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Posted by artworks2 on Friday, March 16, 2012 6:22 PM

Aadil,

       I've never been in the paper,wish we could see clearer as the models look really neat. Your culture has a long history of being craftsman 1000's of years longer than ours I'm sure your models are awsome.

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Posted by artworks2 on Friday, March 16, 2012 11:22 PM

You guys can goto Solid model memories and meet with some guys who live this hobby. All credible model makers

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 16, 2012 11:35 PM

Wow guys that's some work!!!

I picked the aircraft I posted because it didn't look too difficult not having many complex curves.

But gee, Artworks, Buddho, and Aadil those are incredible. I can see it took years of practice and quite a bit of talent to get to the point of doing stuff that complex.

If I can do something simple I'll be more than happy.

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by artworks2 on Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:29 AM

Hi Cliff,

         I'm here to help in any way I can. I could build up a model of your choice and walk you through it. I think Buddho damn good is a machinist. I'll post photos of your subject for you next week......Al of spokane Wa

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Posted by aadildesai on Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:18 AM

Hi Al,

Well, the picture also has a few of my plastic kit models included. This was the picture the photographer from the newspaper took and made me look ridiculous with most of the models out of focus!!! Will post some new pics of my models someday soon.

Cheers,

Aadil.

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Posted by aadildesai on Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:22 AM

Gamera

But gee, Artworks, Buddho, and Aadil those are incredible. I can see it took years of practice and quite a bit of talent to get to the point of doing stuff that complex.

Cliff

Hi Cliff,

Thanks for your good words, very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Aadil.

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Posted by artworks2 on Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:27 PM

artworks2

Hi Cliff,

         I'm here to help in any way I can. I could build up a model of your choice and walk you through it. I think Buddho damn good is a machinist. I'll post photos of your subject for you next week......Al of spokane Wa

Hi Cliff,

          I worked up the templates today and may have the models parts done sometime Sunday. The model measures 13 and a half inches long with a wing span of 33 inches tip to tip, The horizontal stabilizer is 11 and a half inches wide. Once the parts are all fabricated will give you a better sence of how big it actually is. Gotta look at the paint graphics to see if I like them otherwise it will be RedBull....Have a good weekend Al of Spokane Wa

 

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Posted by artworks2 on Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:33 PM

aadildesai

Hi Al,

Well, the picture also has a few of my plastic kit models included. This was the picture the photographer from the newspaper took and made me look ridiculous with most of the models out of focus!!! Will post some new pics of my models someday soon.

Cheers,

Aadil.

Hello to You Aadil.

                            Not to worry about the photos show when your ready. How the weather where you are? Take care Aadil.  Al of Spokane Wa

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:19 PM

artworks2

 

 artworks2:

 

Hi Cliff,

         I'm here to help in any way I can. I could build up a model of your choice and walk you through it. I think Buddho damn good is a machinist. I'll post photos of your subject for you next week......Al of spokane Wa

 

 

Hi Cliff,

          I worked up the templates today and may have the models parts done sometime Sunday. The model measures 13 and a half inches long with a wing span of 33 inches tip to tip, The horizontal stabilizer is 11 and a half inches wide. Once the parts are all fabricated will give you a better sence of how big it actually is. Gotta look at the paint graphics to see if I like them otherwise it will be RedBull....Have a good weekend Al of Spokane Wa

 

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Al: That's awesome! But you don't have to do all that! I may give it a try sometime but as I said I'm loaded up with stuff right now so it may have to wait until later this year.

Thanks!

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by artworks2 on Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:05 PM

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artworks2:

 

artworks2:

 

Hi Cliff,

         I'm here to help in any way I can. I could build up a model of your choice and walk you through it. I think Buddho damn good is a machinist. I'll post photos of your subject for you next week......Al of spokane Wa

 

 

Hi Cliff,

          I worked up the templates today and may have the models parts done sometime Sunday. The model measures 13 and a half inches long with a wing span of 33 inches tip to tip, The horizontal stabilizer is 11 and a half inches wide. Once the parts are all fabricated will give you a better sence of how big it actually is. Gotta look at the paint graphics to see if I like them otherwise it will be RedBull....Have a good weekend Al of Spokane Wa

 

.http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y342/ArtworksIII/f75464d95909.jpg?t=1332022329

 

Al: That's awesome! But you don't have to do all that! I may give it a try sometime but as I said I'm loaded up with stuff right now so it may have to wait until later this year.

Thanks!

Cliff

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I'm sure theres really no problem Cliff,

   It's part of the thread also when one makes a claim in this (forum wide) you kind of have to follow through.In refrence to is there an intrest here is the name of the thread so I'll try to keep things intresing. I've been prototyping for 22 years and am here to premote an old way of modeling. So Ask questions show your work. Do visit ,but most of all get inspired........ Cheers! Al of Spokane WA

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Posted by aadildesai on Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:00 PM

artworks2

 

 

                            Not to worry about the photos show when your ready. How the weather where you are? Take care Aadil.  Al of Spokane Wa

Hi Al,

Sure will post them later on. The weather out here is pretty sunny and hot!!! What about your city?

Cheers,

Aadil.

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Posted by artworks2 on Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:09 PM

Aadil,

       I live in the Pacificnorthwest near Canada we're normal Rain 40's and dreary. Great hobbist weather. Spring begins on Monday Al of Spokane Wa

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Posted by aadildesai on Monday, March 19, 2012 1:19 PM

Hi Al,

Well, that makes sense, when you can't go outdoors you make lots of good stuff indoors!!!

Cheers,

Aadil.

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Posted by artworks2 on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:18 PM

What did the  Japanese use the J4M1 for? They didn't use it  to bomb Preal Harbor. Was it a concept or what? They did put some strange comoflauge paintschemes on them. I think we'll do a RedBull scheme as I'm not into Military paint too much. I took a day away from This model to work on another. Believe me I'm never bored building models from wood.

Recently I was able to find some popler for up comming projects.

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Posted by artworks2 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:25 PM

If I'm maintaining intrest in my craft I can drop many different types of aircraft into this forum and still have exactly the same process to achieve each not matter if it's a helicopter of an airliner.

To Re cap:

1 Set of line  Drawings

2 Make templates to size

3 Fabricate parts

4 Assemble model

5 Carve

6 Find a suitable paint scheme Untitled

This model is 30 inches long.6 inches wide....

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Posted by artworks2 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:44 PM

Another angle of this model .In order to set the windows in place a second set of templates are made and set inplace prior to carving the model. This insures that every thing is level and it is without a doubt a must do step.Untitled

A stilus was used on this model to generate a 3d model still being used on the internet today. Some time I'll paint this one in a razzle dazzle scheme. Al  of Spokane Wa

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:50 PM

artworks2

What did the  Japanese use the J4M1 for? They didn't use it  to bomb Preal Harbor. Was it a concept or what? They did put some strange comoflauge paintschemes on them. I think we'll do a RedBull scheme as I'm not into Military paint too much. I took a day away from This model to work on another. Believe me I'm never bored building models from wood.

Recently I was able to find some popler for up comming projects.

Al,

The J4M1 was an X-plane, never built. I thought I saw some photos of a plywood mock-up but doing more research it never got that far. It only existed as a blueprint. I grabbed it since it looked like it would be easier to carve than some of the more complex designs.

Here's a website with more information and some good 3D drawings. I'll have to print those out when I start.

www.j-aircraft.org/xplanes/

It's under navy aircraft. Sorry, the site won't let me direct-link. Sad

Cliff

BTW: Great looking chopper! Yes

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Posted by artworks2 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:14 PM

Thanks Gamera,

                        The J4M1 is a challange from the engineering stand point. I try to build a structure that can be dropped on the floor with out rebuilding it. Doing some spring cleaning on my days off...Untitled

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Posted by artworks2 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:21 PM

Sometime in the year I wish to supply a client pilot with a model of thisUntitled

They use to call it a Jolly Green Giant. I'll post photos of the civilian version from Carson Helicopters....

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Posted by artworks2 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:40 PM

Carson Pilots fly some of the oldest airframes. They also have very few accidents inspite of such old helicopters.Untitled

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Posted by artworks2 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:27 PM

Gamera,

             Since I'm working on a twinn boom I thought I might post this one too. Adam technologies is going through Bankruptsy so line drawings are on the net now.  Untitled

This actually ended up like the learfan with only afew examples sold. Learfand never made it past prototype.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 23, 2012 11:47 AM

artworks2

Gamera,

             Since I'm working on a twinn boom I thought I might post this one too. Adam technologies is going through Bankruptsy so line drawings are on the net now.  http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y342/ArtworksIII/7965ea5bcaab.jpg?t=1332472733

This actually ended up like the learfan with only afew examples sold. Learfand never made it past prototype.

Al,

That does look quite simular - like the crazy twin engine design. Btw- love the Red Bull Racing idea too!

Really nice work on those choppers- seems like carving the complex curves would be the hardest part- well other than making sure everything is symmetrical. One question, so a harder wood like basswood is best? Wouldn't something softer like pine be easier? Or won't it hold detail?

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Posted by aadildesai on Friday, March 23, 2012 2:02 PM

Hi Cliff,

That's a lovely link you've suggested for the Japanese site. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

Aadil.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 23, 2012 2:13 PM

Aadil,

Thanks, lots of strange looking planes that never got built.

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by artworks2 on Friday, March 23, 2012 6:30 PM

Gamera I use any wood that I can get cheap. The Gazzle was a subfloor in an old house for 100 years. I've never used hard woods many companies will tell us that mahogany is the gold standard for model carving. But if you have sharp enough gouges or in my case rough out with a carbide bit It is personal preferance as to the wood a modeler uses. I use pine as it fills well if you do a mistake. The popler will cure and find it's way into a weather vane. I'm almost ready to post some photos next week hopefully... Yep I'll be bappy with the RedBull motife....

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 23, 2012 7:01 PM

Al, thanks!

There's a furniture plant near here, they've let me have scraps before so I'll see if they'll let me scavenge something when I get started.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by artworks2 on Saturday, March 24, 2012 3:34 PM

Yep anywhere you can find free materials is all the better for your model. I'd have to say that making models of wood is only limmited by your tastes "be it military or civilian,or home builts. Drawings are out there if your willing to look.

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Posted by 7474 on Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:04 PM

I'm wanting to build the Sea Duck from the Cartoon series "Tail Spin" and in another post some one supplied a three view drawing. my question is how can I get the curvature correct for the airplane? Should I rough cut the outline and using a file and sand paper, carve until it looks correct?

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:00 AM

artworks2

Gamera I use any wood that I can get cheap. The Gazzle was a subfloor in an old house for 100 years. I've never used hard woods many companies will tell us that mahogany is the gold standard for model carving. But if you have sharp enough gouges or in my case rough out with a carbide bit It is personal preferance as to the wood a modeler uses. I use pine as it fills well if you do a mistake. The popler will cure and find it's way into a weather vane. I'm almost ready to post some photos next week hopefully... Yep I'll be bappy with the RedBull motife....

I have used mahogany for wood carving, just not for models.  It is a good carving wood but I find it too hard to finish compared to basswood.  Basswood, to me, is God's gift to wood carvers. If it is a large model, like a large ship I will look for something cheaper, like aspen or poplar.  But most airplanes I do are small enough I hold out for basswood.  The cost of the wood is a bargain these days compared to Tamiya or Trumpeter kits.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by artworks2 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:11 PM

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I rough cut the form then concentrate on refrence photos.If at all possibe photos from alot of different angles. Post some photos if you want...

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