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Tamiya's 1/35 German King Tiger

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Tamiya's 1/35 German King Tiger
Posted by JimNTENN on Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:46 PM

Here are some photos of the King Tiger I finished in February. Built straight out of the box I did add an aftermarket aluminum gun barrel. I took the photos on my front porch. It's the only good place I have to photograph my models plus I like the natural light.

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Posted by DUSTER on Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:48 PM

Nice work the mud/weathering is first rate.

Boy, just noticed those King Tiger trends really chew up a guys porch paint...   

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Posted by JimNTENN on Sunday, September 22, 2013 5:04 PM

Hahaha! Yeah, those Tigers had big tracks. And thanks for the compliment. I enjoy doing armor. I always like mine to be dirty or at least well weathered if not battle damaged. War is never pretty or clean so the weapons of war shouldn't be either in my opinion. I think the mud really did the trick. It's only the second time I've tried doing mud on a tank. I think it came out pretty good.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:22 PM

Well, the sun kinda washes out your colors a bit---might want to try color-correcting them in a photo program next time?--but the model looks really nicely done. Really nice figure, too.

The mud itself is excellently done as well, although if I had to nitpick, it's a bit "red clay" for Europe--but I realize that that may be the effect of the sun's lighting?

Well done, overall. :)

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Posted by Eagle90 on Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:37 PM

Jim, I have to reiterate the kudos on the mud/weathering!  Great job!  

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Posted by cb1 on Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:14 PM

the mud is perfect! I don't know what it looks like in person, but the mud color is a little orange For Europe. Besides that, you get a gold star!!!!!!

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, September 23, 2013 6:52 AM

Thanks everyone for the comments. I think the camouflage colors are a little bold. They need to be toned down a little. Other than the sun giving all the colors a warm tone that's pretty much what the model looks like. So, yeah the color of the mud looks a little like red clay. I didn't know what color to use for Europe so I guess I used the color of dirt I was most familiar with here in East Tennessee...red clay. I always aim to try some new technique on each model no matter how minute it may seem. I can count the armor and military models....not including aircraft....that I've built on both hands so I have a lot of learning to do to be able to build an historically accurate model.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, September 23, 2013 6:59 AM

I think the part that looks the best and the most realistic is the rusty exhaust.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, September 23, 2013 7:27 AM

Great man!

The mud and dust looks very nice, the cammo and rusting look perfect.

I would also only suggest, the commander be a little bit more dirty. Looks to clean, specially since he would have to climb on all that mud and dust.

As "the doog" commented I think direct sun light is too bright!, some of top model photoraphers tend to take pictures at dawn or dusk, light is softer and not so direct...gives natural, cool light.

Other than that, great kit!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM

Jim,

I should have added---just in case you think anyone is too "nitpicky" about the red clay color.....in AMPS judging, they'll actually "ding" you for dirt color if it's not appropro for the specific theater of war. Yeah, kinda "nitpicky", I know, Whistling but just so you understand why it bore mentioning at all. Wink

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, September 23, 2013 12:12 PM

I really like it! That TC figure came out very nice as well! I dont think the sunlight looks bad at all. After all that is the real deal. I thin the only drawback of the sunlight is no control over the shadows- Mr Sol does it his way. As far as the mud tone goes, yes, Euro mud is lighter and grayer when dry. That other mud color you have under the red clay stuff would work for your next muddies Panzer build.

 

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Posted by Tankster on Monday, September 23, 2013 12:45 PM

You did a good job on th epainting, but I'd concur that the dirt looks too orange, its alot like the red-orange clay we have here in the South.  I'd say airbrush over it with some dark brown and khaki colors to balance it out some.  But the ambush camo scheme looks good tho, I have the same kit in my stash so I'll get to it eventually.

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, September 23, 2013 1:01 PM

I'm seriously jealous right about now.Well done.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, September 23, 2013 3:54 PM

I don't want all my armor models to be muddy but I will probably muddy the next one so I can get the color right. I agree that the figure should be a little dirty. I'm not that great at doing figures. Definitely need more work there. The next time I take pictures I'll try a different time of day or different location so the sunlight isn't direct.

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Posted by bitbite on Monday, September 23, 2013 4:17 PM

"I'm not that great at doing figures."

Nonsense, I say!  The figure may be a little clean but other than that it looks pretty damn good.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, September 23, 2013 4:37 PM

Tankster

, its alot like the red-orange clay we have here in the South. 

OOh, yes, like in Augusta and Aiken, SC... I think is the most orangish Ive seen...

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, September 23, 2013 5:06 PM

Thank you, bitbite. Getting the right look for the black leather coat was frustrating. It could be better.

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Posted by cb1 on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:01 AM

here is a shot of German mud... in the training area we called "area mud" LOL

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Posted by Geezer on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:46 AM

Very well done. Yeah, the mud is a bit "orangy", but the application is spot on. The rest looks mighty fine to me as well. Bravo.

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:07 PM

well the orangy could be from the camera shot. ever notice how rust looks redder in some photographs? and it could be. there are traing areas in the BRD that will turn tanks almost pink after a week. at that point one either uses artistic licenses or has a color phoitograph to justify it.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:35 PM

Here are some photos taken on a cloudy day. Everything looks a bit better.

We learn by doing.

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Posted by garzonh on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:32 PM

I knew it.

Trust me, for high quality photographs never use direct sun light.

As you did, only at dawn, dusk, cloudy or interior of the house.

Now we can all appreciate the great details and painting.

Awesome!!

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Posted by JimNTENN on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:37 PM

Thanks, garzonh. So, what about the dirt? Still too orange or does it look okay?

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Posted by JimNTENN on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:55 PM

Thanks for the photo, cb1. That will help with future builds.

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Posted by garzonh on Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:36 AM

I'm no soil expert, but lets try to get a scientifical approach to this:

  1. Tiger tanks were used in France, Poland, Hungary, Belgium.
  2. The red/orange color is realted to iron on the soil, basically rusting creating the color.
  3. From Encyclopedia of Earth: "Soils of the humid tropics are generally red or yellow because of the oxidation of iron or aluminum, respectively"
  4. If we review what Biome Europe is:
  Europe is "Tropical Rain Forest", so conditions are possible.
  1. So we need two conditions, iron or aluminum in the soil and humid weather to oxide it.
  2. This will turn the soil to be very acid. And I mean battery acid.
 Acrisols are similar to the Red-Yellow Podzolic soil of Indonesia, Red and Yellow Earths and are related to several subgroups of Alfisols and Ultisols (Soil Taxonomy).

So, where do we have acrisol soil in Europe?

According to FAO:

"They are most extensive in Southeast Asia, the southern fringes of the Amazon Basin, the southeastern USA and in both east and west Africa."
From this webpage: http://eusoils.jrc.ec.europa.eu/projects/soil_atlas/pages/28.html we can see the type of soils in Europe. So, yes, Acrisols are very rare in Europe, only some small part of southwest Spain.
Sorry I made this thread a soil study, BUT I think it is very useful for all the other guys who want to know what type of soil to put on their tanks, related to their theater of operation.
BUT HEY, your tank still looks amazing!!. I wont change it a bit.
See ya.

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Posted by JimNTENN on Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:26 PM

Hey, thanks for the soil study. That was helpful and interesting, garzonh.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, September 27, 2013 7:34 AM

the doog

Jim,

I should have added---just in case you think anyone is too "nitpicky" about the red clay color.....in AMPS judging, they'll actually "ding" you for dirt color if it's not appropro for the specific theater of war. Yeah, kinda "nitpicky", I know, Whistling but just so you understand why it bore mentioning at all. Wink

 

I entered some models in a South Carolina AMPS contest not long ago and I was amazed how 3 judges can spend over an hour on each model with rulers, lights and magnifiers inspecting for accuracy and realism down to how the dirt buildup carries up on to the model!

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Posted by the doog on Friday, September 27, 2013 7:51 AM

That WAS a great post, garzohn! Very informative!

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Posted by JimNTENN on Friday, September 27, 2013 7:58 AM

Wow, plasticjunkie. That blows my mind. I've entered only one model contest in my life, back when I was a kid. It was at the local Walmart, believe it or not. That was before there were Super Walmarts. I've often thought about entering more contests except that there are none that I know of where I live or the surrounding area. And I don't travel. I'd love to be able to build models as good as the guys who win those contests but I don't think I'd ever want to enter any. Competition is okay I guess but that kind of judging just seems like it would detract from the enjoyment of the hobby, for me, anyway. But, each to his own. Thanks for the comment.

Jim

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2013 10:57 AM

Jim, I would highly encourage you to look online to see where the nearest model club is and travel there for a few meetings. Even if you never enter a contest, interaction face to face with other modelers (especially those that do build those winning builds) will help you improve your own builds. It did for me quite a bit. As far as contests themselves go, there are the IPMS type judging, which although it has hard set standards, in the end can be quite subjective becuase there is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in any category. Period. No matter how good all the builds are. And then there is the AMPS style judging in which kits are judged against criteria only  for  gold, silver, or bronze awards and potentially all kits in a given catagory can win gold- if they meet the criteria. Conversely, none can as well if they do not meet the criteria. And some contests have a "display only" catagory, where builds are entered strictly for that, and not for competition judging.

 

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