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Tiger I.. Panther G.. or Pzkpfw IV Ausf H ??

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by panther18

Build the TIGER.. Build the TIGER.. Build the TIGER.. Build the TIGER.. ;)


Isn't that kind of funny, Panther18 says build the Tiger, and I Tigerman recommend the Panther. Okay, not everyone got a chuckle out of that. Sorry Big Smile [:D]

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:51 PM
Panzer IV is a great tank but I would recommend for more experienced armor builders due to the shurtzen. That narrows it down to the Panther and the Tiger. I personally love the Tiger so I'm going to recomend the Panther first (use it as ur test subject). Get ssome experience and than build the Tiger. You will be so happy when that beautiful finished Tiger roles off the assembly line. I have modelled all three and I saved the Tiger for last and it came out to be the best of all. Good luck, I hope you are successful with whatever you decide to do!
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:50 PM
Welcome to the forums and the darkside!

Tanks are like Lays potato chips...you can't build just one...Big Smile [:D]

I'd have to agree with Dwight and tigerman, if you want a good kit with a challenge but not too much challenge, go with Dragon. The kits are cheaper in cost and will provide more parts/detail vs. the Tamiya (IMHO, some may kill me for saying that) and will be more satisfying in the end. Since you've got experience with aircraft, complex paint schemes probably don't phase you but if you want to start simple to get your feet wet go with an early Tiger in Panzer Gray or Dunkelgelb.

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 7:36 PM
Welcome to the Darkside! As Tigerman said, if you want a Panther G..go with Dragon. It's a nice kit, well-detailed, cheap and with individual track links suited for the Panther.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 6:53 PM
I'd go with an Early production Tiger, all in grey. The Tamiya kits are nice, apparently, and it would be a simple, but classic start.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 6:33 PM
Build the TIGER.. Build the TIGER.. Build the TIGER.. Build the TIGER.. ;)
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 6:07 PM
Does it have to be Tamiya? For half the cost you can buy a Dragon Panther G Late. You can't go wrong with any of them. I've heard the Tam,iya Panzer IV J is a better kit than the H. I'd buy all three online and save money. Welcome to the forums Audiophile.

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 6:05 PM
Geez ,you can't go wrong. Does it have to be Tamiya? I'd go with the Dragon Panther G Late for less then half the cost. I love the Panther. I'd buy all three online and save money.

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 Eric 

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Posted by roowalker on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:38 PM
Off to a great start!!! Also consider your finish choices, TigerI with a
solid color would be my 1st project, then either the Panther or PZR IV H,
w. camo . All 3 are great kits, easy to build,& AM galore!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:18 PM
yes go for all three this should get you well and truley over to the dark side and Sign - Welcome [#welcome]
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Posted by chester111472 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:40 PM
I had the same problem and decided to go with all three......at least I bought all three, but working on the Panther right now
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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:31 PM
Welecome to the forum, and to the darkside Big Smile [:D]
Seems like you've done enough of soulsearching in terms of which one appeals to you, and as wildwilliam said, you should just go with what appeals to you.
Personally, the Tiger is the crowning piece of German armor, and as such is a key item to have in your collection. However, since the PzIV was a very common sight, I think to start off a German colleciton, I'd go with that, then on to the Tiger and Panther.
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Posted by diggeraone on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:27 PM
I would go with pzIV Ausf H as my first,because you can do so much with it as compared to the Tiger or Panther.Digger
Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton
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Posted by wildwilliam on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:17 PM
uh-oh!
another a/c modeler feels the pull of the dark side! Big Smile [:D]
welcome to the forums, Audiophile!

all i can tell you is to pick whichever one appeals most.
there will be time to do the others later! Tongue [:P]
w/ German armor subjects, there is no end of aftermarket stuff.

to tip the scales a bit (and add some USEFUL advice)
check under the group build folder.
there is currently a Pzkpfw IV Group build going on.
that thread, and the builders in it could provide a welth of ideas and support
if you decide to go w/ the IV Ausf H.
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Tiger I.. Panther G.. or Pzkpfw IV Ausf H ??
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:49 PM
Have been modeling aircraft for a while but wanna start with armor. TANKS! Evil [}:)]

Right now my decision falls to one of three Tamiya 1/35 models: Tiger I mid; Panther type G late; PzKpfw IV Ausf H. I like all three for different reasons and simply cannot seem to come to a resolution of which one to buy without changing my mind a half-hour later. Just have a thing for Tigers, the Panther looks sooo cool, and the Panzer IV was a mainstay in German formations. I also see that the Tiger I and Panther have plenty of aftermarket options to make the kit that much more fun to build, while it seems that any detailing on the Panzer would have to be scratchbuilt. I'm no good at scratchbuilding stuff. Tongue [:P]

Am starting at the community college in about a week with classes half the day, two days a week, and have a job now that pays decently for a first job ... I have a lot of free time in my weeks now with all the summer activities finished, and expect to still have plenty of free time with cake classes and cake homework and the job. I don't want to get in over my head right off the bat with tanks and then get bored and disenchanted with it all, but also have always loved a good challenge. The Tiger and Panther routes would likely provide challenging and fascinating work, while it looks like the Pzkpfw IV would simply provide fascinating work.

I'm yammering .. sorry ... I was just looking for feedback in regard to these sets from people who have built any or all of them. Which set was the most fun? Which sets presented construction problems and what kinds of problems were they? Which sets are historically accurate? Those kinds of things. Any feedback would be highly appreciated and it seems that this is the place to get it. Thanks everybody for reading, and I'm looking forward to seeing what you have to say!

Happy modeling, over and out Big Smile [:D]
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