"The Hunters GB" (2/1/08 to 6/1/08)

Hi TM,

Quite a list! I can see why you don't need any more Jagdpanzer IVs!

I'm leaning toward doing two builds. It'll be March before I can really get my zimmerit sorted out, so I was thinking of building the Type 89 TD first. I researched it on the web yesterday, www.sinodefense.com called it 'a dinosaur from the Cold War,' and only about 100 were built before relations between China and Russia normalised in the early 90s and the need for such a vehicle disappeared. Interested? Or is the GB meant to be WWII exclusively?

Whatever, I'll go onto the Tamiya StuG IV when I can get the AMs together, whichever configuration I settle on.

LMK,

TB379

PS: My Tamiya Japanese Type 74 just went through the paintshop, it's drying as I type this -- JGSDF Green, with lightened and darkened oversprays, my first time for this method of doing a monocolor scheme. I'm hoping to have her finished and on the shelf before Feb. 1st.

tigerman wrote:

JMart wrote: very interesting thread, I have learned a ton just from reading.. do you accept rookies? :) I am in the process of finishing my first "armor" (couple bad 1:72s for the modern armor GB), and will start my Revival artillery build soon, figure I can add another to my list... can I join in with the Tamiya 1:35 SU-85? OOB, Im just starting! Cheers :) James Would love to have you aboard. Just please hold off on building until next Friday February 1. You may wash your sprues however. Here's our tally so far: 5-Jagdpanzers IV 1-M-10 2-SU-85 1-Elefant 3-Marder III 2-SU-152 3-M-18 3-SU-100 4-StuG III 1-Achilles 3-Jagdpanthers 1-StuG IV 2-Hetzers 1-Nashorn

Tax return should arrive around the beging of February. So I am leaning towards the new tooled JagdTiger, with ModelKasten track, Aber barrel, and some suitible PE. That is unless I build my Sd.Kfz. 251/22 pretty much straight OOB To save money for another railcar fo my dio. I still have to pick up my DML sFH 18 for the Artillery group build

Mark

JMart wrote:

very interesting thread, I have learned a ton just from reading.. do you accept rookies? :) I am in the process of finishing my first "armor" (couple bad 1:72s for the modern armor GB), and will start my Revival artillery build soon, figure I can add another to my list... can I join in with the Tamiya 1:35 SU-85? OOB, Im just starting! Cheers :) James

Would love to have you aboard. Just please hold off on building until next Friday February 1. You may wash your sprues however.

Here's our tally so far:

1. 5-Jagdpanzers IV
2. 1-M-10
3. 2-SU-85
4. 1-Elefant
5. 3-Marder III
6. 2-SU-152
7. 3-M-18
8. 3-SU-100
9. 4-StuG III
10. 1-Achilles
11. 3-Jagdpanthers
12. 1-StuG IV
13. 2-Hetzers
14. 1-Nashorn

very interesting thread, I have learned a ton just from reading.. do you accept rookies? :) I am in the process of finishing my first "armor" (couple bad 1:72s for the modern armor GB), and will start my Revival artillery build soon, figure I can add another to my list... can I join in with the Tamiya 1:35 SU-85? OOB, Im just starting! Cheers :) James

tigerman wrote:

Brews wrote: Interestingly, I could model it with a Pak 35/36 with just a regular gun shield, too - if I had one in 1:76, that is (Revell make one with their ex-Matchbox Krupp Protze). I would think that would give it a lower profile (but less firepower). Did they really make that version? Do you have a pic or link?

Apparently, "a small number" was made.

Here is the link.

Brews wrote:

The 5-sided shield is from Alkett. Interestingly, I could model it with a Pak 35/36 with just a regular gun shield, too - if I had one in 1:76, that is (Revell make one with their ex-Matchbox Krupp Protze). I would think that would give it a lower profile (but less firepower).

Did they really make that version? Do you have a pic or link?

The 5-sided shield is from Alkett.

Interestingly, I could model it with a Pak 35/36 with just a regular gun shield, too - if I had one in 1:76, that is (Revell make one with their ex-Matchbox Krupp Protze). I would think that would give it a lower profile (but less firepower).

Brews wrote:

I was just perusing "Achtung Panzer", and have determined that the variant of PzJg I modelled by Fujimi comes from Skoda (in Prague?), distinguished by a 7-sided gun shield. About 3/4 of the way down the page, just under the gallery for the Befehlswagen.  11 days to go!

Yes, I recall two versions. I forget how many sides the other has. Is it five?

I was just perusing "Achtung Panzer", and have determined that the variant of PzJg I modelled by Fujimi comes from Skoda (in Prague?), distinguished by a 7-sided gun shield.

About 3/4 of the way down the page, just under the gallery for the Befehlswagen. 

11 days to go!

tigerman wrote:

MarkDunck wrote:  Glamdring wrote:  Jester75 wrote: I wonder if that Sophisticated Finish stuff is availiable at HobbyLobby as well? Looks like it would do a super nice job on exhaust! My closest Michaels is like 45 minutes away but HL is only 10. I'm sure that there is a suitable alternative if Hobby Lobby doesn't carry it.  I'm certain that Sophisticated Finishes isn't the only game in town when it comes to metalizing and rusting a paint.    Try Micheals craft store, for rust supplies. On anothrt note I am trying to decide what to build for this GB. So far my choices are a Sd.Kfz. 251/22 (which I can build the kit supplied track wokable with some TLC), a Nashorn (just found it in my kit stash Or buying a newJagdTiger, as I still can not find my older JagdTiger. Any thoughts of what is the mostlly build? As I am having trouble deciding. LOL Best Regards,               Mark What's the "mostlly " build? If your asking what I'd like to see, how about a Nashorn?

Mostly build was just a typo. I will build the Nashorn then. I have a nice after market barrel for it

Mark

Hi TM,

Yup, Cavalier, here in Aus, was my first stop -- great range, I wish they'd release more subjects! I'm hoping for a reply from them shortly re my generic sheets inquiry.

Another possible subject -- Trumpeter's modern Chinese Type 89 tank destroyer, a 120mm mount on an SP gun chassis common with the Type 83 152mm howitzer and the 122mm MBRL. The kit arrived last week. If I can sort out the paint equivalents for the tri-tone cammo it might be an interesting departure. The kit has considerable interior detail, but I'm not sure I'd have time to pursue any of that, so it'd be a hatches-closed build-up.

Best,

TB379

doc-hm3 wrote:

Hey guys I am fairly new the boards and would like to get in on this "GB" with DML's SdKfz 234/4. Are there any other guidlines for a GB other than it has to be a new build?

Refer to the first response, but not really, other than to please wait until the Feb 1 start time.

Yeah Ernest, great response so far. There are going to be some good subjects and one thing I like is artistic impression when it comes to building a similar vehicle, so no two will be alike.

Thunderbolt, Cavalier makes some great resin zimmerit.

Hi TM,

Ah, gotcha. I rather like the Aber grill set, and GMW have specials on a batch of Jagdpanther stuff... I'll see where I am re zim in the next couple of days. I have a Modelkasten Panther individual link trackset that I got from Japan many years ago, oddly enough in the same batch as the Jagdpanther and StuG IV (and the M1 upcoming in FSM!) I've never assembled a set like that, though -- never got around to it.

TB379

Thunderbolt379 wrote:

Hi TM, Tamiya AM for the Jagdpanther? (Much flicking of catalog pages...) Not finding it, not finding it...! I pulled out the old StuG IV kit and an equally old article on improving it(!) -- it might end up being this one, with zim, new tools and stowage, possibly an AM barrel, and a good paintjob. TB379

My bad. I meant AM tracks and grills. At least they had some for the Panther. I think their tracks would comply with the Jagdpanther.

Hi TM,

Tamiya AM for the Jagdpanther? (Much flicking of catalog pages...) Not finding it, not finding it...! I pulled out the old StuG IV kit and an equally old article on improving it(!) -- it might end up being this one, with zim, new tools and stowage, possibly an AM barrel, and a good paintjob.

TB379

Thunderbolt379 wrote:

Hi A571, Thanks for the info, Jagdpanther is one of my thin areas for data. I've got a feeler out for some generic zimmerit sheets that I might engineer onto one or other subject if there's nothing specific out there. Still considering new tracks or schurzen. TB379

Tamiya makes a good set of AM's for the Jagdpanther. Yes, if it is indeed a late version, then you can get away with no zim.

Hi A571,

Thanks for the info, Jagdpanther is one of my thin areas for data. I've got a feeler out for some generic zimmerit sheets that I might engineer onto one or other subject if there's nothing specific out there. Still considering new tracks or schurzen.

TB379

tigerman wrote:

First, you need to narrow your choice down. Second, I'd check www.greatmodels.com for the items you need. Zimmerit will probably be a needed addition, unless its a late version.

 I was looking at the box art scan for Tamiya 35069 jagdpanther, which is their early crummy one released after the panther A.  It was entirely dark yellow, but the barrel is a two piece version and the manlet is bolted on.  I think that pretty much makes it a late version.  The dragon early version kit with the tile pattern zim has the single piece gun barrel.  Gotta go read more on it.

Hi TM,

Wow, they have some great stuff! Thanks for the link, it's now bookmarked. Most StuG accessories seem to be for the III instead of the IV, but there's still plenty to be had. I'll look at the options for the Stug IV and the Jagdpanther and see what mix of materials I can come up with, check my references to tie down what variants I'd be tackling, and get an order off for some bits. You never know, I might end up doing both!

Cheers,

TB379

Thunderbolt379 wrote:

Hi Tigerman, I see there's been plenty of IV/L70 action in the GB prep already! Also my L70 is in a difficult part of the stash to get to, so I have either the Testor issue of Italeri's StuG IV, or Tamiya's old StuG IV or Jagdpangther to go with. I've been looking for accessories online, found a few for the L70 but not the others. Can you point me in the direction of tracks, barrels, zimmerit, grills and on-vehicle stuff for StuG IV or Jagdpanther? I don't want to spend a fortune at this point, but a few dress-up bits are always attractive. Tamiya's Panzer IV on-vehicle set sounds like a good start, and Cavalier have Jagdpanther zim, just not sure if it's for the same variant. Cheers, TB379

First, you need to narrow your choice down. Second, I'd check www.greatmodels.com for the items you need. Zimmerit will probably be a needed addition, unless its a late version.

Hi Tigerman,

I see there's been plenty of IV/L70 action in the GB prep already! Also my L70 is in a difficult part of the stash to get to, so I have either the Testor issue of Italeri's StuG IV, or Tamiya's old StuG IV or Jagdpangther to go with. I've been looking for accessories online, found a few for the L70 but not the others. Can you point me in the direction of tracks, barrels, zimmerit, grills and on-vehicle stuff for StuG IV or Jagdpanther? I don't want to spend a fortune at this point, but a few dress-up bits are always attractive. Tamiya's Panzer IV on-vehicle set sounds like a good start, and Cavalier have Jagdpanther zim, just not sure if it's for the same variant.

Cheers,

TB379

MarkDunck wrote:

Glamdring wrote:  Jester75 wrote: I wonder if that Sophisticated Finish stuff is availiable at HobbyLobby as well? Looks like it would do a super nice job on exhaust! My closest Michaels is like 45 minutes away but HL is only 10. I'm sure that there is a suitable alternative if Hobby Lobby doesn't carry it.  I'm certain that Sophisticated Finishes isn't the only game in town when it comes to metalizing and rusting a paint.    Try Micheals craft store, for rust supplies. On anothrt note I am trying to decide what to build for this GB. So far my choices are a Sd.Kfz. 251/22 (which I can build the kit supplied track wokable with some TLC), a Nashorn (just found it in my kit stash Or buying a newJagdTiger, as I still can not find my older JagdTiger. Any thoughts of what is the mostlly build? As I am having trouble deciding. LOL Best Regards,               Mark

What's the "mostlly " build? If your asking what I'd like to see, how about a Nashorn? 

Glamdring wrote:

Jester75 wrote: I wonder if that Sophisticated Finish stuff is availiable at HobbyLobby as well? Looks like it would do a super nice job on exhaust! My closest Michaels is like 45 minutes away but HL is only 10. I'm sure that there is a suitable alternative if Hobby Lobby doesn't carry it.  I'm certain that Sophisticated Finishes isn't the only game in town when it comes to metalizing and rusting a paint.

Try Micheals craft store, for rust supplies.

On anothrt note I am trying to decide what to build for this GB. So far my choices are a Sd.Kfz. 251/22 (which I can build the kit supplied track wokable with some TLC), a Nashorn (just found it in my kit stash Or buying a newJagdTiger, as I still can not find my older JagdTiger. Any thoughts of what is the mostlly build? As I am having trouble deciding. LOL

Best Regards,

              Mark