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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:11 PM

Excellent, a well deserved thumds up. I love the use of primer red. I will say that I've seen the red go from a real gloss red to an almost brown. Using this red as a base colour for your camo makes an excellent balance.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:14 PM
Hard-edged three tone camo with the pz gray in place of the green and use of the ambush spots is a winner IMHO. Such a massive beast, the addition of the lighter yellow in the ratio you have it is just enough to set it alive I think. Going to look great once you weather it. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:47 PM

Thanks guys, for taking the time to comment; I appreciate the appreciation of the paint job, as well as the criticism!

I actually agree that there was something compelling about the two-yone scheme; even the basic primer red was pretty unique too. I guess I just couldn't "feel" the whole tank like that--maybe because it's so unique, and so BIG! I probably WILL do some late-model tank in overall primer red; maybe one of the other smaller E series?

I like the whole "land battleship" look of it, with all the gun barrels sticking out of it! I'll be working on some weathering the next few days and I'll have some more pics up by the weekend!  

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:13 PM

Personally never liked the polka dot camo but you pull it off well. Very nice. Thank god for silly putty Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] 

Have fun with the tracks. (knitting for the armor modeler) Confused [%-)]

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:36 PM
Stunning paint job. I like the subtle shades. Gonna be one of your best to date.

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 Eric 

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:26 PM

 Well, I have to admit, if ever there was an alternate 3 color camouflage then this would be it. Just a beauty of a job.The image “http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/DianneOnly/clap2.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

And you haven't finished it yet. 

 It's handsome and intimidating on such a huge hunkajunk. Kind of a "Hitler The image “http://www.ostcode.de/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_addi2.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. Special" paint job....

  .....like being his slick mobile super-bunker for a heroic (notThe image “http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e374/diantach/smiles/zombie_bullet.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.gonnaThe image “http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e374/diantach/smiles/zombie_smiley.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.happen) escape party.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by the doog on Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:16 AM
 disastermaster wrote:

 Well, I have to admit, if ever there was an alternate 3 color camouflage then this would be it. Just a beauty of a job.The image “http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/DianneOnly/clap2.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

And you haven't finished it yet. 

 It's handsome and intimidating on such a huge hunkajunk. Kind of a "Hitler The image “http://www.ostcode.de/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_addi2.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. Special" paint job....

  .....like being his slick mobile super-bunker for a heroic (notThe image “http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e374/diantach/smiles/zombie_bullet.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.gonnaThe image “http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e374/diantach/smiles/zombie_smiley.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.happen) escape party.

Steve, you are just having too much fun with your Smileys! LOL! Laugh [(-D]

Thanks for the comment!  

YOu too Mike, and Tigerman! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by panzerguy on Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:17 AM

 

  doog,OUTSTANDING!Bow [bow] Can't wait to see this when you'r finished.Could you take a pic with you'r Hetzer next too it,love to see the size difference between the two. 

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by acmodeler01 on Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:00 AM

I am in agreement with redleg: I too have never been a fan of the ambush schemes, but you made it look great. Very subtle shading, which will only be enhanced with weathering. Good job.

One thing I did notice, the loader's hatch (right top of the turret) looks like the colors should be reversed: it looks like the camo was applied while the hatch was open. Maybe it is supposed to be that way, but it seemed odd to me.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:06 AM
 acmodeler01 wrote:

I am in agreement with redleg: I too have never been a fan of the ambush schemes, but you made it look great. Very subtle shading, which will only be enhanced with weathering. Good job.

One thing I did notice, the loader's hatch (right top of the turret) looks like the colors should be reversed: it looks like the camo was applied while the hatch was open. Maybe it is supposed to be that way, but it seemed odd to me.

A great observation, acmodeler!!! Very astute reasoning!!!

I will have to rectify that!  

ANd I will take a photo next to the Hetzer, panzerguy!!! I'll bet it will be a fun photo!

Thanks for weighing in, guys!! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Townsy11 on Monday, March 17, 2008 9:24 PM

Are you still going to put tracks on it?

Just wondering because the title says "finished" yet, no tracks?

 

EDIT: just realised, sorry it says "camo finished" my bad.Propeller [8-]

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, March 17, 2008 9:28 PM
 Townsy11 wrote:

Are you still going to put tracks on it?

Just wondering because the title says "finished" yet, no tracks?

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I think he misfired... 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, March 17, 2008 11:12 PM

Steve, your Smileys rock my world! Tongue [:P]

I'm almost done!! Shock [:O].....just had to get the color for the IR unit correct, and finish up the weathering! 

I should have pics later on Tuesday evening! (If I don't totally screw it up! Whistling [:-^] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg])

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Well, here it is--the corrected DML E-100. I finaly finished it, thanks to some good info and help from some of you guys who helped out with info on the IR set on the front hull. I had a difficult time deciding whether to paint it with a red tint or blue; with apologies to granddadjohn, I finally decided to go with Kykeon's photo which seemed to corroborate the other evidence from the PanzerMuseum at Munster. Thanks to all of you though for weighing in, as well as everyone else who helped me through this build! Big Smile [:D]

Here's the shots---Tamiya Acrylics used (as usual), with oil washes and filters ( I did do a very mild "dot" method on this tank) and MIG powders for weathering. Sorry, dial up guys!  Whistling [:-^]

Here you can see the added rear hull lips right above the rear idler wheel, missing from the kit, as it's designed to be displayed with the big sideskirts. I just couldn't see them wearing them in city fighting--it'd be like driving a house through the rubble? 

...as I said, the IR set gave me fits trying to decide the right color. I decided on a bluish-black tint which seemed to match photos. I figure most modelers would see the photos first before they might actually talk to someone who has worked with them, and that would be taken as the "standard"? I may be wrong, but I'm happy with the look......Blush [:I]

I thought this might be what a shell hit on a spare track might look like?   

...all the tools I added to the rear deck...

...and the gray primer I chose for the gun..it's panzer gray with washes and filters of white, olive green, and white...

A size comparison, for those who asked,,,,"Out of the way, Sherm-doog!" LOL! (Sorry--the Hetzer is secured to it's base and couldn't come out to play! Sad [:(])

Hans and Franz, totally "pumped up" after trading the Field Kitchen cart for their new ride! Tongue [:P]

Well, let me know what you think? I know it's a bit "conceptual" but I figured that I had a fair degree of latitude in deciding what might plausibly be added to this "paper panzer"? 

Comments and questions always welcomed and appreciated!! Big Smile [:D]           Big Smile [:D]          Big Smile [:D]             Big Smile [:D]                Big Smile [:D]             Big Smile [:D]                   Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:23 PM

 

   What do I think!? I think this is one of the coolest thing's I've seen in a while and maybe one of you'r best you DOOG!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:49 PM
I like it a lot. The idea of very late war "hurry up and paint it" is very convincing. It's also a very imposing tank.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by IA Novice on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:57 PM

Very nice build Doog.  I especially like how you engaged everyone in thet "what if" of how it might be painted and what would be on it.  Great discussions!!  (and as usual your fine technique and high level of perfection, despite it's annoying regularity Wink [;)], is evident throughout).

 

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Posted by steelrudi on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:01 PM
Doog!  I think you have really out done yourself on this one!  Magnificent!  Awesome!  Outstanding! Great! Etc...Etc...  This is one for the books if I ever have seen one.  I too believe this is one of your best.  Again, WOW!
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Posted by dostacos on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:13 PM

to quote Moriarty "it's a piece of JUNK!, the fuel system leaks all over..."

but another beautiful job doog, Hans and Franz are not big on preventative maintaince are they Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:14 PM
Some fine work, doog...your level of weathering on this one is just about right for my taste...although I did prefer the two-tone camo of oxide and grey, I must say that once this scheme was toned down with the weathering process it is indeed a handsome one...Imagine this thing turning a corner in Berlin and coming face-to-face with a JS II or SU 152 !!! Who would flinch first!?!
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Posted by Circuitrider on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:39 PM
Man, that is cool, Doog!  Exquisite work.  I swear I can hear Hanz und Franz yelling something about the "flabby buns" on that Sherman!    Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:52 PM

Ah nuts... now I want one of those too.  hey, since your s is so gorgeous...Can I have it?Whistling [:-^]

Hmmm Yeah... I dodn't think so to be honest Thumbs Up [tup]

Marc  

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Posted by Townsy11 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:45 PM

WOW....Just stunning.... Probably your best yet Doog! I love the whole "battle weary" look, Especially the shell hit on the spare track links! and the fact that you even added the pins in the spare tracks! Outstanding! Can't wait to see what Hanz & Franz get into next!

Chris,

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by panzer88 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:41 PM
Beautiful build Doog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow] Truly awesome, Hans and Franz give a sense of just how imposing and huge this thing was. Great job!!!

     

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Posted by Geist on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:56 PM
Doog, that looks amazing. The whole "What if?" factor is totaly convincing with the added parts. Great job as always.

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:57 PM

Very nice piece of work Doog! Thumbs Up [tup]

My only comment is about the spare track/shell hit and it's just information only, take it for what it's worth. Tank track aren't hardened steel in the sense that armor plate is and the fact that they are connected only by a rod pin to each other and to the spare track holder would dictate how they would behave if struck by a high velocity round. This would mean that any sort of hit to them would not leave one link in place/intact and the other splattered as you have depicted. Assuming it was an AP round and not HE or HEAT, it would've penetrated easily through the link and continued to attempt to penetrate the hull due to the kinetic energy at work. For the idea to work, I would think that you would be much more likely to have a torn away hanger, no links present, and a prominent scar on the hull as a result. Just my My 2 cents [2c]. The idea is a great one and very creative.  

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:29 PM

Karl

As usual it is outstanding. I'm sure Hanze and Franze are happy with their latest vehicle. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

The details of battle damage are excellent. The hit on the track looks great. Now the next question....what scene are you going to create for Hanze and Franze and their new wheels!!

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:24 PM

Thanks a million, guys! I'm happpy to see you all approve; this project was a little scary, as it is so subjective, but I'm happy to recieve all your kind comments!

Thanks to panzerguy, RBaer, IA novice, and steelrudi, for the thumbs ups! 

dostacos--that's not fuel leaking on the back deck; it's soup! LOL! Laugh [(-D] THANKS!

Manny--thanks for the vote of approval! I hear you about the gray and primer; it WAS compelling, but I just couldn't feel it this time around....I agree though, that a dio with a Russian tank in it would be awesome! (I just wouldn't have anywhere to put it with the size of this beast!)

Circuitrider--man, I laughed out loud at that comment about the "flabby buns"! LOL! I remember quite a few skits where they would use that term! Talk about cracking me up! Laugh [(-D] Thanks for the comment and the laugh!

wing_nut---sure, just drop a check in the mail for like, .........hmmm....naw! This is as close to my "kids" as I'll ever get! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Get one while they're still available! Thanks for the compliments!

townsy11, Geist, and panzer88--thanks a lot guys, for the kind words! Smile [:)]

wbill76--Thanks for that info, Bill; I was afraid of that, and kinda wishy-washy on adding that track link....but the more I thought about it, I kinda looked at it like this is a hypothetically-portrayed tank, in a hypothetical configuration and in a camo scheme of the same, so so much of it is subjective "Art" that I thought that the shattered link just kinda fit into the whole "Hollywood" impression of it---does that make sense?! It seems to have made the impression here that I was hoping it would...I do appreciate the comment though; I didn't really know that with veracity. It'll be a good thing to know when I'm building a "real" tank that I want to "hyper-accurize". Thanks! Big Smile [:D]

redleg12 and agentg--as I said to Manny, a dio would be cool, but far too big for my cases here! 

The beast has a BOSE system of course! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Laugh [(-D]

Again, thanks a lot guys, for all the comments and compliments! It's a nice feeling to take into the awful task of cleaning up the workbench now... Sigh [sigh]

On to the next build! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:42 PM
 the doog wrote:

Thanks a million, guys! I'm happpy to see you all approve; this project was a little scary, as it is so subjective, but I'm happy to recieve all your kind comments!

Thanks to panzerguy, RBaer, IA novice, and steelrudi, for the thumbs ups! 

dostacos--that's not fuel leaking on the back deck; it's soup! LOL! Laugh [(-D] THANKS!

Manny--thanks for the vote of approval! I hear you about the gray and primer; it WAS compelling, but I just couldn't feel it this time around....I agree though, that a dio with a Russian tank in it would be awesome! (I just wouldn't have anywhere to put it with the size of this beast!)

Circuitrider--man, I laughed out loud at that comment about the "flabby buns"! LOL! I remember quite a few skits where they would use that term! Talk about cracking me up! Laugh [(-D] Thanks for the comment and the laugh!

wing_nut---sure, just drop a check in the mail for like, .........hmmm....naw! This is as close to my "kids" as I'll ever get! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Get one while they're still available! Thanks for the compliments!

townsy11, Geist, and panzer88--thanks a lot guys, for the kind words! Smile [:)]

wbill76--Thanks for that info, Bill; I was afraid of that, and kinda wishy-washy on adding that track link....but the more I thought about it, I kinda looked at it like this is a hypothetically-portrayed tank, in a hypothetical configuration and in a camo scheme of the same, so so much of it is subjective "Art" that I thought that the shattered link just kinda fit into the whole "Hollywood" impression of it---does that make sense?! It seems to have made the impression here that I was hoping it would...I do appreciate the comment though; I didn't really know that with veracity. It'll be a good thing to know when I'm building a "real" tank that I want to "hyper-accurize". Thanks! Big Smile [:D]

redleg12 and agentg--as I said to Manny, a dio would be cool, but far too big for my cases here! 

The beast has a BOSE system of course! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Laugh [(-D]

Again, thanks a lot guys, for all the comments and compliments! It's a nice feeling to take into the awful task of cleaning up the workbench now... Sigh [sigh]

On to the next build! Big Smile [:D]

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An absolutely beautiful rendition of what could have been.

                                                                       Steve
 

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:54 PM
 the doog wrote:

wbill76--Thanks for that info, Bill; I was afraid of that, and kinda wishy-washy on adding that track link....but the more I thought about it, I kinda looked at it like this is a hypothetically-portrayed tank, in a hypothetical configuration and in a camo scheme of the same, so so much of it is subjective "Art" that I thought that the shattered link just kinda fit into the whole "Hollywood" impression of it---does that make sense?! It seems to have made the impression here that I was hoping it would...I do appreciate the comment though; I didn't really know that with veracity. It'll be a good thing to know when I'm building a "real" tank that I want to "hyper-accurize". Thanks! Big Smile [:D]

No worries doog, just information as I mentioned. I think you captured the "what-if" aspects of this build from start to finish extremely well. The splattered look definitely stays with you and is a very creative touch to the overall look. I can just imagine the headache for Hans and Franz after that impact...or maybe it didn't even register given the massivity of the beast? Wink [;)]

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