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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, June 8, 2003 12:07 PM
Originally posted by panzeriv
Speilburg being the director and all, you would think he would know better then to have the Africa Corps in 1938. This is the man who made "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers" after all. end of quote
You would think, huh. But when you look at it, there are some historical inacuracies in SPR too. For example, the Germans didn't deploy one or two Tiger tanks here and there, they were massed together in battalions (or in Panzer Divisions) to have the greatest firepower possible. And to add to that, there were no Tiger battalions in the American sectors in Normandy (at least for the first couple weeks after D-Day). And one thing that drove me nuts when I saw SPR was why do the Tiger tanks never fire their machine guns? They only ever fire the main gun.
I think what makes BoB so good is the fact that Hanks got the WW2 bug from SPR, and that Stephen Ambrose (may he rest in peace) and the actual vetrans had involvement (Winters, etc.).
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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, June 8, 2003 8:39 AM
sweet obadiah, that pic of the A7V takes me way back to that good old turnbased WW1 strategy game with the hexagons and things... what was it called again?
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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, June 8, 2003 8:31 AM
good point monsieur flicfrancais... hey thats got a good ring to it. i dunno maybe its just they found an original opel blitz and bunged it into the movie
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Posted by Anonymous
on Sunday, June 8, 2003 1:32 AM
Speilburg being the director and all, you would think he would know better then to have the Africa Corps in 1938. This is the man who made "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers" after all. My dad thinks he just likes makeing films about killing lots of Nazis, since he is Jewish. LOL.
Not only that but George Lucas is a perfectionist with his films you would also think he would have done his research better. But when it is all said and done it is only a fictional film anyway and a great one at that. Don't forget the guy playing Hitler looked nothing like him.
But the tank wasn't supposed to be German anyway, was of some made up Arab country, which might have bought some old WWI British tanks and modified them, them selves to suit their needs.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, June 7, 2003 5:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by crazy_995
i dont see anything wrong with the Afrika Korps insignia....
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The Germans weren't heavily involved in Africa until summer of 1941, and the "AK" wasn't created until then. All of the IJ movies are set pre-war (1938?).
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Posted by renarts
on Friday, June 6, 2003 9:31 PM
Queensland Australia???!!!!
Are you sure thats not something Ned Kelly rigged up? ![Wink [;)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif)
If you're modeling the tank from Indiana Jones, whats it matter if it has a historical counterpart? Its a model of the tank in Indiana Jones. Its Hollywood!!! ![Cool [8D]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_cool.gif)
IJ gets to fight with two German soldiers in a truck doing 50 mph and a staff car loaded with mp toting nazis (why they just didn't pull over and beat him stupid or shoot him is beyond me....) ![Evil [}:)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_evil.gif)
The moving going public wanted to see a Harrison Ford beat up nazis and destroy a tank. They got that and were none the wiser.
Mike ![Smile [:)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
Mike
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Here's a pic of an A7V. The sources state 20 made and only one survivor, Mephisto, which resides in a Queensland Australia Museum.
Happy Modelling and God Bless
Robert
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This description sounds like the German A7V, I believe there is / was one located in a museum in Australia. But there is no way on earth that the tank in the movie even comes close to an A7V. Sounds like Hollywood's describing the wrong beast.
Happy Modelling and God Bless
Robert
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I had forgoten about this part of the 'Star wars Archives' book, and Gregers is right. However, there no such a thing as a German Mk VII (as far as I know). The British MkVIII (8) 'International' is indeed the closest thing to the tank featuring in the movie! But it's not a MkVIII. The movie's tank was built from scratch, and although it looks like a MkVIII with a turret, it's not a MkVIII. The profile shows that the prop has narrower front and back ends (the angles are more acute) than on the real MkVIII. Other details differ too. The book has side and front view production illustrations that would be helpful to anyone intending to model this vehicle, and also has a nice shot of the real prop, also a side view, that shows a few differences from the illustrations. Here's a picture of a 1/76 MkVIII:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.van.oerle/landshp/cr-mk81.jpg
Being a resin kit, I'm not certain it would not be simply easier to scratch the whole thing, mostly as the tracks of the prop are very different anyway. The turret seems to be a fairly simple affair.
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Posted by gregers
on Friday, June 6, 2003 11:11 AM
just adding my two pence worth to this debate I have got a copy of the star wars archives book by mark cotta vaz and shinji hata. this includes indiana jones archives too. the plane was a pilatus pc2 a later derivative of the arado deign i belive.the biplane reg no D-EAQV was a modified stampe sv4. Now for the tank, The book states that it was "A motorized replica of a mark 7 german tank from world war 1. only eight such tanks had actualy been built for the war , and with the only surviving tank a none functioning museum piece, mechanical director George Gibbs and his crew had to construct thair full scale replica from scratch" The book is a good reference for modeling the film props and i hope they dont mind me quoting from it. hope this helps.....Gregers
Why torture yourself when life will do it for you?
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Posted by Anonymous
on Friday, June 6, 2003 9:42 AM
I forgot to look up the German MkVI "International" last night (from 1917) to see how accurate the movie's replica is. However, if I remember correctly, the German tank looked more like a British / American Mk VIII (also called an International), so I think a Mk IV wouldn't be the best place to start.
If I were modeling this, I'd make some scale (or even close to scale) drawings, use templates and make it out of styrene. Since the movie prop used cat. tracks, those would be easy to replicate in resin or styrene for that matter.
Sounds like one of you could make one, photo the process and present a NICE article for FSM!
Also, the article on the web stated that Bovington has a representation of the 'pattern' vehicle. They're on the web and a great source of information. Maybe try contacting them.
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