk/

Regards the paint scheme it was a thought that crossed my mind yesterday - early war Panzers in France? Grey and Brown was the common scheme and I made a mental note to make further enquiry when the time to prepare paint came closer.

I understand that the scheme is about 1/3rds Chocolate Brown and 2/3rds Panzer Grey. From what I've seen the Brown is quite faint and pokes through the Grey like a strong pre-shade?

I'm going to paint my Pz II like this as it's a scheme I haven't tried yet and would look right at home amongst my other early war Panzers.

Perhaps someone can provide a decent layout of the scheme for me to follow and also a recommendation for the corret shade of Brown paint i.e. Tamiya (XF-?) or a Vallejo shade would be extremely helpful.

I know you favour this scheme Bill so I'll have a look at your BP Models website and the link posted by Shellback, too.

I'm going to make a quick start now and will post a few photos later.

Thanks guys,

Ben Toast

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:43 AM

I will Ben. I just haven't needed any barrels for a while. It was only the other day i realised i didn't have one for the Pz II. I'm with Bill on the paint scheme, while the Pz Grey is an option, the two colour scheme would look much better and be more likely. He has convinced me of this over the couple of discussions on the subject.

I wondered what those PE parts were for as well. RB barrels don't come with any instructions, but usually its quite self explanatory.

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:30 PM

This is an ausf . F with the brown over gray that Bill mentioned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt5yMGKo_rQ

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:13 PM

Ben,

Carl's got you covered for the little PE bits...they are what locks the muzzle brake on the barrel end.

Don't trust the Tamiya markings guide to the letter...unlike other manufacturers, they are still holding to the straight panzer gray scheme when French campaign vehicles like the Pz II would most likely have had the two-tone scheme of 1/3 dark brown and 2/3 dark gray. While others (and I don't want to get into another debate here on the subject and distract from your build Smile ) think that panzer gray is also viable, you will have a much more visually interesting subject in the 2-tone scheme vs. what Tamiya indicates.

Look forward to seeing what you do with this one!

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:36 PM

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Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:49 PM

The new guy at Armour Models called Steve is a truly top bloke. I chatted with him at the Hinckley show. As soon as he toon over from Lou he reduced the price of Friuls by £5!

He know his stuff too - give him a try Bish.

Ben  

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:07 PM

I haven't used Armour Models since the new guy took over, so this will be a good excuse. I have a shed load of those antennas in my AM box as i am going to use them on all my builds. I think i will order those barrels next month.

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Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:47 PM

Hey Bish,

The RB options is ideal - although there is an antennae trough there is no antennae so the brass RB one is a good choide for only a pound if you hate stretching sprue like me!

I use Steve at Armour Models for my RB stuff and Friuls too. Google Armour Models if you don't use them already. His site is great.

Ben

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Posted by Styreneaddict on Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:15 PM

Looks like this will be one great build will be watching with interest ..... I'm right on the verge of the dark side ..... need guidance

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:06 PM

Looking forward to this build. I only realised the other week that i don't have an AM barrel for mine. Is the RB one upto its usual standard.

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Tamiya Panzer II Ausf B - COMPLETE! (19.09.12)
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:04 PM

Hi chaps,

As you probably know I've been working on and off on my Tamiya Jeep and I had to pop up the LHS yesterday to buy some 1/35 German and US Jerry Cans. Foolishly I took my wallet instead of a ten pound note so when I saw them re-stocking the shelves with a new delivery from Tamiya I saw they had in stock the newer Tamiya Panzer II depicting the early A/B/C versions I had to buy it. I say I foolishly took my wallet as I know every time I go there for paint or scalpel blades etc I usually end up buying a kit! This has been one I've been looking at for a while now and will be a perfect cabinet addition to sit between my Dragon Panzer IA and Tamiya Marder II. I'll be looking at the late version Dragon Panzer II as a future purchase too.

So, The Jeep is on hold again as I really wanted to build a German Kit. I've got Tigerman's much anticipated 'Steel Cats' GB starting in September for which I'll be building Dragons Late Version Tiger I with Zim. This Panzer II will make for a great little project to fill the time between now and early September when the GB starts. I could finish the Jeep but like I say I'm really looking forward to building another early War Panzer. The Jeep can wait a bit although I did once say I wouldn't ever be one oth those modellers who has several builds on the go at any one time! Whistling

The build: It's Tamiya's 2008 release of the Panzer II which depicts the A/B/C version. The kit looks really well laid out - no nasty ejector marks that are very visible but I'm sure I'll come across a few during assembly. PE is supplied for the Muffler heat guard which is a nice touch - Tamiya are obviously learning as their solid muffler actally has a hole in the end and won't need a pin vise taking to it. The barrel is okay and slide moulded so it's a one piece tube with a visible bore and the MG34 looks fine too but both are  bog standard all the same. I've replaced these with RB offerings which are very cheap and a real no-brainer when attempting to improve the looks of your kit so I'll be lopping off the plastic barrels, sticking the metal RB barrels on the plastic breeches as there is plenty to see and a seat for the gunner so the main hatch will be open exposing the turret detail contained withing. I'll be using the kit Link & Length tracks as they look fine and well detailed.

Apart from the new barrels I'll be adding an RB brass Antennae and will be doing away with the bulk of the kit tools and instead using Dragon tools from the spares tub and Dragon PE clamps - it will make a big difference. The kit tools aren't great, just 'suitable' and the Dragon tools are required to really improve the look! Overall, a lovely looking kit that is only let down by solid moulded headlights and not hollow headlight cases that can be painted silver inside and then clear lenses just dropped on top. I'll probably cover them up with tissue paper soaked in PVA & water to make it appear as if the crew have attempted to cover them with rags up in an attempt to black them out? Any suggestions chaps?

I'll be starting the build tomorrow - in the meantime here are some sprue shots etc showing this lovely little kit in greater detail:

Dragon Tools and PE Clamps:

 

Sprue shots and other box contents:

The moulded headlights without lenses (items 11 & 12):

Hull Tub and PE Fret/Decals:

Kit weaponry for the turret:

RB upgrades (20mm Pz II barrel, MG34 Barrel and Brass Antennae) - what is the little PE Fret with the 20mm cannon for?:

Turret guide on the instructions - a bit of extra detailing and painting will allow the main hatch to be left opened showing off the seat and gun breeches (I'm not sure about using the figure yet):

I'll be building this version (there are 4 choices). This is the box art version that depicts 6th Panzer Division, France, 1940 - this version also allows for use of the rear smoke candle rack:

Finally, I got several items through the post the other day and am really looking forward to trying this AK stuff out instead of Hairspray which it is intended to replace:

I hope you'll follow along on this one guys.

It certainly looks like an enjoyable build!

Thanks for looking - I'll provide a proper wip update tomorrow as I just haven't had time to get this build started properly today!

Take care,

Ben Yes

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