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1/35 Jagdpanzer IV L/70, 3rd PLACE. State IPMS

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1/35 Jagdpanzer IV L/70, 3rd PLACE. State IPMS
Posted by garzonh on Friday, May 8, 2015 9:40 PM

So, here we go again.. another kit, another opportunity for creativity.

Not much to show so far, just the simple OB build..but I want to create a dio with the Jagd with some part inside a pond, or river... well see...

 

Here you have...

 

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, May 9, 2015 12:35 AM

Looking forward to your outcome. I liked that T-62 you just finished. Are you doing the early or late version?

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, May 9, 2015 8:42 AM

Nice,I just grabbed the new Dragon kit,looking forward to yours.

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, May 9, 2015 9:43 AM

I'd go for the the L/70 version, looks more potent and has more character.  The three return rollers could be found on either vehicle, but is more common on the later version. (3 return rollers introduced in Sept. 1944, while production of the L/48 ended some time in Nov. '44).

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About the new Dragon L/48, it does have a few accuracy issues, the least of which is the barrel.  It is too fat as a short cut was taken by lobbing off the front end of the long gun version.  Full low down can be read here:

http://worldwartwozone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28218-dragon-6369-jagdpanzer-iv-l48-july-production-wzimmerit-most-disappointing-kit-of-2015/

regards,

Jack

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Posted by garzonh on Saturday, May 9, 2015 10:29 AM

Hi Eric, tigerman:

I will do the early version.

Thanks for you comments on my T62

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Posted by garzonh on Saturday, May 9, 2015 10:34 AM

Tojo62, I bet the Dragon kit has a lot more details and features, this is very simple no PE, no metal barrel, not huge decals.... I like this simple kit, since I can focus on a cool cammo painting and dio...still thinking...what to do.

I will keep eye on yours...VERY closely... =)

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Posted by garzonh on Saturday, May 9, 2015 10:39 AM

Jack, hmmm...too much info for me...heheheh...... it is going to be early version, I dont have skills to do the zimm.. I would have liked to add a PE aftermarket, but I just want a fun easy build.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:21 PM

Nice start on this one, we seem to be on the way to a full platoon of these soon.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:05 PM

garzonh

Tojo62, I bet the Dragon kit has a lot more details and features, this is very simple no PE, no metal barrel, not huge decals.... I like this simple kit, since I can focus on a cool cammo painting and dio...still thinking...what to do.

I will keep eye on yours...VERY closely... =)

Your kit looks great and I've seen your work,enjoy !!

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, May 10, 2015 2:35 AM

garzonh
it is going to be early version, I dont have skills to do the zimm..

Actually, I believe the early would have been more likely to have Zimmerit (up to Sept. '44) than the late.

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Posted by the doog on Monday, May 11, 2015 11:44 AM

The early Jgdpz IV's definitely had zimmerit. Late ones were very rare to be seen in zimmerit. The pattern is typical trowel lines.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:03 PM

Now, Im confused....

The kit instructions for earlier version do not have zimmerit,, while the older one has...

Im building the one pictured in the top right corner (cammo) of the box art. Is it an earlier or older version?

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:07 PM

The one without the muzzle brake, that's the L/70, the later version.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:17 PM

OOOOhhhhh.... Im then building the later version!.  OopsBang Head

Thank you Bish Bow Down

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:19 PM

No worries, and there is an easy way to tell which is which. The L/48 and L/70 refer to the length of the barrel. L/70 = longer barrel.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:29 PM

Fixed the title of the post...thanks again.

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:42 PM

It can get confusing, because both the short gun version (L/48) and long gun (L70) had changes incorporated during production that could further classify them into early or late models. The main ones that both shared:


Early:

- zimmerit

- 4 return rollers

- single muffler

Late:

- no zimmerit

- 3 return rollers

- dual mufflers

-  front pair all steel road wheels (L/70 version)

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In the Wydawnictwo Militaria publication, the book deals with just the short gun version, and in chart form presents deliveries of this vehicle.   The 11th Panzer Div. took two separate deliveries in November of 1944, with 14 units arriving on the 11th, and another 6 on the 20th.

So if you want to build the short gun without zim, it is historically possible, and there would be no need to play the 'artistic license' card.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 11, 2015 2:33 PM

heheh...no trouble I'm actually doinig the long barrel without zimmerit... THANKS!!

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Posted by garzonh on Friday, May 15, 2015 7:10 AM

Hammer time...Music  sorry...wrong tape...  update time...

Ok, so the fit of this kit is far than perfect. I had tons of trouble "marrying" the uppper and lower hull. As much as I tried there were huge gaps, and I did had to use a lot of my dremmel to sand a lot of the inside walls of the upper hull to make it fit...still had major gaps.Super Angry

I added a lot of putty and it will take me days to sand it out, plus the place I had to add it, makes it more difficult to polish out.Censored

Oh well, so I just had to sand out this and then move to the painting...and dio setting.

Oh yes, and almost forgot...I need to work on the individual links.... which will take me weeks...Confused at my pace.. so yes, a weekend build, is a 2 month project for me...  

Im thinking of a dio...which if and thats a BIG if, should come out nice...have a great idea but still having the squirrell in my head working out the details...so we will see..

As always, thanks for stopping by and above all I appreciate your comments and suggestions.

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Posted by garzonh on Friday, May 15, 2015 7:29 AM

Almost forgot...

It seems this tank design was succesful they kept on improving and build it in modern times..here are some pics... of 1992!!!

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 15, 2015 9:58 AM

This kit looks to be the same as the one I recently did.  I too had some gap on the sides by the drive sprockets, but not as bad as you have pictured here.  The rear gap, check your instructions in step 22 for part no.  D7

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Friday, May 15, 2015 3:09 PM

Some nasty gaps there, but I think your getting the better of it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Reaper420 on Friday, May 15, 2015 4:51 PM
Looking good so far. I've considered buying either a Jagdpanzer or a Stug III for a tank hunter. I just bought a Tiger VI (P) that's on deck. I love that tank especially the L/70 gun.

Kick the tires and light the fires!

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 18, 2015 9:22 AM

Jack, you are completely right!!... With StupidBang Head

Anyway I had a nice foundation to put the missing part in...

Thanks again.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 18, 2015 9:23 AM

Bish, I was able to fill in the gaps...so so...but anyway this areas will be filled with mud, or dirt, or something...

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, May 18, 2015 9:24 AM

Reaper420, thank you. Yes, this is nice tank, not the kit, had tons of fitting issues.

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Posted by garzonh on Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:08 PM

Ok, so after some time.... Sleep

I finally have most of the tank built...Im looking to add tons of stuff over and sides of it. Im still working on the tracks, and I will also add figures and of course a dio. So still lot to come.

I painted the cammo free hand and added a lighter, very thinned and sprayed far away to tie everything. I hand painted the "triangles" to break the cammo effect. Not sure if this was actually used but looks cool. Cool

Of course there will be some weathering, hopefully not too much, I always get carried away. I will try to tie my hands... Whistling

Here it is:

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Posted by the doog on Friday, June 5, 2015 6:58 AM

That looks nice, Hugo. That scheme is plausible--there were a lot of one-offs and even some weird schemes dreamed up by crews on StuGs and other vehicles that you can catch here and there in photos.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, June 5, 2015 3:22 PM

This is good stuff. The camo is really well done and the weathering is still on the light side ;) lol

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by feldgrau23 on Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:40 AM

your paint job on this is great. Very nicely done!!

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