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Tamiya Char B1 bis COMPLETED 03-04-07

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Posted by biffa on Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:39 PM
very nice Bill that camo is the bees knees it looks awesome.
Ron g.
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:32 PM
Thanks Ron, have to hand it to the French designers for coming up with interesting patterns. There seems to be a general pattern but each vehicle is slightly different depending on the crews I guess. I thought about doing the "puzzle piece" scheme but decided against it since all of the Echelon decals are for vehicles in the two-tone only.
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Posted by FingersEddie on Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:30 AM
Solid job on the camo', Bill. It looks a nice scheme!
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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:17 PM
Thanks Paul, it's going to cool its heels for a couple of weeks now due to the fact that I have to travel to Fiji for a week on Saturday for a customer visit and won't be able to get back to it until then.
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Posted by crockett on Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:46 PM

Camo looks clean Bill. Nice feathering effect between colors, not a true hard edge but nicely defined and subtle. Great work.

 

Steve

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 12, 2007 12:42 AM
That looks really cool Bill. Very nicely applied.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 12, 2007 8:26 AM

Steve,

That's what I was after since I'm not 100% convinced that the 2-tone scheme was indeed a hard-edged camo...so I split the difference. Took about 2-3 passes alternating between the colors, so many nooks and crannies that some overspray crept in unnoticed from time to time.

Tigerman,

Thanks for the comments. I think it's interesting that the Echelon painting guide has a caveat that says to the effect that the two shades are so closely related in b/w photos that they could actually be reversed...such is life with period photos I guess. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, February 12, 2007 7:31 PM
welcome home, Bill -- the char looks just great-- i am a little confused on how you got from the dark camo to the light-- was it a total repaint or like pre shading??-- in any case,Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]-- -- treadBig Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]

   

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 12, 2007 7:47 PM

Thanks for the welcome back tread! The dark brown was put down more as a primer coat than a pre-shade, but it does serve that purpose as well, at least for the lighter areas. Less so for the green.

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, February 23, 2007 10:39 PM

Made some progress today on the details in order to get everything squared away for the Future coat and decals.

First up were the rubber mud flaps/skirts on the bottom of the hull sponsons. These were hand painted using Model Master enamel Gunmetal as a base color prior to the final weathering. I like to use it instead of Flat Black for these types of things because it's got more of a bluish-gray look similar to synthetic rubber vs. the straight black color.

Next up was the antenna bellows and mast. I checked the references on "Marne" and it had one fitted, although not all pics of Chars show the mast in place even though the bellows are fitted. According to the Char Francais site, the bellows were leather and unpainted, so I painted it in a 50-50 mix of Leather and Military Brown and allowed some of the underlying tan styrene color to show through to provide some variation and the look of exposed/worn leather. I removed the molded on mast with sprue cutters and drilled out a hole in the top to take some brass rod which I lightly sanded, glued in place with CA gel, then painted with MM Metalizer Gunmetal.

Last but not least for the day's efforts, I dealt with the pioneer tools and painted the metal surfaces with metalizer Gunmetal followed by some lightly drybrushed Steel. The wood handles were painted with my own special mix of "wood" color and then lightly brushed with Burnt Umber pastels after they'd been glued in place to give it the varnished look. I also detailed the exhausts, painting them first with metalizer Gunmetal and following that up with a light wash of Rust and some drybrushing of Burnt Umber.

Tomorrow morning I'll give it the first coat of Future and start in on the numerous decal markings required for this vehicle.

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Friday, February 23, 2007 11:02 PM
Lookin' good! Almost makes me want to start building the B1 kit I have in my closet, but I'm saving it to make a German Flamethrower version. Can't wait to see it finishedSmile [:)]

Jonathan

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, February 23, 2007 11:49 PM
Thanks Hermes. The Beutepanzer flamethrower sounds like an interesting project, Echelon has a set of markings out I think for that one as well as other beutes used in different places.
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Posted by Gun Tech on Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:34 AM
Very nice Bill. You're getting there!

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:00 PM
Thanks GT, expect more progress today! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:47 PM

Today's efforts began with the final touches needed before applying the Future coat. I painted the inside of the auxiliary headlamp on the front hull with Silver and scrounged around in the spares bin and found a clear lens originally intended for a Pzkpw I that fit perfectly, the lens will be fitted later after all the weathering is completed. I also "pre-weathered" the drive sprockets and mud scrapers by drybrushing some Steel followed by drybrushed Burnt Umber in selected areas and around the drive teeth. Once that was taken care of, the Future was applied and allowed to set up for a couple of hours before starting work with the markings.

The Echelon set contains markings for several vehicles, including some "extras/miscellaneous" markings which are there I assume to allow for other additional vehicles to be modelled, including "Fatasque" although no finishing guide is provided for it. I cut out the markings for "Marne" and was very pleased with the design of the decals. The larger decals did not have solid centers but instead had connecting carrier film only where absolutely necessary. This made some of them a little more delicate than others, but they all came off the sheet cleanly and applied very easily. Each decal was given a light coat of Solvaset, especially those for the turret and the hull sides where they passed over rivets or raised details, and they settled down nice and tight without any problems. They will be allowed to dry overnight and will be given another sealing coat of Future before the weathering process begins in earnest.

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Posted by crockett on Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:34 AM

She's a beauty Bill, looks like your on the downhill slide to complete the beast. I was wondering about exterior stowage and bric-a-brac on French armor?? I haven't looked real hard, but I don't recall seeing a lot of it on the photos I've seen. Are you planning to use the commander figure?

 

Steve

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:38 AM
 crockett wrote:

She's a beauty Bill, looks like your on the downhill slide to complete the beast. I was wondering about exterior stowage and bric-a-brac on French armor?? I haven't looked real hard, but I don't recall seeing a lot of it on the photos I've seen. Are you planning to use the commander figure?

Steve

Thanks crockett! Most of the pics that I've seen on the Char Francais site don't show anything in the way of stowage beyond the tools and chains...which makes sense given how the turret traverses, anything strapped to the back would interfere with the line of fire. It's also notable how relatively clean they look in the photos...most of them, especially those shown knocked out, are on roads or in towns, so that would make sense I guess in one regard. The Chars weren't exactly speed demons to begin with and the time period for the Battle of France would've seen dry roads/conditions for the most part.

Not planning to use the commander figure since I closed up the turret hatch. There's absolutely no interior, not even a representation of the 47mm gun breech, inside the turret, and while the figure would obscure most of it it anyhow, it would still look odd IMHO. As a rule I don't usually include figures with my builds just because of how they end up in the display case vs. a base, but I hear Blast Models has come out with a better TC figure that could also be used for those so inclined.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 25, 2007 5:04 PM

I applied the sealing coat of Future to the decals and put it off to the side. While that's curing up, attention turned to the tracks and getting them ready to go.

Yesterday I'd applied a basecoat of MM Non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal using the AB since there's so many nooks and crannies, I wanted to get a good coverage of all the surfaces.

Throughout this process I did one track run and kept the other in the condition of the previous step so I could better demonstrate how the look changed from one step to the next. The first step involved drybrushing Steel with a 0 round brush to create a metallic foundation along with the Gunmental. The metalizer provides some nice "tooth" in its finish for drybrushing and it doesn't take much to achieve the desired look.

A little closer examination:

The next step involved applying a 90/10 thinner/paint wash of Rust with a  size 1 round sable brush. The purpose of the wash is two-fold...it blends in the drybrushed Steel and also provides the first stage of oxidized metal. If applied carefully, it will allow some of the Steel to still show through but not as stark as in the drybrushed step.

The Rust wash is allowed to air dry, which doesn't take that long to accomplish, but in the process the Rust wash in combination with the metalizer undercoat takes on a truer rust looking appearance vs. just the straight paint. Once confident that it's fully dried, I used the same 0 round brush as before to drybrush Burnt Umber over the Rust to deepen the color and look.

Last step involves going back over the raised surfaces very lightly with an old worn out 20/0 detail brush and drybrush Steel to restore the worn look to those surfaces only.

A test fit on the vehicle was in order to see how they looked. The Rust still shows up more prominent at this stage than I'd like, so I'll probably give some spot attention with some black artist pastels to the too-bright areas. Also,  since the final weathering with MIG pigments hasn't happened yet this isn't the true final look, but it's progressing the way I'd like so far.

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Posted by vtrockin on Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:46 PM
Great job on those tracks....they look terrific!   And thanks for the tutorial on how to get those results.
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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:05 PM
Thanks vtrockin!
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Posted by Gun Tech on Monday, February 26, 2007 9:43 AM

 vtrockin wrote:
Great job on those tracks....they look terrific!   And thanks for the tutorial on how to get those results.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

Very nice Bill Approve [^]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Ozmodiar on Monday, February 26, 2007 10:44 AM
Looks great very impressive!

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 26, 2007 1:45 PM
GT, Jmc, appreciate the comments.
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 26, 2007 6:54 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:

 vtrockin wrote:
Great job on those tracks....they look terrific!   And thanks for the tutorial on how to get those results.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

Very nice Bill Approve [^]

I third the vote!

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:34 PM
Thanks tigerman, hope to get this one done with next weekend's efforts, have to see how far I can get with the weathering without rushing it. Wink [;)]
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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, March 1, 2007 3:42 PM

Neat!

 

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Posted by CDNTanker25 on Thursday, March 1, 2007 5:39 PM
Bill looks awesome man!! Not a must build for me, but I'm enjoying watching this build up!!!  Can't wait to see this all finished!
James on the bench: Merkava II With MCRS-20% Merkava IID 75% IDF Magach Batash
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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, March 1, 2007 9:11 PM

Rbaer, thanks for the comment!

James,

I have to admit, were it not for my personal connection back to the Char, I probably wouldn't have pursued this one either. Early war French armor doesn't have much appeal to me, but this one had just enough of a pull to draw me in. It's a beautifully engineered kit and been a lot of fun to build, glad you've enjoyed it with me so far. Wink [;)]

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Posted by biffa on Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:01 PM

Trip down memory lane,, it hasnt changed much Bill. Smile [:)]

 

 

Ron g.
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Posted by SteveM on Friday, March 2, 2007 5:21 AM

Looks great, Bill. As always, I am enjoying this thread. Almost picked one of these up at the San Antonio show, but ultimately decided to keep the spending spree in a Germanic tone.

Thanks for all the extra work involved in these SBS. I read them repeatedly, and they have helped my modeling a great deal (if I say so myselfTongue [:P]). I also learn the parts of tanks that I'm too lazy or embarrassed to ask about.

Steve 

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