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Posted by Bish on Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:11 AM

I didn't know all that about the Jumbo, was it just bolted on extra armour or was it a completely new design. Great info again guys.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:53 PM

blackdog62

You always here about how SHERMAN wasn't a threat to the Landers  but those jumbo SHERMAN look deadly with the long barrels are they 76mm. ?

Yes, in 1945, some Jumbo's were up gunned with the 76mm gun used on other versions of the M4 family, by ordnance workshops. When coupled with the 76mm "hyper shot" round (Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot), it was positively the most lethal US tank in the ETO until the Pershing debuted. It had the armor to shrug off the majority of the German weapons in use except at point blank range.   Even the dreaded 88 needed a lucky hit such as thru a sight aperture to penetrate the frontal armor at standard combat ranges. A few Jumbos even had their bow MG replaced with a flame thrower to take out pillboxes and other similar fortifications.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:19 PM

Gee whiz guys, I'd been thinking of tossing in a Tasca/Asuka M4A3E2 'Jumbo' Sherman... great minds think alike maybe? Can you have too many Jumbos???

Since we're going a year I might go with a Dragon Panther Ersatz M10 as well, will have to see how it goes...

Blackdog: The Jumbo came from the factory with a 75mm but some did get rearmed with a 76mm from field maintenance shops near the front lines. It was one of the few Anglo-American tanks that could take a direct hit from an 88mm without  penetration.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:52 PM

Sorry I ment to say a threat to the panzers.

Is there a way to edit are post after posting  them.   ?

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:49 PM

You always here about how SHERMAN wasn't a threat to the Landers  but those jumbo SHERMAN look deadly with the long barrels are they 76mm. ?

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:57 PM

Stik, that Jumbo will build really nice.

SS, the King Tiger or Panther w/ Zim are real beasts and the E8 from Tasca is hard to beat.

One of these days I'll get to a Tasca A4 just to try those resin bogies, but I just can't get away from the GB's.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58 PM

I am gonna do a Sherman Jumbo using the Tamiya kit  and some various upgrades: new barrel, tracks, tranny cover, roadwheels... Based off of this photo of 3rd Armored Division in Koln

 

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:44 PM

Bish here they are:

Dragon Firefly 1c in 1/35

Dragon Stu.Pz IV Brummbar in 1/35

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:42 PM

Ooh a Firefly AND a Brummbär? Two very nice looking vehicles!

I still have to decide on what I want to build... Here's what I could see myself building for this one:

  • M4A3E8 (old Dragon)
  • M4A3E8 (Tasca)
  • M4A3 105mm w/ HVSS suspension (Dragon)

 

  • King Tiger Henschel (Tamiya)
  • King Tiger Henschel (Dragon)
  • King tiger Porsche w/ Zimmerit (Dragon)
  • Pz. IV Ausf.J (Dragon)
  • Panther w/ Zimmerit (Dragon)

I'll just let you decide on what tanks I'm going to build Wink Only one pick each for Axis and Allies though...

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:59 PM

No worries. Just give us the kit details, and we can add you to the rosters. If anyone else wants to put in their builds before we put the threads up, just post them here.

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:57 PM

Bish, can you sign me up for a Firefly and a Brummbar.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:15 PM

BD, sounds like your going to be busy.

Stik, I try my best. Smile

Bob, careful, you might get hooked.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:19 PM

This looks like it would be fun.  I have several kits in my stash that I could use...but how to narrow it down...

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:30 PM

Bish you just keep making offers that I can't refuse in GBs...

 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:11 PM

BISH.      Both builds would be 1/35

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:10 PM

BISH     looks like I can fit the time bracket so count me in. At this point I'm thinking DRAGON M4 SHERMAN WITH 60 pound rockets and TAMIYA MID WAR TIGER 1.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:43 PM

Just been finalising a few things with eagle. The GB threads for this will be going up this weekend.

For those who may be interested but are involved in any of the 3 other armour GB's, keep in mind that this one will run until May of next year, so plenty of time for all the heavy metal.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:58 AM

Will be good to have you RB, looks like we will have a nice balance between the two GB';s.

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:37 AM

I've got about 19 Shermans in the stash and a couple of Pershings, Sounds like something I'd be interested in, plus I've been without a Sherman build in progress for a couple of months now, and I've been wanting to do the Hobbyboss Super Pershing in the stash. Hmmm....

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 6, 2014 4:06 PM

I think it will be a while before I forget that.

Nice to see another GB addict on board, plenty of time for this one though wayne.

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, January 5, 2014 2:25 PM

i remember that bish

FINE another GB. ok i will build the perless max CHEVY 15CWT 4x4 in canadian markings here instead of 1944. if gunner chris does another canadian GB i will do modern HUSKY 6x6 arv.and i will do something else for the 1944. not like i don't have a lot of choices.

oh and i too have a tamiya late model PZ-IV. always liked them

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:43 PM

O, I know that feeling Ernest. There's been a couple of times I have put build progress in the wrong GB. Once in a GB I wasn't even in.

I blame it on all the glue and paint fumes.

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:27 PM

DOH! Dunce  I THOUGHT I was bouncing back and forth between this forum and the GB forum, but it turns out I had two pages with the Armor forum on it!  What I saw was actually this same thread.....oops!

As for the Pershing.....I really do need more U.S. armor on my shelf and I've already got a couple of Shermans there, so the Pershing would be a great choice as I already have the kit in the stash!

Ernest

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:18 PM

Now that would be nice Ernest.

Which thread have you just seen?

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:17 PM

I know it's still early days, but I think we have enough interest to make this a go.

I know a few guys are like myself and build mainly if not solely German armour, but there have been a couple who have said they would go for both and a few others that I know occasionally build Allied stuff. so I think its looking good.

So I think we can safely say start planning your builds.

Decisions decisions.

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:12 PM

Bish

No worries Ernst. Still want to see that build at some point.

You and me both Bish!!

I just saw the thread in the GB forum!  I'll think about what I want to do and post it.  I'm thinking something late war....perhaps a T-26 Pershing?

Ernest

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:08 PM

No worries Ernst. Still want to see that build at some point.

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:50 PM

Hey Bish, count me in!  I've wanted to do a couple of builds that will be perfect for this GB!  Plus I owe you for not working on that Neubaufahrzeug for your Gift GB!  Embarrassed

Ernest

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Posted by JimNTENN on Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:19 AM

I should be able to do 2 without much trouble. I don't think the Marder will be as involved as the Pz IV. Anyway, I have plenty of time to make up my mind about that.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:07 AM

Well, depends on your build speed Jim. 2 armoured kits in a years isn't to bad, of course, also depends on what else you have on. I need to try and get two armoured kits done by June, that after i finish an 88. That Pz IV kit seems popular. One is being built in the 44 GB, and i might be adding mine to either one as well yet, still not decided for either GB.

David, thanks for ther support. Looks like we have enough intertest to make this a go.

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