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1:72 Piaggio P.180 Avanti Polish Air Ambulance - Finished Page 2!

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  • Member since
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  • From: Poland
1:72 Piaggio P.180 Avanti Polish Air Ambulance - Finished Page 2!
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, March 19, 2022 1:22 PM

Hello!

Some time ago I started building this kit:

I wanted to build an aircraft flying frequently over my home, and as it happened Caracal made a decal sheet showing exactly what I wanted:

I specifically mean the second option - Polish Air Ambulance.

I have this build going for quite a long time now - but in the meantime there was a move, job change and other things so I decided to post now the build got some momentum again.

I started with the hull halves. I decided the windows aren't going to fit, so I cut out two elongated openings, one in each hull side and put a bent clear sheet i every of them. Then I filled and sanded the joints and put appropriate masks on them. Here's how it looks like now:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

I also started to work on the cabin interior and I had to convert it to an air ambulance variant:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

One more area where this kit is showing it's short-runneness badly are the engines. I already rescribed some of the panel lines:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

I have also modified the propeller bearings by installing custom made poly-cap "casettes" to get an option of painting the propellers separatetely and installing them at the very end. Here's how such a "casette" looks like - there's a poly-cap inside, just like in a Hasegawa kit!

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day!

Paweł

 

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Saturday, March 19, 2022 2:29 PM

The Avanti is a really weird looking airplane.  Great to see you tackling this kit!  I look forward to seeing your window solution upon completion.  I have read people mask off the exterior and fill the openings with UV cure resin.  I have a bunch of oddball civilian aircraft kits, including the Avanti, and will give it a try.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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  • From: Twin cities, MN
Posted by missileman2000 on Sunday, March 20, 2022 11:34 AM

I didn't know Amodel kitted that.  Is it still available?

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, March 20, 2022 1:31 PM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

Real G - I didn't have that resin, but I did have that transparent sheet (Vivak). I think it turned out all right, but I will know for sure when I remove the masks.

Don - I just checked the shops arond here, but the Avanti is sold out.. The last one was for sale end of January. But there's one for trade&swap on scalemates:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/amodel-72301-piaggio-p180-avanti--942319

Maybe you can grab that. Or buy the Hammerhead drone and convert it?

Problem is A-Model is, as far as I know, a Russian company - that's a probem nowadays...

Thanks a lot for your comments and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Real G on Sunday, March 20, 2022 2:23 PM

Pawel,

I think the Amodel/Modelsvit consortium is located in Ukraine, so even more concerning.

My go-to online Ukraine shop HobbyTerra is not shipping at this time for obvious reasons.

Assuming their facilities survive, they have consitently reissued kits from their catalog.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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    January 2020
Posted by Space Ranger on Sunday, March 20, 2022 9:19 PM

How do you make those poly-caps? That's a great idea!

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, March 21, 2022 11:05 PM

Nice work Pawel.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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    February 2011
Posted by knox on Tuesday, March 22, 2022 6:36 PM

That’s a cool looking airplane. Will be fun to see it come together and painted.  When I was in New Guinea, my Mom and I flew on a 1970’s era Piaggio.  As a kid, I thought the rear facing engines were great.  

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    March 2022
  • From: Twin cities, MN
Posted by missileman2000 on Thursday, March 31, 2022 8:09 AM

I found the kit on Amazon, it arrived already.  Gazing through box, it looks like a great kit.

I am a big canard fan.  Was building a Vari-Eze till my wife learned what the engine cost!  Sold kit for more than I paid for it, so came out okay.  Met Burt Rutan three or four times.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 4, 2022 6:41 PM

Cool project, Don. Will be watching.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Friday, April 8, 2022 5:57 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

Space Ranger - unfortunately I don't have the photos, but I started with a fret of unused poly-caps - I believe they came from a Sherman tank model. I also took an unguided rocket launcher pod off a 1:72 Matchbox Cobra clone for a tube and some styrene sheet. Using a battery powered drill for a lathe I cut the tube (ex-launcher) square, then glued a piece of styrene sheet, and after the glue dried still using the "lathe" I drilled the first hole and sanded the styrene face round, flush with the tube. Then I cut a slice of the tube together with the styrene sheet face, put one poly-cap inside and glued on anotherpiece of sheet styrene. Again, using my "lathe" I drilled another hole and sanded the second styrene face round after the glue dried. I hope this description gives you some idea...

Don - I'm glad you were able to buy your kit, I have the feeling the are slowly getting rare... Looking forward to your build!

And my build is going on slow. I got a bunch of photos of the ambulance interior from my Polish colleagues and I tried to show some details of the interior hoping that at least a bit of it would be visible through the windows... Here's what I got so far:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I'm concentrating on the other side of the aisle, the one with the stretchers. I want to wrap up the hull and do some construction and painting at last!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, September 3, 2023 10:59 AM

Hello everybody!

A zombie thread reporting from the shelf of doom here! Let's see if I'll be successful respawning this one on the third time!

I kinda got hung up on making the interior for this one, but recently something clicked and I say I have it finished. Currently the interior looks like this:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

I think I'll close up the hull now and equip the cockpit before installing the windshield.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Monday, September 4, 2023 12:19 PM

Pawel, I love zombie threads.  And I love what you have done with the Piaggio's interior!  I hope some of your meticulous work will be visible after the fuselage is closed up.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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    February 2020
Posted by PhilliePhan79 on Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 PM

Fantastic interior.  Pictures will provide proof of how detailed she is once sealed up.   Great modelling subject.  Wouldn't mind adding one to my collection.  

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 2:35 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your comments and sorry it took me so long to answer.

Real G - thanks a lot for your kind words! I have modified the original kit to have the cabin door open, this will hopefully leave something to be seen.

PhilliePhan79 - Thanks a lot! Like I wrote, she wont be sealed up 100% tight, but it might be that some things will only be seen in the photos...

And in the meantime I finally glued the fuselage halves, equipped the cockpit and prepared the cockpit glass to be installed. For this I dressed the insides of the glass with custom made dcecals. The decals were essentially made by spraying Tamiya primer, first grey, then white on decal paper, then cutting out the shapes and applying them to the insides of the glass. Here's how it looks like:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I'm going to install the glass, and fill and sand everything...

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:48 PM

Oh My! pawel!

    I do hope you've figured a way to display all that work inside. A removeable panel maybe? That's to beautiful to hide!

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, October 1, 2023 4:53 AM

Hello TB, thanks a lot for your comment!

I acknowledge that some of the interior won't be visible, but in order not to hide it completely I started with a major surgery to replace the original cabin windows and I opened up the side door to let some light in.

I have installed the cockpit glass and that gives me some hope:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I'll mask the glass and we'll see the end results after I take the masks off again...

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:47 PM

Hello everybody!

This build is going SLOOW even for my standards... But anyway I have an update here. I finished building the engines, thinned the trailing edge of the wings and had to do some rescribing, and then I tried to put everything together. Here's how my model looks right now:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I'm working on mounting the details that stand a chance of surviving the painting and I hope to paint everything white - Tamiya Spray primer is planned for that.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, March 24, 2024 4:58 PM

Hello everybody!

Another small update - here are some photos showing the first passes with the gray Tamiya primer and some antennae made out of copper and guitar string. Those antennae are anchored in a hole drilled in the hull, to give them a chance to with stand painting:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Then I sprayed some white Tamiya primer. Now my main white coat looks like this:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I'm working on painting the propellers and painting the tail red - I'm looking for a shade of red to match the Caracal decals, the painted and decaled areas have to have a smooth, preferably invisible transition.

Thanks for looking, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Est.1961 on Sunday, March 24, 2024 5:37 PM

Hi pawel, Only catching this one now, interesting change to the usual aircraft that we see (that I love by the way). Glad you reconcidered closing up your detailed interior completely.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, March 25, 2024 4:02 PM

Hello Est. 1961!

Thanks a lot for your comment, as you see I don't get too many of them here! I hope to wrap this one up soon, it's going on for too long already... Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Monday, March 25, 2024 6:57 PM

Pawel, I know the end results will be worth it.  Such a weird and wonderful aircraft!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, March 25, 2024 10:17 PM

I admire your Stamina, Pawel!  It looks like it is coming together pretty well, and that's not always easy with an Amodel kit.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by lurch on Wednesday, March 27, 2024 5:39 AM

That's looking great. I realy like the body style of that bird. 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Friday, March 29, 2024 4:19 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your comments, I didn't have so many of them in this thread since I don't know when!

Real G - Let's hope so!

John - well I'm doing my best! An unfinished build tends to bother me you know...

lurch - it's really something special, isn't it?

And I also have an important update today! After I painted the posterior of it red I removed the masks and some of them have been sitting there for five years, so I was a little afraid what is going to happen when I take them off... See for yourself in the photos below:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Thankfully not so bad!

I have also worked on the propellers. We have two five bladed props here and the Caracal sheet curiously only has six double stripes, so I decided to paint my propellers as opposed to using decals. Here are the results:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I have to get some man up pills and do the red stripes and door and window frames... Let's keep the fingers crossed! Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Est.1961 on Saturday, March 30, 2024 3:31 AM

5 years! I only have to leave masking tape on for couple of days when painting a room in the house to spend another day trying to scrape it off.

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    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, March 30, 2024 6:38 AM

Yeah, it's like advertising for Tamiya masking tape, eh?

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, April 9, 2024 4:34 PM

Hello everybody!

Another update here - I managed to put on the front window outlines and the "stripes". My decal solution (Solvaset) "fringed" the decals a little. Like I suspected I managed to break the upper antenna, but I already repaired it (but after shooting the photos). I have built the main landing gear, the front wheel is still to be done. Here's how my baby looks right now:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, April 10, 2024 12:20 AM

Looks nice, Pawel.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, April 10, 2024 2:47 PM

Thanks a lot John!

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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