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1:72 Piaggio P.180 Avanti Polish Air Ambulance - Finished Page 2!

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  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, April 10, 2024 2:59 PM

Coming along nicely!  I've been looking at this kit.  Twin engine canard pusher - pretty neat.

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:53 AM

Pawel!

     Now that is one beautiful job.That is one weird looking a/c. I wonder how she flies? As a retired private pilot my curiosity is there. I always wonder how the new designs respond to pilot input. I know a lot are "Fly by wire" today, But? 

    Those windows allow more viewing than I thought they would.

  • Member since
    May 2011
  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Saturday, April 13, 2024 12:15 PM

TB,

I read that when FBW (fly by wire) was introduced in the 1970s a lot of pilots hated it.  The reason was that the engineers thought that by placing strain gauges on the stick, the stick no longer had to move.  See, that's what happens when engineers are allowed too much unsupervised play time.

So the solution was to allow the stick to move a bit, and artificial "feel" gave pilots physical feedback on control surface loads.  

I believe Airbus and GD's F-16 were the first mass production planes to incorporate FBW.

Pawel, your Avanti is coming along nicely!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, April 13, 2024 3:14 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

John - I read it's more correct to call this one "tandem wing" and not canard. More about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandem_wing

Doc - thanks a lot for your kind words! I don't have any experience with this aircraft, other than I used to see it (and hear it - it's got an unique sound) out of my window, approaching the runway in Poznań. But if you look it up on youtube, it gets very good reviews from pilots flying it. People also say it's got a performance of a jet at at an operating cost of a turboprop. That sounds good to me.

Real G - thanks a lot. I don't think this Piaggio is fly by wire. This is a funny machine that also has deceiving looks, for example it looks like it's a composite aircraft, but it's made of aluminium. The italians like good looking machines but in this case, to my knowledge, they didn't sacrifice anything for looks - I hear this is a very carefully designed aircraft.

Thanks for reading and I'll try to post an update soon! Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, April 13, 2024 3:27 PM

For some reason I think catfish when I look at that plane.

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Friday, April 19, 2024 3:54 PM

Hello!

John - must be the whiskers...

And I have another update for you all... I feel a lot of relief, the decals are on. Not without problems, but could be worse... I'm happy about how the painted colour matched the decalled colour. I used Gunze H13 with a hint of Gunze H2 mixed in:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Now I'm working on various doors. The main gear doors have hinges made out of wire, and the cabin doors still need a lot of work on the interior, they have this large lever for opening and closing them, mounted ona pretty convoluted-looking panel on the inside.

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, April 19, 2024 10:49 PM

Well done, Pawel.  I think the jury is still out on what to call a three surface airplane.  Triplane sure doesn't sound right, but a little research says all three surfaces do provide lift on this one.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
    February 2011
Posted by knox on Sunday, April 21, 2024 12:00 PM

Your plane looks fantastic!  You certainly have modeling skills.  I'm sorry I don't post more, but the pop-ups are getting too obnoxious to ignore.  Seeing your work is worth it. Thanks for posting. 
                                          knox 

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, April 28, 2024 6:21 PM

Hello! Thanks a lot for your comments!

John - naming conventions aside I heard this design is very well thought out and performs great, which I think is very cool in the end.

knox - thank you very much for your kind words! Our forums here somehow are getting less friendly and harder to work with with time, not a good sign and no wonder people are posting less.

And I've got another update for you, and I think this will be the last one before that little ambulance is complete! I've been working on the cabin door:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

That macro sure is ruthless...

I have also done the lights: On the wingtips:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

And on the tip of the vertical stabilizer, top of the fuselage (red) and bottom of the fuselage (white):

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

I guess now it's time to put it all together... Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, April 30, 2024 7:44 AM

Hi Pawel!

    The more I look at this ,the more I am falling for it.Gosh, I wish I could still fly, I would love to get a trip behind the controls of this one! You are doing a beautiful job!

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, April 30, 2024 2:03 PM

Hello TB, thanks a lot for your kind words, I'm glad you like it!

Yeah, I heard that his machine flies great!

And today is a great day - I'm done building here and here are the finished photos:

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

1:72 A-model Piaggio Avanti by Pawel

I hope you like them - thanks for looking and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    July 2008
Posted by Est.1961 on Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:43 AM

Yes a beautiful job Pawel, It will certainly stand out and be an eye catcher when when displayed alongside other aircraft. The pictures are pretty sharp too.

Joe

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