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  • Member since
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  • From: Capon Bridge West by God Virginia
Posted by feldgrau23 on Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:47 AM
Karl the a1 is looking good. You nailed number two on my list perfectly. With the few pics i have of the a1 i think Tamiya would have been better served had they not molded the turret the way they did. I noticed the same thing you did.
I oppted to do a minimal clean up. Mainly because you Wont see much of the back side off the wheels any how. Looking forward to seeing more pics.
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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:05 AM

Karl: Very cool work there on improving the sighting port shield arms (or whatever you call them!) and the mantlet cover- nice to see an already decent kit turned into something way better!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:51 PM

That fabric cover really came out well.

Maybe there's a chance for you pros to do a "Tamiya: purse from a sow's ear" GB some time. I would love to watch it. Quite a few builds lately that start with "I filled in the motor holes".

I lost my armor cherry with the old Tamiya Sd.Kfz 7. But, damn, it ran and I still have it.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:35 PM

Hey guys, thanks for all the nice comments, and Rich, thanks for that "to do" list. I hope I"m doing it proud on this update..!

Well I've been working away on the Leopard 1. Wow, what an ancient kit! It really shows its age! I can't believe I built two of these in the past "as is"!

The first step is to seal all the motorization holes. Quite a bit of work here.

The barrel being glued;

The wheels. Most newbs wouldn't even think of doing anything with these, but notice how they have flash and some weird, "sharp" edges? I decided to take each one, sand the edges, and use an Exacto knife to "round" the edges a bit. It really improved the look of them. Before:

After:

Next: these projections for the binocular targeting optics on the sides. They are protected and "closed" by something that looks like a side mirror; the problem is that they are rather thick and gnarly. Plus they don't actually attach as they should, especially the articulating arms to open the shields. I decided I could d something cool here...

Here's what they're supposed to look like. Note how dainty they are. Note also the missing lifting lugs on the turret sides in front of them?

First step: cut off the huge arms..

Another good pic of them..

...from my excellent Bundeswehr research library! Stick out tongue

So....at this point, after wondering how I'm going to replicate those lifting lugs, I decided to raid another old favorite kit for parts. I actually have two of these; the other kit is the Testor's kit, and is actually a far better kit, so this sacrifice won't be too hard. WIth this decision, I have opened up a whole wealth of possibilities.

The first thing I did was glue on the parts for the scopes, and blend them into the turret with putty.You'll also note that I removed the molded-on searchlight cable, and re-stippled the turret surface to match the armor texture. 

Next, I checked the putty sanding by painting the parts to see if you could tell there was a join there..also note that I've put in periscopes in the holes there.

Here is the finished articulating arms, the lifting pintles, the periscopes, and a template for the coming mantlet cover...

These "bars" have been put on because the mantlet cover has these kind of "lines" of sort under the fabric.

HHere, the mantlet cover has been covered in tissue, and the smoke dischargers from the Leo 1A4 stolen for the better molding. Note also that the barrel has had a "Lip" of sort put on the front. This is barely visible in many photos, but is undoubtedly there.

Some  of the texturing on the mantlet cover. Not done yet--I have to add wire on the outside of it and details around the edges.

The other thing I decided is to use the Leopard 1A4 wheels, as they're far better in molding; less chunky and primitive looking. The lighter green ones are the original Leo 1 wheels.

Pretty happy with how this is coming along. I willl also be using the MUCH-better tools from the A4, and possibly some other parts. The tracks, interestingly, are about an inch longer, but look pretty much the same, but with blocks instead of chevrons. Depending on my references, I may have to monkey with them...

That's all for now, guys! Thanks for looking in and commenting!!! Toast Big Smile

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, May 18, 2015 8:55 PM

Great job so far Karl, can't wait to see the other built up and paint put on plastic.

-Josiah

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  • From: Capon Bridge West by God Virginia
Posted by feldgrau23 on Monday, May 18, 2015 1:39 PM
Ok Karl I dont have a link but i can tell you the things i found that could be improved or could use some work to look better.
1) The smoke dischargers on the side of the turret could really be better. I should have scrounged my parts bin for better replacements.

2) The next would be the two parts that attach to the front sides of the turret. All the pics i have seen those pieces should be blended into the turret. I have contemplated using putty to blend them in.

3) The next would be the mirrors. They are awful. I still have yet to figure out a way to make them look like the pics i have scene.

Well those are the major things i found. My apoliges for no pics. I will get them to you shortly if you still want them. Didn't want you thinking i forgot you.

Rich.
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Posted by SprueOne on Monday, May 18, 2015 10:36 AM

Hey Doog,

I love the resurrection of old kits buildses WIPs (ah grammar?) And it's a Twofer' !

Those tiny added PE will make a great improvement to the tank. 

Gamera

Very sinister in all black!

hah, So True

Anyone with a good car don't need to be justified - Hazel Motes

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:46 PM

Just wandering why did the Germans built this tank with vertical armor. Wouldn't sloped walls make more sense, a la T-34? Or is there some advantage to verticals?

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Posted by RBaer on Saturday, May 16, 2015 8:43 PM

Carlos, I've thought about the HB kit, but from what I hear, the Meng kits are outstanding, and the HB kits are , well, not.

Karl, lookin' good.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:13 PM

Very sinister in all black!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:06 PM

Model Maniac

Nice selection and add-on parts, Karl. But Leopard 2 A4 is a little outdated. Now I'm waiting for Meng or other manufacturers to offer the new Russian T-14 tank. It's my most wanted item now!:

www.youtube.com/watch

that's an interesting music mix. if you like the flute try some didgeridoo. assuming the flute music is calming for you might i suggest GANDALF and HILDEGARDE VOM BINGEN. which is choral music from the 12th century.

my bet is MENG in November for a T-14. love auto loaders on bad guy panzers. apparently there is an entire series of new AFVs. including the BMP-T Terminator. and MOS-1

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:39 PM

Looking nice Karl, I do like the look of that slab sided turret.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:18 PM

Not much excitement here beyond finishing the tracks, which took hours. Yes, I did do the full run---no cheating and leaving off the upper run for me. Wink

I also added some more chains to the front mantlet plugs, and found a figure for it. This is a resin British figure from the 90s, whose uniforms can be easily modified into that era's modern German. Can't wait to get this baby painted.The hull's not connected to the bottom yet..

That "sag" in there is not for realism--Leopard tracks don't sag, It's just to snug the tracks against the sprockets. And you can't see it under the hull.

Time to dig into that Leopard 1 now...Smile

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:59 PM

I just got he Stridsvagen 122 Swedish one Carlos! They're pretty nice kits. Rubber band tracks, but on these, that's fine if they're an acceptable standard.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:53 PM

Thanks, guys---sorry that I'm once again tardy in replying. I've been working on these tracks and also doing some landscaping for the lawn.

Cliff, I agree with you about doing an old kit-it's nice to get back to basics and really work on being a "modeler" with some creativity and work.

Carlos, I won't go in for the "ton of upgrade" even though I know there are a zillion crazy things you can get for this kit that make it more than average. I had one of these built and sold it on eBay; it wasn't as detailed, and the paint was very basic, so that's my standard--a better paint job, and a little more detailing, and I'll be happy with it. The MENG one will no doubt have everything you could ever want, so I don't see the point on blowing wads of cash on this right now. :)

Hugo, thank you for those pics! That's the finish I want. I think I've seen those pics somewhere before; they're probably the ones that inspired me to want to go with the old finish! I hope I can get that grimy, dirt-streaked finish on the bottom pic!

Feldgrau23--if you can post a link, I"d appreciate it. I am going to do some basic upgrades-mirrors, mantlet cover, etc--but would appreciate any help I can get!

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:45 PM

Why wait for Meng RB? Hobbyboss has a whole family of Leopard II kits out now in 1/35.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, May 14, 2015 5:36 PM

Karl, the old Leo 1 should be a hoot!

After I read Harold Coyle's "The Ten Thousand" I got the urge to do the Leo2A4, but I hate Italeri kits. Now that Meng has one in the pipeline, I may re-visit.....

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:57 AM

Looking very impressive looking forward to your progress.

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Posted by feldgrau23 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:05 AM
Great work Karl. I have the Tamiya Leopard one one my bench and i'm here to tell you its A handful. There are a lot of things that need to be fixed. I can post them all tomorrow for you if you would like.
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Posted by garzonh on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:01 PM

Hi Karl,

I dig into ooold history and I have a book about "modern tanks" from 1992... Whistling and found this pothos from a Leopard, in fact there are like 6 more photos. Since its and old book, prior to Internet, I dont think you can find them out there...I just thought they wer nice pics.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:51 PM

Karl, the PE adds a lot of nice small touches to make this one look a lot better! I do like how you have put the mirrors in the stowed position as well! You are getting bold to tackle the old Tamiya Leopard. That kit is probably 40 years old now and needs some serious work to bring it up to standards. One of the master builders in our AMPS chapter just finished the same kit, but with a ton of upgrades. I want to see how you work it out.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 7:56 AM

Very cool Karl, and I have to agree- with some of the teeny PE parts it's just not worth it to me to try to cement something on smaller than a gnat's eyebrows...

That Tamiya Leopard I should be fun, just finished up a 1979 vintage Tamiya Type 74 recently and it was a nice break from the super detailed zillion part kits of today.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Puebla, Mexico
Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:16 PM

Karl,

Cant wait to see how you make them stand out.

Where do you find time to do so many kits?....I can barely keep up with my Jagd...which has like 50 pieces... =)

And now, are you going to build 3 leopards?, Revell, Tamiya and Meng??...

Your local hobby store must like you very much .. $$$

I'll sure keep an eye on this thread.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 11, 2015 12:36 PM

Lovely looking build there karl, coming on nicely.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by the doog on Monday, May 11, 2015 12:16 PM

Carlos, I agree, I love that WWII panzer division sign! I noticed that on a few other pics as well.

Phaisal, yes this model is a bit "outdated". But it's a good model and captures the look of this impressive tank if given a little care. I hope to do it justice!

I'm finished with the body hull and turret. I dug out some PE to use for the smoke dischargers--I know that some would say that I'm probably polishing a turd here, but it wasn't hard to do and at least adds some detail to an otherwise chunky kit in some regards. Note the weld seam made around the small hatch on the side. Only the very earliest Leopard 2A4 had a shell eject hatch here; it was quickly welded over and then deleted on later models.

The PE for the tools are those clamps that I picked up. It must be noted here that these clamps from Voyager are so ridiculously fragile and tiny that I would go as far as to call them "defective". The small handles for the clamps simply can not be used in the manner proposed, as they are hair-thin, impossible to handle or manipulate. I wound up not using them after mangling several of them and realizing the futility of the exercise.

Most photos show the mirrors folded down, so I reconfigured the mounts for the mirrors and put them in a down position.

 Gotta love the look of this panzer. I still have to tackle the tracks..

I've also decided to do a "twofer", since this tank and the second one here can both be finished in the same paint color, "Gelb Oliv". I'm going to build the venerable old Leopard 1 as well and finish them together. Stay tuned!

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Posted by Model Maniac on Saturday, May 9, 2015 10:58 PM

Nice selection and add-on parts, Karl. But Leopard 2 A4 is a little outdated. Now I'm waiting for Meng or other manufacturers to offer the new Russian T-14 tank. It's my most wanted item now!:

www.youtube.com/watch

Impressive Songs:

All 10 Playlists that I created on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ModelManiacThailand/playlists

Pan Flute Music (300 songs) (Most Popular, over 100K views):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUNb2zPxGTZO7alagEPsEMzgBkWt4-vKV

El Condor Pasa (Top 50) (World's most famous and my most favorite song):

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUNb2zPxGTZOLKHbju350mLle4HkMhsb8

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:26 AM

Can You say " Run "

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 2:39 PM

the doog

Cliff, I agree with you about the Leo2A4. I have always thought that the turret was almost a challenge to the enemy, like "Sloped armor? What? Why? Go ahead, take your best shot!" Yeah, it's a cool looking tank for sure!

Yes, it's almost like the guy who designed the original Henschel Tiger I had his ghost working on this one...

As far as photos of Leo2's go... these are my faves ever since I came across them... the WWII 11th PD insignia on Bundeswehr tanks... 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:01 PM

Zack, thanks for the cool photos, Most export Leopards have unique individual parts, unique to that country, so you have to be careful if you want a diffeent paint scheme.. This one will be simply German, from the early years. I always love cool pics of the 2A4 though, I've done a 1A3 in camo netting. I think it's in my Fotki gallery too..

I did some more work today; geez, there's a lot of cleanup needed! I decided to close the gunner hatch, but keep the TC one open. The TC one has a molded on hatch wheel, so I scavenged the one from the one on the gunner's hatch since it will, be closed. I also had to put a brace into the Gunner's hatch because it would just sink into the hole.

The hatches as they now sit..

Gotta do some work on the smoke dischargers and try to get those tools brassed-up with the PE tomorrow. Stay tuned!

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:55 PM

Russ, I have always liked that series of photos that the one above was taken from. I don't know if I'll do it up that dirty, but you never know with me, lol!

Cliff, I agree with you about the Leo2A4. I have always thought that the turret was almost a challenge to the enemy, like "Sloped armor? What? Why? Go ahead, take your best shot!" Yeah, it's a cool looking tank for sure!

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