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Mothballed Sherman Progress Pics
Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, May 28, 2004 8:44 PM
Well here it is ...... official post #5,000.

A number of years ago, while drooling my way through Hunnicuts "Sherman, A History of the American Medium Tank", I ran across a couple of pictures that intrigued me.

Now most everyone has heard of the "Mothball Fleet", where the U.S. placed a substantial number of capital ships into a mothballed condition for future usage. Little known is that the U.S. did the same thing with the Sherman so that it could and was in fact used in future conflicts.

Over the years I considered building one of these "Canned Shermies" and recently I jumped into it.

Only having 2 pictures to work with made the build rather interesting but so far I am pleased with the results.

Here's the 2 pics that I used for reference for this build.





The kit that I chose to use for this build was the Tamiya M4A3 105 with the HVSS tracks from AFV Club. These tracks are listed as workable ..... notice I say listed as. The only thing workable about these things are the amount of work that goes into them to make them stay together. Angry [:(!]
The dust cover is tissue paper soaked in white glue / water
All structural work is sheet styrene and engineering plastics.
A few more odds and ends and she's ready for the paintbooth.

Here's a couple of pics with the "house" on





And a few more with the "house" off (the tracks are just set in place for these photos)











And just to complete this photo array, here's a couple of shots of the "twins", just about ready to go in the booth too. Just a few more bits to add.



This next shot shows the detail on the dust cover with strips of brass cut from a sheet and bolt detail from Grandt.



Hope you enjoy these progress pics.
All comments and critiques welcome.
Approve [^]
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 8:54 PM
Coming along nicely
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Posted by Keyworth on Friday, May 28, 2004 8:55 PM
Nice work, Robert. I knew you had it in you!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:00 PM
Please forgive my obvious intellectual ineptitude, Mister Shermanfreak. Are you planning on doing a "Sherman in a Can" build?

Also, I had thought that hundreds of Shermans were sent to the bottom of the Atlantic after WWII. Is this the same idea?

Finnally, if you have so many extra shermans that you are experimenting with canning them, could you please send a couple my way? I need plenty of practice.

Your most hirsute fan,
Hiram

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:01 PM
They look fantastic. Keep sending in the pictures. I'm starting to get motivated.

Grant
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:07 PM
As usual they're great sherm!

I've also got a question,
the Sherman in the Bulge exhibit on this page, http://www.rrmtf.org/firstdivision/main.htm is it a WW 2 sherman? I think it is pretty close to the twins your building

thanks in advance...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:10 PM
NIce work robert!
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Posted by Buddho on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:12 PM
Amazing how you keep coming up with new Sherman subjects... and this build from only two photos. It's looking great ....Robert

Regards, Dan

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:19 PM
Excellent on all counts....Love it!
The 'mothball' looks like it's curling up for the winter.

Shouldn't you surround it with fire extinguishers for accuracy?
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Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:27 PM
Hiram - the reference to a "Sherman in a Can" is just my tongue-in-cheek way of describing this build. The way that the Sherman was encased in metal to seal it for future usage.
The tanks that were dropped in the ocean are ones used to create artificial reefs I believe. Not only Shermans were used for this. So, no, not the same thing. The Shermans were mothballed in Detroit for future usage. Many were used in Korea.
As soon as I run out of Sherman variants to build, I'll send you whatever is left over. Wink [;)]

Will - The picture on that site is either an M4A2 or and M4A3 with HVSS suspension. If it's an M4A3, then yes it was a late comer to the war. If it's an M4A2, it's in the wrong place. The Russians may have recieved some on lend lease, but the commonwealth troops didn't and the U.S. never used them there.

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by renarts on Friday, May 28, 2004 9:56 PM
Robert,

Excellent build. I love this unusual subject matter and of course your build is top shelf as usual. So much better than the usual tank in mud subjects that everyone does.

You are THE SHERMAN FREAK
Mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, May 28, 2004 10:00 PM
congrats on 5000!!!

I like the build!! want to see some paint on it, though!!!!
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, May 28, 2004 10:02 PM
Magnificent build, Sherm. Although I was kinda expecting to see some mothballs on those, too.

He-he-he.

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Posted by lizardqing on Friday, May 28, 2004 10:21 PM
Interesting build Robert. Another fine project in the works for sure. When I read the topic i thought it was a build you had put up a while back and forgot about.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:44 PM
I was thinkin the same as Dwight there Robert.The twins look good can ya tell me where yo got the HVSS from I cant seem to find a ny kits out that contain it. I did finaly come across a sherman with the rounded cast hull...up to 6 shermans now Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] and I got to tell ya thesherman in a can is pretty cool. Strange how they do that, so do you need a electric or manual canopener or is it the new pull tab style to open it...hahaha
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 29, 2004 2:41 AM
Looking great.
And an interesting subject too.
Now Im hungry for some more pics.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Saturday, May 29, 2004 4:05 AM
Very original and quite interesting, Robert. As always, it's coming along just beautifuly!
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Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:30 PM
Congrats on the 5G!
That is a very interesting build. Maybe you should make about a thousand of 'em and do a "Raiders of the Lost Ark"-style storage warehouse diorama!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:57 PM
Thanks Robert that helps a lot!
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Posted by okieboy on Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:22 PM
Outstanding pics Shermie. Speaking of the venerable Sherman, I have a few questions for you about it. I'll post the question in the forum.

Okieboy
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod
can ya tell me where yo got the HVSS from I cant seem to find a ny kits out that contain it.


The sets I used here are DML's. The M4A3 came with them but it is an old kit and I don't think available at this time. The set used on the M4A2 came from DML's M-50 Isherman kit. As far as I know, it is still on the market.
You can also look for DML's M-51 Super Sherman kit or Academy's kit of the same and use the suspensions from them.
AFV Club has a HVSS suspension set and seperate track sets available, but it's probably cheaper to purchase one of the above kits and just use them.

Thanks all for the kind words ..... I'll keep you posted as these 3 progress.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, May 29, 2004 4:15 PM
robert i could not think of a better, more fitting topic for post number 5k. outstanding. and congrats.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:08 PM
Nice work Robert. Unusual but great. The twins r looking good. Thanx for showing us. And congrats on the 5000 posts.

Keep well.
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Posted by Build22 on Monday, May 31, 2004 8:36 AM

Cograts on #5,000 Mr PostmasterGeneral !


You are the backbone of the FSM Forum ( we might have Scoliosis - you know -a little twisted ) but you are the backbone


Great detective work on the shermie theme !
Looks great ! Great job w/the styrene.


Jim [IMG]
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Posted by therriman on Monday, May 31, 2004 8:58 AM
Congrats on 5k Robert. More Masterful work. You are the Sherman Master.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 31, 2004 4:27 PM
Poor little shermans all stuck up in a can and some dropped off into the ocean!

Great looking models Robert!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 31, 2004 6:01 PM
Congrats on the 5Gs... Super and original idea... Some folks have all the class.... Can't wait to see it finnished
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Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, May 31, 2004 6:37 PM
Thanks again all ..... they've all made it to the paintbooth now.

QUOTE: Originally posted by ShermanFirefly
Poor little shermans all stuck up in a can and some dropped off into the ocean!


No oceans involved, they were placed at various points around the world .... on dry land........ no oceans for these ones !!!!!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 31, 2004 8:35 PM
What a cool idea, and it's looking great so far.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 31, 2004 8:39 PM
Wow I missed one of your post Rob. sorry ,must of been Clown [:o)]in. I do have the super sherman but I am gonna build it as is and AFV is more $$ than the kit so you are correct on that..guess I will go get another M-51.
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