No worries Clemens. I have my fingers in enough pies already...

I thought about adding modern TDs to the GB for some time now and I decided to leave them out. I think there are so many vehicles to choose from already that allowing those as well makes the theme of the GB too big. If you're all against that decision, please let me know, but I think it's better this way...

Don't forget the Hungrian SPG's that are out now

Clemens, here's the link to the original Hunters GB from way back in 2008!  Maybe you can find some useful ideas for yours!  BTW, Eric (tigerman) also hosted that GB....it was a good one!

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/90481.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

Ye, don't know why I said rockets. As an ex wire guided warrior, I should know better.

ATGMs to be exact. Anti Tank Guided Missiles. Modern tank killers.

They are rockets that are designed to take out armour. Its just a missile instead of a gun.

Personally, I would say yes.

I'm not sure if I want post WW2 vehicles in here... In case I allow them, all vehicles with actual guns are allowed, but I'm not too sure about those armed only with rockets... What do you think?

How about modern/post WWII  AT vehicles like these?

I added a list of all the german vehicles I know to the front page

Bish: Thanks mate!

Jack: I didn't forget about the Italian vehicles, but I won't make a badge unless someone decides to build one and wants to have an Italian badge as well...

Great work on the badges SS, the simple ones are often the best.

Don't forget about the Italians, here's a couple of the better known ones :

Semovente 47/32

Semovente 90/53

regards,

Jack

Jibber: I already announced that I'd try to do that, but I need some help from you guys. There is no way i know all vehicles that fit in here...

Many Thanks! I think I'll use a pic of an SU-100 with russian-looking letters and a star in the lower left corner...

SS, could put up a short list of acceptable vehicles, I think it would eliminate a few questions and save you some headaches.  

AWESOME!  I like them a lot Clemens!  Great job.  What are you going to use for the Russian one?  Still not sure which one I'm going to commit to yet.  Heck,  I may do 2!  Thanks for running the GB Clemens.  This will be a good one!

Eagle90

Please keep in mind that they are only the badge prototypes and the final badges will be scaled down a lot (working on big pictures is just way easier...)

I managed to create 2 badges, but I'm not sure if you like them or not:

Bish came up with the idea to make one for each nation: Germany, Russia, America. I know there are other countries than those 3 but I'll only make a badge for them if someone actually builds a vehicle with that nationality...

Here's the German badge:

I decided to go with a Hetzer instead of the allmighty Jagdpanther because I think the latter is completely overused for badge designs. The font is meant to resemble the font used by the germans in WW2.

I also made a German Badge in German. It says "Jäger" Instead of "Hunters" which is basically the exact same thing. Being a German native speaker has its advantages, eh?

And here's another badge. The American one!

So what do you think? Are they good enough? They are designed in layers, so I can change the photos in the background at any time if you don't like them...

I think I can get in with Dragon #6689 Pz.Kpfw.IV L/70(A).The long time frame will allow me to start later in the year after I clear up some other builds.

I'd agree with Bish, the Firefly is a tank, an assault gun with a long gun is a tank killer.

It does bring up though stuff like the SU-152 'Animal Killer' (I love that name!) which was designed as an anti-infantry assault gun but when it was discovered that 152mm HE could rip the turret clean off a Panther or Tiger ended up being used as a tank killer too. Or Japanese SPGs that since they were the only AFVs with 75mm guns got pressed into service as tank destroyers.  

Just here to muddy the waters still further!

PS: The more I think about it I agree with the rule of using vehicles purposely designed to hunt tanks rather than just is pressed into service because nothing better  is available so both examples above would be ruled out.  

As far as the StuG goes I would include the long barrelled versions but not the short ones. I believe that whats they did in the first Hunter's GB and I think its a good idea.

As for the Firefly, most tanks are designed to destroy tanks, and so their gun is an AT gun, whether it be designed just for that vehicle or devolved from an towed AT gun. So personally, I would say no to the Firefly.

I thought about posting a list of all the vehicles allowed in this GB. I'd need your help with that one though...

We have to decide on some special cases as well:

The Sherman firefly was designed to destroy enemy tanks and used an AT gun for this job. Do you think we should put it on the list as well?

It's a similar thing with the StuGs. The early StuG-IIIs were designed as a self propelled infantry support gun, but later versions were upgraded with an AT gun and used to destroy tanks. Should all the StuGs be allowed here, or just the late versions (F and G) or should we leave all of them off the list?

There are several vehicles like that, so I need your help with that decision as well...

I'll see what I can come up with. I have done a few but they are all pretty basic at the moment, unless someone else is able to produce something better.

So "Hunters II" it is? I can still change the title if you guys want, but I'll post it like that in the calendar. The only thing that needs to be done is to create a badge. I'll try to make one, but I'm not very good at that stuff. Anyone willing to help me out?

That one sounds good, mate!

Ernest: No worries about those 20% everything up to 50% done is allowed! My Hetzer is at 30% now, but I have to fix a lot of mistakes I made back then, so it will take some extra time to get everything to look alright...

Ernst brings up a good suggestion. How about Hunter's II for a title.

pyrman64

Would any of the E--series of paper JagdPanzers qualify?  If so, I'm in.

I'd forgotten I had the E Series ones in the stash. Which kit are you planning to build.

Cliff: The title sounds good, but as you said already: It's only referring to the American TDs...

Greg: Yep, paper tanks are allowed as well!

Jibber: Nice to have you in here!