FINISHED PICS! "Bigfoot Brummbar"

dupes wrote:

Wow Doog, VERY cool. Know you've been slaving away on this one for quite a while, certainly worth the time! Brings up a question I've been meaning to ask you - any changes that need to be made to the oil dot method when using it over zim? I've got a Panther A in the works and I've been wondering what I would need to do differently (if anything) so as not to have oil paint all over the place?

Bodge--thanks for the compliments! 

SMJ--I've actually done the identical tank in the exact same camo scheme! Looks fine to me! 

doog and dupes: (great name for a rock band or a kids cartoon, by the way):  I'd like to add some more tips on that oil dot wash technique.  I started with a medium wet brush and then stippled/swirled the dots on each camo' color separately, cleaning the brush before moving to the other color(s).  I also did areas that would be in "shadow", see my photo of the underside of hull, with a clean brush too.  Do this a couple-few times, adding more thinner to the brush on each pass.  This keeps the accent oil dots concentrated within the borders of the camo' colors.  Then, let it dry a bit, NOT completely...be careful, it dries very fast.  The LAST pass is a "full lather" of the whole model with a pretty wet brush, but don't lather so much that the oil smears totally "disappear", those high chroma areas come in handy later (see "color accents" section of my tutorial for more info).  When the colors dry the chroma goes way down and the usual washes will tone it down too.  I think this technique is a gutsy way of adding depth to the colors without relying solely on the traditional washes...

One last thing, my oil color dot selection wasn't random,(doog, didn't you use a wide variety of colors more randomly? I kind of recall that from the Hetzer toot')  I specifically chose colors based on the location I was placing them, if you care to have me expand on that, unless doog doesn't mind it here on his thread, I'll post a PM or something, let me know.

SMJmodeler

Doog.

Love the build and I love all the info in it (thanks Bill!). 

Hey Doog, another masterpiece! The work you've put into this really shows, it's beautiful. I think I especially like the wear on the dust coat. Subtle and very realistic. Did you use red oxide primer for the metal showing in the chipped Zimm?

Sorry I haven't posted up on this earlier, it's been a nightmare at the shop lately so I haven't had much free time.

Dale 

SMJmodeler wrote:

doog and dupes: (great name for a rock band or a kids cartoon, by the way)

HAAAAAAAaaaaahahahha...too funny!

Now that I go back, I definitely see what you mean about the "non-random" placement of the oil dots. Interesting technique. BTW, you're starting to scare me with terms like "chroma". This is getting to be "real" art when you drag that stuff into the equation!

Good looking paint on that model, Doog.

I especially appreciate the step by step with pics and text.

Very helpful.  

Dale, IA novice and Sprue One--thanks guys, I appreciate the 'S! Thank you!

dupes and SMJ--I actually disagree with the need to "plan" the dots and the oil dispersion--this is "over-thinking" it, in my opinion. (what???--SMJ over-thinking a weathering step??? ) 

Seriously, here's a shot of mine right before I commenced the messin'. ALL of these colors are going to just be randomly swept into a harmonious glaze of the most subtle filters; you DON'T want to have any kind of approach that "plans" any color variations with anything approaching a predictable result or a methodical application of one specific shade over a particular base color, because you're really defeating the whole purpose of the "random yet all-encompassing" chromaticism of color filters. 

Also, SMJ,--you're really rather defeating the purpose and intent of this method by applying similar colors over similar base colors--green over green, browns over browns, etc--you should be putting blues, red, orange, white, yellow--PRIMARY colors, not necessarily complex purples or subtle green-over-green. The red and blue will give you subtle purple shades, and the other colors provide subtle, almost-imperceptible tints over the base coat that provide the depth; simply altering the base with like-colors is missing the objective here.

Nice work. I think you pulled it off well. I'm not really sure about the scratching using the base colours, particularily on top of the hull, some of those look fairly large. I tried several times to use very light colour washes, but found that the technique works better if you still apply a typical dark brown wash, then when fully dry apply a very very thin dust shade wash. It gets a great looking overall dusty finish.

zokissima wrote:

Nice work. I think you pulled it off well. I'm not really sure about the scratching using the base colours, particularily on top of the hull, some of those look fairly large. I tried several times to use very light colour washes, but found that the technique works better if you still apply a typical dark brown wash, then when fully dry apply a very very thin dust shade wash. It gets a great looking overall dusty finish.

the doog wrote:

zokissima wrote: Nice work. I think you pulled it off well. I'm not really sure about the scratching using the base colours, particularily on top of the hull, some of those look fairly large. I tried several times to use very light colour washes, but found that the technique works better if you still apply a typical dark brown wash, then when fully dry apply a very very thin dust shade wash. It gets a great looking overall dusty finish. Thanks, zokissima--the scratching with the base colors would be appropriate for say, shoe-scuffing as a crewman walked on top of the vehicle, or even knelt to retrieve something from ground level? It's intended to show wear through the simple later of dust--entirely superficial, not something that is actually scoring the base paint.

It's a great effect.

the doog wrote:

what a piece of junk...don't they know about preventative maintiance?

another beautiful job DOOG please send me a small amount of your talent

Would you accept an "atta-boy" comment on this one?

Cause there is nothing else I can say but GREAT JOB!

Sorry, I don't think you can get any comment of historical importance from an OOB Builder like me. But I do know how to appreciate a job very well done.

dostacos and Dwight--thanks, guys; I appreciate you taking the time to comment!

biffa--thanks, man--hey if you "borrow" my "scuffing" it will be just one "payback" for the many great techniques that I've learned from you along the way! (Hell of a job on that T-34!) Thanks for the compliments!