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Tamiya Jagdpanther WIP UPDATED 11/28 ... More Painting...

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Tamiya Jagdpanther WIP UPDATED 11/28 ... More Painting...
Posted by K-dawg on Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:16 AM

Well I pulled this old kit that I started way way way back in college out to give it another whirl. I have the Voyager sets, fruil tracks, Armorscale barrel... So we shall see what happens...

Anyway, I started as I usually do and that was to texture the hull with liquid glue and a brush. After that dried I sanded most of it off to make just the slightest rolled texture... BTW the red lines are for me to remember where all to put weld beads...

Weld seams were next. The Tamiya kits interlocking weld seams are MUCH too deep according to the pics of the Aberdeen rig. The weld beads actually sit flush to slightly proud of the surface. SO out came the Apoxie sculpt and here is how its going...


For the roof beads I just re-textured the ones that were already there as they are more or less right... The dremel and a sharp steel cutter was used for this and it'll be softened up later with liquid glue...

The armor scale barrel I picked up at the show last weekend is nothing short of stunning...

Its multi part brass break actually threads onto the end of the aluminum barrel.

That brass ring slides down (but not without a bit of sanding) onto the barrel

The resin shield replaces the Tamiya part and requires some cutting and a bit of drilling but nothing to difficult...

Onto the brass bits...
The voyager set is a dream and I have finnaly taken to soldering for large parts like this.. Its the only way... The boxes were carefully bent up on the Fenderbender but care must be taken with the goofy shapes of the boxes to make sure you ain't messing up another angle...
One of the boxs i've already started bashing up..


Comments and suggestions are always welcome...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:30 AM

Off to the races with this one, those Armorscale offerings are very nice...how was the fit on the two part muzzle brake? I'm assuming it requires glue/solder to assemble?

Nice work with the PE as well, will be watching this one closely. Wink [;)]

 

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Posted by K-dawg on Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:36 AM

Hey Bill,

Man the break is sweet! Its actually 3 main parts and two PE rings... Two of the brass parts thread onto the barrel and the third, the muzzel pops onto the middle part with a friction fit. ITS PERFECT! I will glue it but there really ain't any need, its all that good...

 

Later dude...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:31 AM

Interesting technique for the texturing. I'm going to have to give that a try sometime.

PE work looks great so far. Keep us updated.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 7, 2006 1:23 AM
Great build so far.
I'v been playing around with your liquid glue tecnique,wow thanks for enlightening me and that Armourscale barrel look's sweet.Big Smile [:D]

Just wondering what sort of soldering iron your using to solder the etch parts?

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Posted by FingersEddie on Saturday, October 7, 2006 1:29 AM
Lookin' fantastic!! The barrel and it's muzzle are a thing of beauty. It's great to see Tamiya's old kit bein' turned into a work of art with all these AM parts. Way to go man, it's inspirational!
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, October 7, 2006 7:32 AM
Great progress so far. I haven't heard of your glue technique, but find it interesting. The PE looks well done so far.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by K-dawg on Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:59 AM

Ok... finally got some stuff done and pictures took...

I really wanted to show some severe battle damage to the road wheels so out came the Dremel tool and various cutting bits... Most of the material was removed from behind and then dents were carved into the front to complete the look...

The outer row of road wheels was replaced with DML items as they have the correct double rim... Also one of the road wheels was replaced with a resin Tank Workshop item to replicate a wheel that has had the rubber portion ripped off.


I also moved along with the various PE parts. The Voyager fender parts were heated on the stove to make them more bendable but this also warped them badly...


Fortunately the process of bending the lip onto the parts straitened them right out...
Just for kicks I bent the fenders with the wider side clamped in the Fenderbender to see if it would grab the VERY small lip and bend it up...


Sure enough it bent it perfectly along the length even though there was not but maybe a millimeter of material to grab...

The fenders were attached with superglue and 5 min epoxy...


Moving to the engine deck I really wanted to make the armored covers seen on some later model Panther and Jagdpanthers. Apparently they were made from pieces of skirt armor so I took 2 sections of the Voyager schurzen and bent it in the Fenderbender to a U shape. Styrene pieces were superglued into the sides... I will be adding weld beads to the sides of the boxes a little later...

Lastly, I got around to gluing on the stowage boxes...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by matthew9 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:46 PM
Very nice detail work. Looking good. I look forward  to watching  this one.
Matt
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Posted by biffa on Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:37 PM
love all the battle damage, very nice way to add interest to a build, keep up the work and pics.
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Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:17 PM
Great battle damage Thumbs Up [tup]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by K-dawg on Friday, October 20, 2006 1:39 PM

Thanks a lot y'all... I really want this one to look like its been through a beating...

I got a bit more done last night but nothing worth posting pics of...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, October 20, 2006 4:51 PM
 K-dawg wrote:

Thanks a lot y'all... I really want this one to look like its been through a beating...

I got a bit more done last night but nothing worth posting pics of...

I think it has. Smile [:)] Nice work so far.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 20, 2006 9:40 PM

Wow. Beautiful photography.

This forum is certainly where I am learning the "how to" of modeling. Experience, skill and talent; thanks for sharing. I see that about a dozen of the regular modelers replied to your post and over 250 others have viewed it. I'll bet there are alot of beginners like me that really appreciate this and just don't around to saying it. Thank you.

Now I wonder if I can do a weld seam?

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Posted by m60a3 on Friday, October 20, 2006 9:54 PM
 K-Dawg, you are rocking on this one. Excellent job. Can you work faster though? I want to see more!!

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Posted by K-dawg on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:14 AM

Bob, Thanks a lot bro... I always learn from step by step so thats how I present stuff....

60, I appreciate it... I got a lot more done this weekend but i have to go to Canada in the morning so I'll post them when I get back next Monday...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:31 AM

Superb work Kenneth, Always a pleasure to watch you work.

 

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Posted by K-dawg on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:40 AM

Oh sure... You're nice to me here.... Bah!

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by zokissima on Monday, October 23, 2006 12:25 PM

Looking pretty sweet so far. I'm a sucker for heavily weathered builds. Anticipating how this one will look painted up.

I have just one quick thing to throw in; the battle dammage on some of those roadwheels, ie the gaping holes, is pretty damn severe. I don't think any small arms fire could have done that ,and anything bigger would probably have warped some part of the mounting mechanism. I guess what I'm trying to suggest is that if you're going to portray such heavy damage on the wheels, you should probably take one or two off completely.

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Posted by K-dawg on Monday, October 23, 2006 12:50 PM

Zoran, Thanks for the comments brother... Re, the roadwheel damage... Flipping through refs which included the heavily damaged Panther A at Aberdeen, roadwheel damage wasn't uncommon at all... Various holes appeared from simple shot holes from Russian AT rifles to having large pieces broken off (ala the Aberdeen Panther A) from larger shots or artillery splinters... I have thought about removing one completely as you say but haven't decided yet....

Thanks for the input...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by K-dawg on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:47 AM

Alright Y'all... Here is a whole crop of updates... I've been working hard on it the few days I've been home...

The fenders are on...

with the flat rivets being made from lead foil punched out with a homemade brass punch (turned in the dremel tool...)



The engine deck is very busy now with the field made sheilds over the grills  and the relocated tools... The barrel cleaning tube was scratchbuilt from aluminum, styrene and brass tube, then the Voyager parts fitted to that...

Here's more relocated tools along with the beautiful Ausfwerks fire bottle in the voyager bracket...

More of the shot damage and torn up fenders...

Still a little more work to be done but I should be able to start painting by the weekend... Hopefully...


Oh.. BTW... The voyager engine screens (square ones) DID NOT fit this kit... I had to cut all four of them down to get them to fit. I cut nearly 1mm off of them...

 

Thanks for looking, Comments and suggestions welcome....

 

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:27 AM
Nice work with the metal details Kenneth, coming along nicely. You'll have to call this a FrankenJagd by the time you're done. Smile [:)]
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:02 PM
Awesome work so far, she's gonna be a beaut when done.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:20 PM
Looking "REALLY" good. Should be a beautiful build. Steve

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:25 PM
Nice metal work.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by m60a3 on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:43 PM

 What a work of art! Thanks for sharing.

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:04 PM
cool
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Posted by K-dawg on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:40 AM

Ok... So the weekend wasn't good to me...

 I began painting by priming with Red Oxide primer from a rattle can like I always do... I decided to try my hand and a hand brushed hard edge camo... well long story short... I wasn't happy with how it was going so I stripped it with oven cleaner... Not the first time for that at all...

Well the primer was some sturdy stuff so I had to leave the oven cleaner on for a long time and do it several times... In the process many of the smaller brass parts began to fall off. Also much of the paint didn't come off leaving blotches and patches of primer everywhere...

SO.... I have decided to change horses and model a completely burned out JP... I've begun prep on a set of Tank Workshop burned Panther wheels to go with it... Also shot holes were formed into the right side...

Ok... Here's some pics of the paint fiasco... I am slowly gluing parts back on that fell off...


here are the two new entry holes, he one on the right is still being worked on...

and finally the lowered suspension arms... I got pretty brutal with this process... i was still very T'd off so i just grabbed them with pliers and broke/bent them into the position i wanted, then reglued them...

As I mentioned earlier... I think the patches of paint will actually help when it comes to doing a burned out scheme...

I hate that this is how this all turned out but maybe something good will come of it... Wish me luck...

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:22 PM
Don't despair!  You still can get something really well done out of it!

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:23 PM
Wow, that just bites. That is why I AB acryls, so easy to fix up a poor camo. I've done it more times than I care to recount.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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