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                        Updated Pics--Flakpanzer Wirbelwind--COMPLETED

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:50 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wbill76

                        Very nice dwight...you are aggravating my BMKS condition! Big Smile [:D]


                        Big Smile [:D]

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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:44 PM
                        Very nice dwight...you are aggravating my BMKS condition! Big Smile [:D]

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:42 PM
                        While here's a link to my mobelwagon showing the extremely spacious set-up with the armor panels down.

                        http://www.info.com.ph/~tdwight/FP1.jpg

                        http://www.info.com.ph/~tdwight/FP4.jpg


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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:37 PM
                        Yep, I've seen similar pics as well as the box art on the Tamiya, very tight quarters. Judging by the seat arrangement and the height of the turret itself, it looks like you could get out of the turret by standing on the respective seats and hitching over the side. Getting in would be more like jumping a chain link fence...grab the edge and scramble over!

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:34 PM
                        wbill76,

                        I found these links about the wirbelwind and in the first one it really looked too cramped with the figures inside.

                        http://www.pcglabs.mun.ca/~timm/ww/ww.html

                        http://www.achtungpanzer.com/flak4.htm#ostwind

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:30 PM
                        very nice finished product, easily a contest winner.
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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:20 PM
                        Dwight,

                        I have to admit this one really has me stymied...I can't find any pictures that show hinges on the turret with the exception of that one hatch and that's what leads me to believe the only way they could get in would be to climb over. Must have been tough for the loaders especially! It certainly doesn't look like it would be very easy to get out of it either in the event of being attacked...

                        I thought about doing the Mobelwagen as opposed to the Wirbelwind and it's a subject I will likely return to in the future. The opportunities it represents with the figures are very tempting!

                        Mike,

                        Thanks for the good wishes, I leave on Thursday for an 11 1/2 hour flight in coach...thank goodness for portable DVD players! Big Smile [:D]

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 6:33 PM
                        wbill76,

                        I kinda agree with you about how the figures will really block the view of the interior. Actually mine was the Mobelwagon which is a bit roomier than the Wirbelwind. And the side armor also opens up to accomodate the figures.

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                        yw18mc
                        • Member since
                          April 2004
                        • From: sunny imperial beach
                        Posted by yw18mc on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:09 PM
                        Looks just great as stated earlier Bill, just wanted to wish you safe trip overseas and we'll see ya when you get back. Thats one part of working for a living I do not miss! those long working trips. semper fi, mike
                        mike
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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:01 PM
                        Zokissima,

                        I applied an overall dust coat with weathering powders and then used a damp sable brush to streak the dust with ordinary water. The water activates the binder in the powder and when it dries, the streaks remain. Prior to doing that, I used oil pastels to highlight panel lines and raised areas and used the dust to tie it all together.

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                        zokissima
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Monday, July 26, 2004 11:30 AM
                        Wow, very nice. THe differences between the clean and weathered pics are astounding. Did you apply an overall wash or dustcoat, or both?
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                        wildwilliam
                        • Member since
                          December 2009
                        • From: West Grove, PA
                        Posted by wildwilliam on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:27 AM
                        that must have been some fun!
                        (climbing over the sides)
                        i wonder if they used a small ladder or step stool or something.

                        i thought maybe the sides tilted down like the Mobelwagen sides or something.
                        or opened like a clamshell.
                        or i don't know what!
                        :-)
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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:11 AM
                        ww,

                        I'm definitely thinking of using the spotter and have kept all the figures and their accessories for inclusion in this or other projects later on. Contest rules can be somewhat tricky...some allow one figure, others say that any figures represent a diorama, etc.

                        As for how the crew actually got into the turret, I'm guessing they just climbed over the top (one of the reasons I tried to scratch/weather up the turret top a bit) and squeezed in. The only hatch is on the front of the turret and seems to be for maintenance access to change the barrels or reach the gun mount mechanisms more than anything else.

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                        wildwilliam
                        • Member since
                          December 2009
                        • From: West Grove, PA
                        Posted by wildwilliam on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:04 AM
                        wbill,
                        maybe you could have the spotter spotting AC and the crew climbing on?
                        like they had been eating lunch or just loafing about?

                        of course, i don't know how they would get IN the turret!
                        did the sides open some how?
                        may not be a usable idea, but something to think about.
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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 26, 2004 8:38 AM
                        Thundergod,

                        Yes, it's the Tamiya done OOB. I almost added indy tracks to it but that would have been a disqualifier for the contest I'm entering. Only modification I made was to drill out the gun barrels.

                        Dwight,

                        It was a hard choice on the figures but I decided to leave them out in favor of showing off the detail on the interior of the turret. The figure set provided is excellent, perfect for a diorama setting with the 3-man crew and spotter/commander.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:08 PM
                        Wow she is beutiful!!!! Nice camo job. I really want that kit now seeing it built. Is it the tamiya?
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:03 PM
                        Very nice! makes me want'a build one myself!
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:51 PM
                        I hope you'll add figures to that, too. I did mine with the figures and they really added life to the model. Anyway happy trip.

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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:49 PM
                        Thanks to all for the great comments. Any chance I can get you to come down and serve on the judging panel? Clown [:o)]

                        I had to finish this one up for two reasons and was glad the weekend allowed me to do it. 1) I'm leaving for Fiji for a week on business on Thursday and that will take up 2 full weekends, my normal modelling time, plus the wear and tear associated with international travel and 2) the GB will start the next week on the 16th and I wanted to have a clean work area for that. I intend to put a lot of effort into that GB along with all the other participants and didn't want the Wirbelwind sitting there taunting me about it being unfinished. Big Smile [:D]

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:01 PM
                        Great Job, man. That's just beautiful!

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                        yw18mc
                        • Member since
                          April 2004
                        • From: sunny imperial beach
                        Posted by yw18mc on Sunday, July 25, 2004 11:41 AM
                        It's blue ribbon material Bill. Great finish, beautiful camo, excellent workmanship. Give this man a medal! Good luck in the competition. semper fi, mike
                        mike
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                        wildwilliam
                        • Member since
                          December 2009
                        • From: West Grove, PA
                        Posted by wildwilliam on Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:48 AM
                        wbill,
                        excellent work!
                        i really like the camo, and the weathering has muted it nicely.
                        good luck in the contest.
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                        Duke Maddog
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        • From: Rowland Heights, California
                        Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:17 AM
                        Awesome work wbill! I think you'll place! I love the weathering on it.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:07 AM
                        I love it, Great job all around. Good luck in October.
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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:38 AM
                        Thanks phroosh! The weathering has a very subtle streaked effect to simulate dust/rain streaks on the hull and turret superstructure but the light kind of drowns it out, making it hard to see. Every kit is an adventure and I've applied some very helpful things picked up here for painting and detailing to add to my "toolbox".

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 3:40 AM
                        Excellent work Wbill. I like the pioneer tools especially. Nice subtle weathering.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:51 AM
                        Very nice, good luck.
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                        wbill76
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: Texas
                        Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:30 PM
                        This is my first time entering a contest so ought to be interesting. Figured I'd get my feet wet in a local show/contest and see what happens. I've got a Hummel I finished before this one that will also be entered. Depending on how things go, I may also enter the GB StuH42 just to broaden the categories.

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                        gdarwin
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: bc,canada
                        Posted by gdarwin on Saturday, July 24, 2004 9:21 PM
                        Big Smile [:D] very nice build,good luck at the contestBig Smile [:D]

                        gdarwin[roy]
                        airborne death from above http://photobucket.com/albums/a350/roygd/
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