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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Tank?

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, June 6, 2003 1:57 AM
The tank used in the movie is not a Mark IV (4). Too short for that. Nor the 'Tadpole' variant of the Mk IV. It looks like a Mk V (5) or a Mk VI (6), but has obviously been converted with removal of the front 'box' that housed the driver and a machine gunner ( I think!), installation of a new 'glacis' and obviously, the addition of a turret, which the original never had. Conversion from a Mk IV from Emhar (the male, with the gun sponsons) should be possible, but it will mean the addition of several side panels to make the vehicle much longer and also the need for extra lenghts of tracks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 5, 2003 3:46 PM
QUOTE: What are you working on model wise for it?


I must admit I had not yet made any plans, although I have had the idea floating in the back of my head. Guess I will have to go through now... Big Smile [:D]
Perhaps I will go with one of the Emhar tanks and modify them somewhat. The turret looks kinda familiar. I would have to see the movie again, but the turret looks a bit like a Hotchkiss/Somua turret?
QUOTE: Want the pics I have?

That would be great!!!! Cool [8D]
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Posted by kaleu on Thursday, June 5, 2003 3:30 PM
Thanks for the info, Larry_Dunn. I have seen the Male and Female versions of Emhar kits at the hobby stores in Indy. Now I have another "good" reason to go to the hobby store and buy more kits.
Erik "Don't fruit the beer." Newest model buys: More than I care to think about. It's time for a support group.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 5, 2003 2:01 PM
Found this on the web (6/6/03) at www.indianjone.de/indy3/texte/making_of_03.php

'lumbering mass of steel' was a fully functional replica of a German 1917 International Mark 7 army tank used in World War I, designed and built by George Gibbs. According to Gibbs building this tank was the most difficult task of the film. These tanks were thirty-six feet long and weighed twenty-eight tons and only seven or eight of them were built for the First World War.

Happy modeling!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 5, 2003 11:37 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kaleu

Would one of the Emhar releases work if a modeller wants to build the tank from the movie?


Yes, that's a good place to start -- their Mk IV. (Sorry guys, I mistakenly typed Mk VI in my earlier reply.) Rent the movie, see what kind of turret they popped on the top, and convert that sucker!

Emhar makes both a 1/72 and a 1/35 kit of the Mk IV, which was the main heavy tank produced in WWI.

Does anyone remember if the Emhar kits are Male, Female, or options for both? I don't recall whether the movie tank was Male or Female.
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, June 5, 2003 9:29 AM
Ok guys,

The aviation infiltrator has to speak up on this one ;)
The "fighters" in Last Crusade were, in fact German Arado Ar-96s. Trainers, to be sure, but definitely well portrayed in the movie. The 96 was basically the German equivalent of the T-6 on our side of things.... the last step before getting to the fighters! Hell, you wouldn't need more than a pair of pilots eager to prove themselves in the 96 to down two civilians in a biplane! ;)
"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 5, 2003 5:58 AM
It was 1938, i think the fighters were messchersmitts of some sort, i dont see anything wrong with the Afrika Korps insignia....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 5, 2003 5:41 AM
I still want to know why the Germans where driving around in a Rolls Royce? And what where the planes that chased them fro the Zepplan? I think they might be a Pilatus PC-2 or something like that, seen one painted in German markings and looked like the ones in the Last Crusade. Also whats with the Africa corps insignia on thetailgate of the truck? Wasn't 1938?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 5:55 PM
lol.. Now remember guys, this is a movie, who said it had to be accurate???
They probably took the WWI tank and welded the turret just so the Nazi dude had somewhere to hang on to when he went over the cliff..lol
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Posted by kaleu on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 5:23 PM
Would one of the Emhar releases work if a modeller wants to build the tank from the movie?
Erik "Don't fruit the beer." Newest model buys: More than I care to think about. It's time for a support group.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 4:46 PM
Take a look at VP's signature WW1 tank, it's got the basic idea of the Indy tanks but i think the side guns are a bit different.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 3:32 PM
Definitely a Mk VI, and it had some turret rather weirdly stuck atop it, if I remember correctly a british infantry tank's turret, but I don't remember which one, as it's been years since the one and only time I saw the movie (didn't float my boat).

Not that it matters. I mean, just look at that Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe aircraft they had in the first movie -- who didn't love that contraption! And unlike many model kits these days, that plane came with a tail swastika. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 3:28 PM
Hello Falcon... A reply to your reply...

I know for a fact, (I should have said that) that the turrett does not belong. As I said, I have seen the real thing used in the movie, there are infact two, one a real tank, and one a mock up towed by a car for the scene when Henry Jones (Sean Connery) falls on the tracks and Indy saves him by wrapping the whip around his foot...remember...but the other tank is an actual WWI tank..I was even inside it and saw whwre they removed the old engine and added 2 VW bug engines to run it. The Turrett is Welded on.

What are you working on model wise for it? I am intending to build the scene where the Kubelwagen is caught on the barrell of the cannon and they fire it off. Or at least till I change my mind again. Want the pics I have?

Steve
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 3:17 PM
I have been wondering the same for some time now. First time I saw the movie I didn't really pay attention, I hadn't started modelling armor yet. But when I recently saw it again, I was actually looking at it with armor modeler's eyes Wink [;)]
It looks like a WWI tank indeed. I have to agree about the turret, it shouldn't be there. On the other hand, it could be an evolved version of the Mk. VI Male? Anyone know anything about British "interbellum" armor (since the Last Crusade is set in about 1933 or so)???
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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Tank?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 3:05 PM
Hello fellow modelers,

How many of you remember the tank in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. I have been working on a model for a few years off and on, and i just realized how off I was. What kind of tank is that? It does not exist to the best of my knowledge. I understand that it is a WWI Mark VI (or something like that) Male. Yet the Turrett does not belong there. I have seen and touched and photographed the actual tank, as it stands in MGM Studios in Orlando. I have pics I can share if your inteested.

Got any info?

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