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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2013 5:06 PM

Ok I know of that Puebla (and Cinco de Mayo).  My father is from Monterrey, and my mother's family lived in Ensanada (her mother and aunts were born there) for awhile after leaving Germany and before coming to Los Angeles in the late 1800s. I have been there a few times, but not in many years.  Doesnt Mexico City have an IPMS Chapter? 90 miles is not close, but it is not too far...

 

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Posted by garzonh on Friday, September 27, 2013 4:36 PM

Stikpusher,

I'm from Puebla, 90 miles south of Mexico City.

Probably, best know for the battle of 5 de mayo, which took place here.

Large city, 4th largest, 3 million people, but not big enough for  having clubs...

Thanks for the advice.

Yes, Mexico is muuuuch more than Tijuana.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2013 4:08 PM

Once you show up and see the stuff Jim, you see some builds and think to yourself, "I can do better than that"... it all starts there and then.

 

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Posted by JimNTENN on Friday, September 27, 2013 12:25 PM

Stikpusher, entering my work in a show or contest just for display would definitely interest me. It would even be nice to win something in competition but I believe it would be more rewarding, for me, just to get to show my work. I'll start looking for some clubs or shows/contests that I could travel to and from in a day.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2013 12:02 PM

What part of Mexico are you located in Garzon? There are some modelers from the Tijuana area who have formed a club down there- Secret Society of Model Builders that has members from the Tijuana and San Diego areas. A few of them come up to our AMPS chapter meetings every so often near Los Angeles.They have a contest coming up (AMPS style judging) in San Diego in December or Januaury. Good bunch of guys. Yes I know Mexico is a big place and that area is only one small corner...

 

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Posted by garzonh on Friday, September 27, 2013 11:04 AM

Stikpusher.

Trust me, it is an obscure art in Mexico, not to mention contests.

So I agree, since you have a lot more chances for expos, contests, forum, visti them and learn from other builders and also have fun, just having the opportunity to see 200 to 300 models, you will be able to compare you skills.

And why not?, lots of shopping in one single site.

Have a great day!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2013 11:03 AM

Garzon, according to that map, Europe is Temperate Deciduous Forest, not Tropical Rain Forest.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2013 10:57 AM

Jim, I would highly encourage you to look online to see where the nearest model club is and travel there for a few meetings. Even if you never enter a contest, interaction face to face with other modelers (especially those that do build those winning builds) will help you improve your own builds. It did for me quite a bit. As far as contests themselves go, there are the IPMS type judging, which although it has hard set standards, in the end can be quite subjective becuase there is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in any category. Period. No matter how good all the builds are. And then there is the AMPS style judging in which kits are judged against criteria only  for  gold, silver, or bronze awards and potentially all kits in a given catagory can win gold- if they meet the criteria. Conversely, none can as well if they do not meet the criteria. And some contests have a "display only" catagory, where builds are entered strictly for that, and not for competition judging.

 

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Posted by JimNTENN on Friday, September 27, 2013 7:58 AM

Wow, plasticjunkie. That blows my mind. I've entered only one model contest in my life, back when I was a kid. It was at the local Walmart, believe it or not. That was before there were Super Walmarts. I've often thought about entering more contests except that there are none that I know of where I live or the surrounding area. And I don't travel. I'd love to be able to build models as good as the guys who win those contests but I don't think I'd ever want to enter any. Competition is okay I guess but that kind of judging just seems like it would detract from the enjoyment of the hobby, for me, anyway. But, each to his own. Thanks for the comment.

Jim

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Posted by the doog on Friday, September 27, 2013 7:51 AM

That WAS a great post, garzohn! Very informative!

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, September 27, 2013 7:34 AM

the doog

Jim,

I should have added---just in case you think anyone is too "nitpicky" about the red clay color.....in AMPS judging, they'll actually "ding" you for dirt color if it's not appropro for the specific theater of war. Yeah, kinda "nitpicky", I know, Whistling but just so you understand why it bore mentioning at all. Wink

 

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Posted by JimNTENN on Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:26 PM

Hey, thanks for the soil study. That was helpful and interesting, garzonh.

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Posted by garzonh on Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:36 AM

I'm no soil expert, but lets try to get a scientifical approach to this:

  1. Tiger tanks were used in France, Poland, Hungary, Belgium.
  2. The red/orange color is realted to iron on the soil, basically rusting creating the color.
  3. From Encyclopedia of Earth: "Soils of the humid tropics are generally red or yellow because of the oxidation of iron or aluminum, respectively"
  4. If we review what Biome Europe is:
  Europe is "Tropical Rain Forest", so conditions are possible.
  1. So we need two conditions, iron or aluminum in the soil and humid weather to oxide it.
  2. This will turn the soil to be very acid. And I mean battery acid.
 Acrisols are similar to the Red-Yellow Podzolic soil of Indonesia, Red and Yellow Earths and are related to several subgroups of Alfisols and Ultisols (Soil Taxonomy).

So, where do we have acrisol soil in Europe?

According to FAO:

"They are most extensive in Southeast Asia, the southern fringes of the Amazon Basin, the southeastern USA and in both east and west Africa."
From this webpage: http://eusoils.jrc.ec.europa.eu/projects/soil_atlas/pages/28.html we can see the type of soils in Europe. So, yes, Acrisols are very rare in Europe, only some small part of southwest Spain.
Sorry I made this thread a soil study, BUT I think it is very useful for all the other guys who want to know what type of soil to put on their tanks, related to their theater of operation.
BUT HEY, your tank still looks amazing!!. I wont change it a bit.
See ya.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:55 PM

Thanks for the photo, cb1. That will help with future builds.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:37 PM

Thanks, garzonh. So, what about the dirt? Still too orange or does it look okay?

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Posted by garzonh on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:32 PM

I knew it.

Trust me, for high quality photographs never use direct sun light.

As you did, only at dawn, dusk, cloudy or interior of the house.

Now we can all appreciate the great details and painting.

Awesome!!

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Posted by JimNTENN on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:35 PM

Here are some photos taken on a cloudy day. Everything looks a bit better.

We learn by doing.

Jim

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:07 PM

well the orangy could be from the camera shot. ever notice how rust looks redder in some photographs? and it could be. there are traing areas in the BRD that will turn tanks almost pink after a week. at that point one either uses artistic licenses or has a color phoitograph to justify it.

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Posted by Geezer on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:46 AM

Very well done. Yeah, the mud is a bit "orangy", but the application is spot on. The rest looks mighty fine to me as well. Bravo.

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Posted by cb1 on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:01 AM

here is a shot of German mud... in the training area we called "area mud" LOL

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, September 23, 2013 5:06 PM

Thank you, bitbite. Getting the right look for the black leather coat was frustrating. It could be better.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, September 23, 2013 4:37 PM

Tankster

, its alot like the red-orange clay we have here in the South. 

OOh, yes, like in Augusta and Aiken, SC... I think is the most orangish Ive seen...

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Posted by bitbite on Monday, September 23, 2013 4:17 PM

"I'm not that great at doing figures."

Nonsense, I say!  The figure may be a little clean but other than that it looks pretty damn good.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, September 23, 2013 3:54 PM

I don't want all my armor models to be muddy but I will probably muddy the next one so I can get the color right. I agree that the figure should be a little dirty. I'm not that great at doing figures. Definitely need more work there. The next time I take pictures I'll try a different time of day or different location so the sunlight isn't direct.

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, September 23, 2013 1:01 PM

I'm seriously jealous right about now.Well done.

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Posted by Tankster on Monday, September 23, 2013 12:45 PM

You did a good job on th epainting, but I'd concur that the dirt looks too orange, its alot like the red-orange clay we have here in the South.  I'd say airbrush over it with some dark brown and khaki colors to balance it out some.  But the ambush camo scheme looks good tho, I have the same kit in my stash so I'll get to it eventually.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, September 23, 2013 12:12 PM

I really like it! That TC figure came out very nice as well! I dont think the sunlight looks bad at all. After all that is the real deal. I thin the only drawback of the sunlight is no control over the shadows- Mr Sol does it his way. As far as the mud tone goes, yes, Euro mud is lighter and grayer when dry. That other mud color you have under the red clay stuff would work for your next muddies Panzer build.

 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM

Jim,

I should have added---just in case you think anyone is too "nitpicky" about the red clay color.....in AMPS judging, they'll actually "ding" you for dirt color if it's not appropro for the specific theater of war. Yeah, kinda "nitpicky", I know, Whistling but just so you understand why it bore mentioning at all. Wink

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, September 23, 2013 7:27 AM

Great man!

The mud and dust looks very nice, the cammo and rusting look perfect.

I would also only suggest, the commander be a little bit more dirty. Looks to clean, specially since he would have to climb on all that mud and dust.

As "the doog" commented I think direct sun light is too bright!, some of top model photoraphers tend to take pictures at dawn or dusk, light is softer and not so direct...gives natural, cool light.

Other than that, great kit!

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